Video: Why Dak Prescott is Actually the Most Accurate QB in the NFL | NFL Network

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It’s either a dislike/resistance for/against the new breed of QB that plays against the conventional, drop back, pocket passer, OR it’s that other thing that we don’t need to get into.

My ideal QB or whoever it was after Romo would be a taller Russell Wilson, which is what Dak pretty much is. Just because I don't like the fact that he regressed in his 2nd year or that I'm concerned with how little or how much he improves in 2018 doesn't mean I'm a Dak hater. And him being half black clearly has no influence of my opinion. I'm sorry I won't settle for less, if Dak doesn't improve then I'll say he needs to go because we can afford to pay someone else as little for decent results with the solid team he has. If he improves then that's great for us, the team, and the chance at winning a ring with this young team. I do not want to pay 20+ mil for a QB who RIGHT NOW struggles to pass and read from the pocket. I'm all for drafting a new qb every 5 years in the 1st round if they're bus driver capable with a solid supporting cast rather than overpaying one position because the rest of the league is doing so.
 

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Again, I'll go with the big boy numbers.

63% completion in his "down year" and 65% over his two year career this far. Numbers based on 950 passes. And I'll let smaller minds argue over minutiae of a few passes here and there.

And while you're trying to pat yourself on the back, where does the number "17 picks alone" come from anyway?
The little minds forget the little things even when we're winning. You can pretend Dak did great his 2nd year and had no underlying issues from his rookie year. In 2018 I'll judge again based on what I see, whether he improves or not. If he improves, great, if not then I expect you to roll out more of these stats to make yourself feel better about your big mind.
 

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If Dak sucks, I am screwed with my username.

Poor planning on my part.

I think too many jobs depend on them doing everything coachwise possible..

Its not just Garrets job on the line..The Coaching changes, and the players brought in and drafted for competition should scream that..My only fear is Linehan...I will say this the coaches on offense (Alexander and Lal are studs..They are going to get that work *players, one way or another..) We see..
 

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The little minds forget the little things even when we're winning. You can pretend Dak did great his 2nd year and had no underlying issues from his rookie year. In 2018 I'll judge again based on what I see, whether he improves or not. If he improves, great, if not then I expect you to roll out more of these stats to make yourself feel better about your big mind.

Where does "17 picks" come from?
 

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This says more about the WRs, scheme, and playcalling than Dak. When no one can get any kind of separation downfield, you have to throw into tight windows. The video shows what I consider great catches, not really great throws. Some were good passes but not all. To me this is a made up unimportant stat that means nothing without team success. Not putting Dak down at all. I just don’t see this as proof of anything other than someone is getting paid to come up with new stats. Dak has shown enough to be excited for the future but has also shown he has a long way to go with accuracy and consistency.
 

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Im glad you brought that up..Maybe you dont remember the atmosphere in the draft that year or what Greene was coming out of college..It was a third round pick..Green was a reach at three, was injury prone in college..It was a risk pick at three..I dont believe that Will would have mis-evaluated him, i think it was a pick they might have set aside for a later pick...Especially with the needs at Rb that year...Stephen made the risk call..Its classic Jerry risk maneuvering...Frank took the hickey on it, But no question that was a Stephen move..One more thing, Anybody should have been able to see that Green did not win the lg job in training camp. COOPER was superior then..Its simple Stephen was pushing to start Green coz Roi...

So do you credit Stephen or Jerry for picking Prescott or does the credit belong to McClay and Garrett?
 

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Dak had a HORRIBLE stretch of games in 2018, which drug his overall year down into mediocrity. Combined with 2016, though...

No one thinks he’s the best, just in the upper half, ESPECIALLY for QBs in their first two years. As Cowherd illustrates, four important stats PROVE he doesn’t get the same praise as guys like Flacco or Scam Newton.

Would I rather have Brady or Rodgers or Brees? Of course. Who wouldn’t? But if Brad Johnson, Joe Flacco, Trent Dilfer, Jim McMahon, Doug Williams and several others can win, Dak sure can.

I don't disagree with this. I just disagree with any article that puts him fifth among quarterbacks last year. The second half of his season, again for a variety of reasons, knocked down to the middle of the pack.

Now some of those reasons should be gone and we should see if he can get back closer to that 2016 level.

Also, those winning QBs you mentioned, Johnson, Flacco, Dilfer, McMahon ... all won because they had something we've rarely established in Dallas since the early 1990s — a dominant defense. Our quarterbacks may always have to be better than that level of QB as long as Garrett is coach.
 

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So do you credit Stephen or Jerry for picking Prescott or does the credit belong to McClay and Garrett?

Well historically Linehan and Garrett have had the biggest input in the Offensive picks..McClay brings them the meat but they all evaluate..I know that they had Dak at the senior bowl so both of them had input..I dont really rate a individual person on that pick, i rate Garrett and staff with the ability to get what they did out of a 4th in 2016...Dak wasnt a reach..

