Demarcus Lawrence wants a 5 year extension

[aria]

The man has shown the ability to rush the passer and be a beast at it. I have no clue what the future holds, but I do know I don’t want to sit through more seasons searching for someone who can perform like DLaw did last year because I am more worried about cap space and injury. Some people on the team need to get paid and I am fine risking salary cap space on a person with the ability to wreak havoc on the quarterback.

They don’t have to search, just pay him more for being much more sure of exactly what they’re getting. At this point it’s much more of gamble. How many times do we have to have sign bad contracts due to taking big and unnecessary risks?

 

[Melonfeud]

Have no problem with a different opinion, nor do I expect everyone to agree with mine.

Then,,,shucks!,,, I reckon that's 'like' worthy in itself fer' yer' original 'fuzz up' of a post then,,,,stand-by!

 

[Cowboys22]

Like singers, you have the ones that can keep producing hits after hits, then you have a group like " The Outfield " who has there one hit which I love by the way, but cant duplicate that hit again and are called one hit wonders.

I wouldn’t call them one hit wonders. One album wonders, yes. That entire album from start to finish is good. There was no FFing to skip songs when you put that tape in the boombox.

 

[Aviano90]

They don’t have to search, just pay him more for being much more sure of exactly what they’re getting. At this point it’s much more of gamble. How many times do we have to have sign bad contracts due to taking big and unnecessary risks?

We are already taking a risk giving him the franchise tag. The only way we “win” in the deal is if his performance falls of the cliff or he has a significant injury which would make future production come into question and at that point you have simply wasted $17 million for that to happen.

Otherwise you are faced with the same decision, with the same risks next year but for a larger price tag and none of the $17 million for this year applies to the guarantees to a long term contract.

That’s why I say go long term now or move on.

 

[Cowboys22]

We are already taking a risk giving him the franchise tag. The only way we “win” in the deal is if his performance falls of the cliff or he has a significant injury which would make future production come into question and at that point you have simply wasted $17 million for that to happen.

Otherwise you are faced with the same decision, with the same risks next year but for a larger price tag and none of the $17 million for this year applies to the guarantees to a long term contract.

That’s why I say go long term now or move on.

More like you spent $17 million to make sure you don’t blow $80 million.

 

[Aviano90]

More like you spent $17 million to make sure you don’t blow $80 million.

That’s another way to look at it. Either way, $17 million would be down the drain and the team is still faced with a decision to sign long term or let go.

 

[CWR]

No, I a am not that confident. I am not confident any player will remain injury free, but I don’t obsess about the risk of injury. If the team hasn’t seen enough to invest long term at this point, then save the $17 million and move on from him hoping Taco, Gregory and Irving can do the trick. But I don’t want him to prove it, increase his asking price to $20 million, and have the same decision next year when the risk of injury will still be there.

It could go either way and theres a greater history of mediocrity than elite play so it makes absolute sense to make him prove it. No need to draw a line in the sand, we can hope he does well and pay him well if so. But they are clearly hedging thier bets. Based on his history theres a better chance hes not going to be as productive this year and will hurt his value in the process. Id like to think hes coming into his own and will dominate, but Im not the one investing in him.

 

[Kaiser]

It depends what he’s looking for. Does he want top-five DE money? Or top-two DE money?

IMO its about the structure, I would give him a solid but not huge amount of guaranteed money and then build in the incentives that can pay him elite money for elite performance. He gets financial security for life and the Cowboys get protection from the downside.

 

[aria]

We are already taking a risk giving him the franchise tag. The only way we “win” in the deal is if his performance falls of the cliff or he has a significant injury which would make future production come into question and at that point you have simply wasted $17 million for that to happen.

Otherwise you are faced with the same decision, with the same risks next year but for a larger price tag and none of the $17 million for this year applies to the guarantees to a long term contract.

That’s why I say go long term now or move on.

