Tavon Austin Realistic Expectations

Roadtrip635

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We've all seen his highlights and his speed in undeniable, but why hasn't he been more productive at the NFL level? It's easy to dismiss that he wasn't used properly, the Ram's previous regime wasn't very good and he's had bad to mediocre QBs, and that's partly true. Why would McVay be willing to lose a player with that type ability for a mere 6th rd pick? Some just dismiss it as his injury put him behind in the off season and TC and when he was finally healthy, didn't want to mess with team chemistry. That may be partly true, but why would he want to get rid of him if he's truly as electric as many think he can be? I'm sure he's watched every single snap Tavon had as a Ram, so what did he see?

It's ironic that the Rams signed Lance Dunbar, in effect, to take over many of Austin's duties on offense and we look at Austin to fill the once Dunbar duties for us. Austin was beat out by rookie WR Kupp (4.6/40yd) and Kupp while he flashed at some points was also among league leaders in drops and struggled during stretches of the season. Austin lost his PR duties, due to reoccurring fumbling issues, to another rookie P. Cooper (4.6/40yd) who went on to the Pro Bowl. Watkins and Woods both missed games with injuries and yet Austin did not make an impact during their absences.

I've tried looking for some answers. First, Austin has average to below average hands, he's been among league leaders in drops. Some of it is his size, small hands and some is technique, let's the ball get into his body. He is not a great route runner and does struggle to get separation which sounds crazy with his speed, but with the exception of Go routes etc., routes are not run at top speed. Again some of his route running issues are not truly his own fault, much is because of his size. He struggles to get off the line against press coverage and gets bumped and bodied off routes across the field because of his small frame. He's a small target, smaller catch radius and will get bullied and bodied on passes. Here's some dubious stats

Austin is the first WR in NFL history to catch at least 13 passes and not get at least 50yds. (2017) His longest catch went for just 13 yards, while he had three go for negative yardage.

Since 2000, among 249 WRs with at least 200 career targets, Austin ranks dead last yds/ target average. 249th out of 249 is not very dynamic or electric.

These stats from 2016. Case Keenum and Jared Goff averaged a passer rating of 56.1 when targeting Tavon Austin. When targeting all other Rams receivers, they averaged a passer rating of 75.1.

Kenny Britt saw only 8 more targets than Austin, but totaled 493 more yards, 2 more touchdowns, and 5 fewer dropped passes. Keenum and Goff combined to average a passer rating of 96.2 when targeting Britt. Yes, the legendary Kenny Britt.

Among all 89 wide receivers with at least 50 targets, Austin ranked worst in yards per target average, 2nd worst in WR rating (passer rating when targeted), 8th worst in drop rate (percentage of catchable targets dropped), and 14th worst in yards per route run.

Talking with several Rams fans, all like Austin and want him to do well, the guy is likable and a team player. One frustration many expressed, apart from what's been mentioned, is his habit of dancing around or running backwards trying to make something happen and instead getting negative yards or giving up yards he had gained.

Austin is a good runner with the ball. Among all players with at least 125 carries since 2013, Austin leads in yards per carry average (6.7). Many of those rushes are of the sweeps, reverses, etc. variety. He can be a great gadget player and there can be creative ways to get him the ball, but he does have his limitations. He's a slightly better Lucky Whitehead, with better name recognition.

It will be up to Linehan to be creative, but hopefully won't force the issue hoping to make it work. Hopefully we'll see Linehan get out of some of his comfort zone, maybe some bunch formations, having both Zeke and Tavon in the back field together at times, etc. I'm not trying to say Tavon sucks, but there are more reasons than just a bad Ram's team to explain why Tavon hasn't had more success in the NFL. You have to look past the speed and look at the total package and what he brings and doesn't bring to the table.. It's worth the risk for a 6th rd pick, just be realistic about the expectations.
 

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I think we're already seeing unrealistic expectations here. If he does a decent job returning kicks, and knocks off the fumbles, I'll take it. If he becomes a legitimate weapon on offense I'll be pleasantly surprised.
 

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We've all seen his highlights and his speed in undeniable, but why hasn't he been more productive at the NFL level? It's easy to dismiss that he wasn't used properly, the Ram's previous regime wasn't very good and he's had bad to mediocre QBs, and that's partly true. Why would McVay be willing to lose a player with that type ability for a mere 6th rd pick? Some just dismiss it as his injury put him behind in the off season and TC and when he was finally healthy, didn't want to mess with team chemistry. That may be partly true, but why would he want to get rid of him if he's truly as electric as many think he can be? I'm sure he's watched every single snap Tavon had as a Ram, so what did he see?

It's ironic that the Rams signed Lance Dunbar, in effect, to take over many of Austin's duties on offense and we look at Austin to fill the once Dunbar duties for us. Austin was beat out by rookie WR Kupp (4.6/40yd) and Kupp while he flashed at some points was also among league leaders in drops and struggled during stretches of the season. Austin lost his PR duties, due to reoccurring fumbling issues, to another rookie P. Cooper (4.6/40yd) who went on to the Pro Bowl. Watkins and Woods both missed games with injuries and yet Austin did not make an impact during their absences.

I've tried looking for some answers. First, Austin has average to below average hands, he's been among league leaders in drops. Some of it is his size, small hands and some is technique, let's the ball get into his body. He is not a great route runner and does struggle to get separation which sounds crazy with his speed, but with the exception of Go routes etc., routes are not run at top speed. Again some of his route running issues are not truly his own fault, much is because of his size. He struggles to get off the line against press coverage and gets bumped and bodied off routes across the field because of his small frame. He's a small target, smaller catch radius and will get bullied and bodied on passes. Here's some dubious stats

Austin is the first WR in NFL history to catch at least 13 passes and not get at least 50yds. (2017) His longest catch went for just 13 yards, while he had three go for negative yardage.