If you look at the risk picks over the last 5-8 years its pretty easy to see who pulled the trigger..I realize Stephen was allegedly the focus of bringing a better oline to the party, but Callahan most likely the genesis of that, alibi causing the rift between him and Garret...To answer the real question you are not asking i dont have proof of this..Its experience with how they draft and some of the things Stephen does to hide some of his errors in drafting, personnel decisions, and Jerrys philosophy on risk!
 

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I don't disagree with this. I just disagree with any article that puts him fifth among quarterbacks last year. The second half of his season, again for a variety of reasons, knocked down to the middle of the pack.

Now some of those reasons should be gone and we should see if he can get back closer to that 2016 level.

Also, those winning QBs you mentioned, Johnson, Flacco, Dilfer, McMahon ... all won because they had something we've rarely established in Dallas since the early 1990s — a dominant defense. Our quarterbacks may always have to be better than that level of QB as long as Garrett is coach.

Woah i say woah...Defensively the reasons for the defense being the whipping boy are way more than Garrett..This fallacy is a shallow opinion!
 

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I think overall the Cowboys have drafted well over Garretts time as the head coach, the issues ovet the last five years are the reaches, the lack of a backup qb, the extremely bad pick on Green, followed by not making him earn the job thru competition..Yada..

Now if the Cowboys get dinged in the running game coz no true one tech this year, Stephen taking the blame as well..He already owned that one...Stupidly i might add, and half the base will blame Marinelli on that....Still!!
 

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Lol

So I guess all those throws behind receivers, at their feet, and over their heads is just a figment of our imaginations.

Good gosh.
1) If the ball hits their feet they should be able to catch it. lol.
2) The receiver is running the route too fast. lol.
3) It's Garrett's fault.
 

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Well historically Linehan and Garrett have had the biggest input in the Offensive picks..McClay brings them the meat but they all evaluate..I know that they had Dak at the senior bowl so both of them had input..I dont really rate a individual person on that pick, i rate Garrett and staff with the ability to get what they did out of a 4th in 2016...Dak wasnt a reach..

If you look at the risk picks over the last 5-8 years its pretty easy to see who pulled the trigger..I realize Stephen was allegedly the focus of bringing a better oline to the party, but Callahan most likely the genesis of that, alibi causing the rift between him and Garret...To answer the real question you are not asking i dont have proof of this..Its experience with how they draft and some of the things Stephen does to hide some of his errors in drafting, personnel decisions, and Jerrys philosophy on risk!

So you give Linehan, Garrett and even McClay some credit for Dak, but Stephen the blame for Green.

Truth is that all of them, and Jerry have input. The Joneses are the ones who pull the trigger, but the coaches and the scouts are telling them where to aim. Now, Jerry has bucked that advice in the past, but not as often as fans want to believe since they often blame him for later-round picks where he likely didn't even know the name of the player before being told by McClay.
 

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Here's an article that has Dak ranked as the 5th best QB in the NFL, just below Tom Brady, Matt Ryan, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers.

**These rankings are based exclusively on what each quarterback did from September 2017 to February 2018. It’s not about previous seasons, skill sets or where the quarterback is in his career at the time. It’s solely about each player’s performance in that single season.**

36 Quarterbacks ranked

  • Tier 1 - Tom Brady, Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers
  • Tier 2 - Dak Prescott, Marcus Mariota, Cam Newton, Phillip Rivers
  • Tier 3 - Alex Smith, Carson Wentz, Tyrod Taylor, Jacoby Brissett, Jared Goff
  • Tier 4 - Mitchell Trubisky, Matthew Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger, Kirk Cousins, Nick Foles, Case Keenum, Russell Wilson, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, Andy Dalton
  • Tier 5 - Jameis Winston, DeShaun Watson, Derek Carr
  • Tier 6 - Blake Bortles, DeShone Kiser
  • Tier 7 - Josh McCown, C.J. Beathard, Trevor Siemian, Jay Cutler, Brian Hoyer, Tom Savage, Joe Flacco, Brett Hundley
Bit on Prescott:

5. Dak Prescott – Tier 2.

Did you know? Only 5.3 percent of Dak Prescott’s attempts were screens, the second-lowest rate in the league.

If you thought Dak Prescott played like a superstar as a rookie but was awful during his second season, you’re likely conflating quarterback evaluation with evaluating the offense as a whole. Everything on the Cowboys offense got significantly worse in 2017. The offensive line got weaker at left guard and right tackle with new players, the center’s performances dropped off and the left tackle was hurt. Jason Witten was even slower at tight end. Dez Bryant spent the season struggling to get open then had a monumental number of drops when he did get open. Ezekiel Elliott was out of shape then out of the league for six weeks through suspension.

Everything was worse except for the quarterback. The quarterback actually got better.

Prescott wasn’t a star during his rookie season. The Cowboys should have gone back to Tony Romo. But he grew in his second season. He was one of the most accurate passers in the league, ranking fourth in the league with a 60.2 depth-adjusted accuracy percentage. That was while throwing to a group of receivers who couldn’t separate and offered limited catch radiuses.