I agree with the same risk of injury but I think the risk of him not performing up to last years standards over the next 5 years is significantly less if we see him do it two years in a row. Right now, it’s literally a coin flip, or actually it’s worse...he’s been a major factor ONE year!

If we signed everyone who had one good year to an extended or long term contract we would be losing which is exactly why we have been losing. Anyways, either way, let’s hope he stays injury free and tears it up just the same or moreso than last year. If he works out I won’t care that we spent the franchise tag on him, it’s a form of insurance and I’m ok with paying it.

 

[LocimusPrime]

1 million per sack. That's a good incentive

2 million per interception and 3 million for a sack safety.

Sweeet

 

[Nightman]

We are already taking a risk giving him the franchise tag. The only way we “win” in the deal is if his performance falls of the cliff or he has a significant injury which would make future production come into question and at that point you have simply wasted $17 million for that to happen.

Otherwise you are faced with the same decision, with the same risks next year but for a larger price tag and none of the $17 million for this year applies to the guarantees to a long term contract.

That’s why I say go long term now or move on.

Exactly.......you are hoping for failure or 20m becomes his salary floor

Worst case he has a 10 sack season...... then what?

If you tag him twice his cap hits are 17m and 20m
If you extend him for 5 years it is 5m and 13m
If you rollover the 12m in cap savings his 2019 cap hit is nearly erased

It becomes 5m in 2018 and 1m in 2019.........that is insane value compared to 37m with the Franchise Tag....... there is no risk at all

Worst case get insurance for 500k for a 10m policy which you get back against the cap if he gets hurt

 

[cern]

Not likely any of us are privy to the reasons for the cowboy's hesitancy in signing him.Just like Zack. The dollar amount is easy to conclude. The difficult part is guaranteed money, signing bonuses, etc. But it's to our advantage to have him signed, sealed and delivered.

 

[CWR]

That’s another way to look at it. Either way, $17 million would be down the drain and the team is still faced with a decision to sign long term or let go.

He was either going to make that 17 million or get a contract in the neighborhood. Say his contract avg 14 mil for example we are out the extra three. I realize you can prorate and manipulate but either way theres still an average.

 

[8FOR!3]

I'd say he's a guy where you've got to figure out how he's on the team in the future. Make the contract as good for us as you can but at the end of the day you've got to sign him regardless.

 

[diefree666]

If he duplicates this season's production he is not going to get that much more then if we were to sign him now. By waiting a year we can have more evidence he is not a one year wonder.

and outside of some truly great ones like Ware how many pass rushers stack up double digit sack years one after the other?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I understand your point, but this isn't a guy that has been dependable and available throughout his 1st 4 years in the league. I would be very hesitant to give a 5 year commitment to a guy like that.

If he was more depenfavle he'd be worth more than what you'd have to pay. I get there is a risk involved but I take it and worry about the potential consequences later. These contracts are too easy to get from under.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

If he duplicates this season's production he is not going to get that much more then if we were to sign him now. By waiting a year we can have more evidence he is not a one year wonder.

and outside of some truly great ones like Ware how many pass rushers stack up double digit sack years one after the other?

You wait a year and give him a five year deal he may not play well enough to warrant that deal by the end of it.

 

[OmerV]

If he was more depenfavle he'd be worth more than what you'd have to pay. I get there is a risk involved but I take it and worry about the potential consequences later. These contracts are too easy to get from under.

Do we know this? Do we know what he is willing to take for a 5 year deal? He may be thinking about an annual salary along the lines of what he would get with the franchise tag this year, and if so, that wouldn't constitute any kind of discount at all for his lack of dependability the last 4 years.

As for the idea of worrying about consequences later and thinking contracts are easy to get out from under, that's the thinking that causes teams to get into a major problem with the salary cap. A responsible team can't afford to think that way.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Jerry is only handing out big contracts to The Oline.

 

[CyberB0b]

Nope. I’d franchise him 1 more year and let him walk.