Since 2000, among 249 WRs with at least 200 career targets, Austin ranks dead last yds/ target average. 249th out of 249 is not very dynamic or electric.

These stats from 2016. Case Keenum and Jared Goff averaged a passer rating of 56.1 when targeting Tavon Austin. When targeting all other Rams receivers, they averaged a passer rating of 75.1.

Kenny Britt saw only 8 more targets than Austin, but totaled 493 more yards, 2 more touchdowns, and 5 fewer dropped passes. Keenum and Goff combined to average a passer rating of 96.2 when targeting Britt. Yes, the legendary Kenny Britt.

Among all 89 wide receivers with at least 50 targets, Austin ranked worst in yards per target average, 2nd worst in WR rating (passer rating when targeted), 8th worst in drop rate (percentage of catchable targets dropped), and 14th worst in yards per route run.

Talking with several Rams fans, all like Austin and want him to do well, the guy is likable and a team player. One frustration many expressed, apart from what's been mentioned, is his habit of dancing around or running backwards trying to make something happen and instead getting negative yards or giving up yards he had gained.

Austin is a good runner with the ball. Among all players with at least 125 carries since 2013, Austin leads in yards per carry average (6.7). Many of those rushes are of the sweeps, reverses, etc. variety. He can be a great gadget player and there can be creative ways to get him the ball, but he does have his limitations. He's a slightly better Lucky Whitehead, with better name recognition.

It will be up to Linehan to be creative, but hopefully won't force the issue hoping to make it work. Hopefully we'll see Linehan get out of some of his comfort zone, maybe some bunch formations, having both Zeke and Tavon in the back field together at times, etc. I'm not trying to say Tavon sucks, but there are more reasons than just a bad Ram's team to explain why Tavon hasn't had more success in the NFL. You have to look past the speed and look at the total package and what he brings and doesn't bring to the table.. It's worth the risk for a 6th rd pick, just be realistic about the expectations.

I think we're already seeing unrealistic expectations here. If he does a decent job returning kicks, and knocks off the fumbles, I'll take it. If he becomes a legitimate weapon on offense I'll be pleasantly surprised.

My wife says expectations are "pre-meditated resentments". She be smart too. We be smart to listen :oldcouple::muttley:
 

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I know why they let him go. LA owes JJ for stepping in & getting the rest of the owners to agree to the move. Yeah, that's the ticket.
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It is strange that someone of his skill set hasn't been successful there has to be a way that Linehan gets the right plays for him and I hate saying it but this is largely on Dak's shoulders to click with him and get the right combination of plays for him too. He will never be a Desean Jackson or a Darren Sproles, he might have been at one time thought as a guy who would consistently get over 1000 yards receiving but he would be very fortunate to get around 500 yards now and a little running too. I think his main role is to help the receivers get free by confusing defenses a little-nothing more than that really.
 

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35 catches 565 yards 6 tds
45 rushes 335 yards 1 TD
30 kick returns for 25 yards per and 2 TDs
20 punt returns for 300 yards, losses job after 5th fumble
 

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I'm sorry, I just don't believe in the necessity to raise any man's IQ three points to classify him as sedimentary rock.
 

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35 catches 565 yards 6 tds
45 rushes 335 yards 1 TD
30 kick returns for 25 yards per and 2 TDs
20 punt returns for 300 yards, losses job after 5th fumble

Having a 15 yard average on punts is actually respectable.
 

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Sometimes a fresh start can make an immense difference....hes not going to be the answer to our prayers but I'll bet he fits nicely
 

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I think we're already seeing unrealistic expectations here. If he does a decent job returning kicks, and knocks off the fumbles, I'll take it. If he becomes a legitimate weapon on offense I'll be pleasantly surprised.

This.
 

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They need to have him moving before the snap to avoid getting jammed and get the ball in his hands up the field to avoid the losses. Sounds like a perfect candidate for crossing patterns.
 

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Nothing against anyone here, because I love this place, but we also have a way of taking a player who will barely even get snaps and write a 10 page thread over them. I’ve seen people writing deep detailed discussions over forth string rbs, and the player leaves without out seeing the field. Expectations get way out of hand.
 

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Look at how this coaching staff treats new players and players with his skill set and I think you'll have an answer.

I think he'll get a target or two and a misdirection play his direction a time or two per game. I think it'll look something like Dwyane Harris and Lucky Whitehead to start. I could see them getting more creative and working him in more with what some of Dunbar used to do his 4 healthy games each year, but not until after he "builds trust".

What exactly it means to build trust with this coaching staff is nebulous at best but if you don't have it they simply won't use you on gameday. It's hard to pin down though because you've got the big play Butler barely seeing the field and then Dez Bryant dropping one crucial pass per game, for example. People with inconsistent trust boundaries are perplexing and irritating to me.

Unfortunately for Austin he has fumble concerns and negative yardage concerns, and unless he gets the mysteriously applied exception, those are two things which this coaching staff does not tolerate. So I wouldn't be surprised to see him get less than 50 opportunities this season if he irks them early.
 

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Having a 15 yard average on punts is actually respectable.
Only once in Austin's 5 year career did he average more yards/punt return than Switzer did last year, but he also had 1TD and 5 fumbles that year too.
 

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35 catches 565 yards 6 tds
45 rushes 335 yards 1 TD
30 kick returns for 25 yards per and 2 TDs
20 punt returns for 300 yards, losses job after 5th fumble

He’s suddenly going to average 16.1 yards/reception after going 8.7 his first 5 seasons?
 
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