Prescott wasn’t just checking down either. He threw 58.2 percent of his passes further than five yards downfield, the seventh-highest rate in the league. More significantly, he threw the second-highest rate of passes into the 1-20 yard range. 77.2 percent of the Cowboys passing game existed within those parameters. It was the opposite of a short and shot play offense.

Throwing into the 1-20 yard range is tougher to do than throwing the ball short and deep. In the Cowboys offense it meant an over-reliance on isolated routes with straight dropbacks where the quarterback had to manage the pocket. 29 quarterbacks used play action or screens more often than Prescott did. He wasn’t throwing into distorted coverages or making quick throws into the flat that gained big yardage. He was responsible for throwing receivers open and carrying an offense that wasn’t built to work without an all star supporting cast.

It was the same offense that Garrett ran during Prescott’s rookie season, but without the incredible pass protection and dominant running game, and with a worse group of receivers, the quarterback never had a real chance.

What really stood out from Prescott was his acumen. He showed off more command of his offense during his second season. Making successful audibles and adjustments to spring receivers open. That was on the occasions when he had opportunities to do so. Jason Garrett’s refusal to adjust to his personnel or to his opponents meant that Prescott often appeared to be the only one on the Dallas offense who was trying to make the offense function smoother.

Although the numbers weren’t there, Prescott’s precision as a passer, his intelligence as a quarterback and his physical skill set to function inside and outside of structure were obvious. The Cowboys have a lot of problems, the quarterback isn’t one.
Read the whole article: http://presnapreads.com/2018/03/25/...ankings-based-exclusively-on-the-2017-season/
Russell Wilson, Big Ben and Stafford behind Jacoby Brissett and Tyrod Taylor. Yeah, there's a list I'd follow.

And Wilson IS the Seattle offense. And he's 4th tier? lol.
 

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So you give Linehan, Garrett and even McClay some credit for Dak, but Stephen the blame for Green.

Truth is that all of them, and Jerry have input. The Joneses are the ones who pull the trigger, but the coaches and the scouts are telling them where to aim. Now, Jerry has bucked that advice in the past, but not as often as fans want to believe since they often blame him for later-round picks where he likely didn't even know the name of the player before being told by McClay.

You have to consider some things..Jerry loves to be in the perception of the risk taker.. He was suppressed on the martin pick by Stephen and Garrett and it was proven to be the right pick. STEPHEN does the pick if Jerry wants to get outside the box for risks...I smell his work on Jaylon, which i was against, This year we see if that reach pays dividends..

I also smell jerry on Dlaw, Gregory, Dlaw maybe one of the better risks of Jerry but Mcclay was the one who brought him..Mcclay brings the meat, and im sure his opinion highly respected but i dont relate the actual picks to him..Im sure he has politicd numerous times..

STEPHEN to me is a less risky Jerry but he has made some bad moves on his own..The lack of a back up qb he took responsibility in offseason 2016, also you be sure the first moves in FA were to shore up depth in the oline and the eventual release of Green..OVERALL i think Stephen a better buffer for Jerry but his moves are the ones that cost us last year..I realize they didnt anticipate Free retiring, but Leary was a known, and they fumbled!
 

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Russell Wilson, Big Ben and Stafford behind Jacoby Brissett and Tyrod Taylor. Yeah, there's a list I'd follow.

And Wilson IS the Seattle offense. And he's 4th tier? lol.

This tier is funny..I think there are maybe 4 to five elite qbs in the Nfl and thats pushing it, the rest either havent got there or never will..
 

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Completion stats show at minimum that all QB make bad throws and some wildly bad but some are still great QBs.
Farve comes to mind. He could sling some wild dirt balls but reliably got the ball across the goal line.
I read all manner of inaccurate criticism of Dak on the zone but realize that the season is fast approaching
and all this guff will quite down.

Farve, I would agree with just like Romo at one point in his career. Brady, Brees and that nemesis from GB not so much.
 

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If Dak sucks, I am screwed with my username.

Poor planning on my part.

Except for the few times where it is applied to a hands-down greatest player of all time, 99.9% of the time "goat" is a derogatory term for the person to blame for a loss. So you'll be fine.

In fact, when I first saw your name - before reading your posts - I assumed your screen name was a dig against Dak.
 

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I always thought Waving monkey was Jerry Jones incognito,now I'm positive its Dak Prescott!

Here's the reality there WM .....Dak will be remembered as another Jerry Failed venture and by this time next year we will be here posting on our new QB whoever he might end up being......Dak Prescott=Tim Tebow....sorry Tim....no insult intended....
 

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Hes a second year QB pal. And its the legs factor that makes him so good on top of what he can do with his arm. He is a dual threat QB. Try to keep up.

And he doesnt have to worry about playing without Zeke now does he? How good was Aikman without Emmitt? couldnt even win a game. Get a clue bud.

I don't ever buy into that duel threat because it didn't work so well for RG3 did it. Running QB's are NFL (Not for Long) in the NFL. Defenses love
to break them in half. Who knows what will happen to Zeke. He can't stay out of clubs or away from bimbos.
 
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