Dak wasn't that good last night **merged**

[Ken]

16/25 for 160, that's a 64% completion rate and 6.4 yards par pass...which is bad onto it self......one play was for 64...which is good, but that means he was 15/24 for 96 yards.....and a paltry 4 yards per pass attempt.... that's ugly. really ugly... that means that teams don't respect the deep or medium throws and willing to gamble...yes they gave up a 64 TD pass, but that's one play....

one thing that was evident again last night, in the second half TD drive, he was setting his feet and making the throws...they were on target and had zip....then he was ugly footwork again for a lot of the other throws....

What is points out to me is we have guys who catch the ball and get tackled.

Other qbs make the same throws and guys make plays for them.

Who is making plays on this team? Zeke has been horrid out of the backfueld...I watch Gurley catch the same balls and make plays.

This is a huge problem.

Keep blaming the young qb playing his *** off though.

 

[mahoneybill]

He relied on what got him on the Heisman list after his junior season, his legs. However, that will not work every week and they will not play a team as bad as the Giants every week. The Giants might be lining up for a housecleaning at the end of the season and drafting a QB with that top 5 pick.

Dak was more accurate than in his 1st game so that was good to see.

Nice to see him have more time when he did stay in the pocket, and some of his shorter passes were bullets. Shame the Rico throw was off, or Rico didn't get to where Dak thought he would be

 

[Roadtrip635]

If Gallup catches that ball he is out of bounds anyways....so that’s a catchable ball. And if rico makes that catchthat would have been pretty spectacular. Same as last year....and ball dak throwswhere somegets. A finger on the ball is considered catchable..uh,ok.

Funny thing is those guys are paid to make catches. And yes, both of those are catchable balls. Haters talk about Dak not being able to hit guys that are "NFL open", the receivers have to be able to make those catches too. That door swings both ways.

 

[mahoneybill]

What is points out to me is we have guys who catch the ball and get tackled.

Other qbs make the same throws and guys make plays for them.

Who is making plays on this team? Zeke has been horrid out of the backfueld...I watch Gurley catch the same balls and make plays.

This is a huge problem.

Keep blaming the young qb playing his *** off though.

Zeke can make the same type of plays that Gurley does, but to me he is rarely given open space to start with as teams are still stacking the box etc to neutralize him.

He definitely looks quick, and shifty, and will not go down on first contact...

 

[HungryLion]

Dak played better last night. Got the ball from point A to B. Like others have posted, some nice throws were called back.

I think his biggest blunder was missing a wide open Rico in the endzone.

The Rico throw is the one that haunts.

If Dak hits that pass, it would really change some of the optics of his performance.

He needs to hit plays like that, against tougher teams.

 

[Roadtrip635]

What is points out to me is we have guys who catch the ball and get tackled.

Other qbs make the same throws and guys make plays for them.

Who is making plays on this team? Zeke has been horrid out of the backfueld...I watch Gurley catch the same balls and make plays.

This is a huge problem.

Keep blaming the young qb playing his *** off though.

Exactly, other players are getting paid to make plays too.

 

[Jenky]

The Rico throw is the one that haunts.

If Dak hits that pass, it would really change some of the optics of his performance.

He needs to hit plays like that, against tougher teams.

That was a give me that he needs to take advantage of. You don't get many plays where a receiver is that open unless its a pick or mishaps in the secondary.

 

[the_h0wey]

16/25 for 160, that's a 64% completion rate and 6.4 yards par pass...which is bad onto it self......one play was for 64...which is good, but that means he was 15/24 for 96 yards.....and a paltry 4 yards per pass attempt.... that's ugly. really ugly... that means that teams don't respect the deep or medium throws and willing to gamble...yes they gave up a 64 TD pass, but that's one play....

one thing that was evident again last night, in the second half TD drive, he was setting his feet and making the throws...they were on target and had zip....then he was ugly footwork again for a lot of the other throws....

So poorly worded

 

[CT Dal Fan]

In retrospect, Ben Roesthlisberger threw for a million yards yesterday compared to Dak.

But which QB feels better today? The main stat is the W.

 

[Captain-Crash]

C performance against a bad team. Once he gets pressured, we will see the real Dak again.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Yeah, it’s easy to win the sb with a crap qb. 85 bears and 2000 ravens did it.....come on front office, get it done.

2013 - Russell Wilson won the SB, playoffs passing - avg. 174 yards a game, 1 td a game.
2015 - Payton Manning won the SB, playoffs passing - avg. 178 yards a game, 0.67 tds a game. After a regular season with 229 yard a game, 9 tds total in 10 games.

You do not have to be a Brees or Brady to win SBs, stat-wise. Is it common? No, but some here act like it's near-impossible.

Besides, we had 10 years with Romo with the gaudy stats, and got how many SB appearances? Playoff wins?

Nobody's saying Dak is perfect, but some act like he's Brandon Weeden....

 

[kskboys]

He wasn't. However he wasn't all that bad either.

He had a good B+ type performance.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

C performance against a bad team. Once he gets pressured, we will see the real Dak again.

And I'm sure you'll be ecstatic if that happens...

 

[Roadtrip635]

Zeke can make the same type of plays that Gurley does, but to me he is rarely given open space to start with as teams are still stacking the box etc to neutralize him.

He definitely looks quick, and shifty, and will not go down on first contact...

I think some of that is the type of plays called up for Gurley vs Zeke in the passing game. Zeke is rarely the primary target unless it's a screen pass, he's usually relegated to dump off duty. Gurley has more pass plays called as the primary, short flares, flats etc. That is something missing from our playcalling. That's up to the coaches to design and implement. I've been yelling for us to do that more often for awhile. Zeke should be catching 5-6 balls a game not 2-3.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

I think some of that is the type of plays called up for Gurley vs Zeke in the passing game. Zeke is rarely the primary target unless it's a screen pass, he's usually relegated to dump off duty. Gurley has more pass plays called as the primary, short flares, flats etc. That is something missing from our playcalling. That's up to the coaches to design and implement. I've been yelling for us to do that more often for awhile. Zeke should be catching 5-6 balls a game not 2-3.

And getting more than 17 carries...

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

As I said in another thread Dak played well enough and do exactly what he needed to do to get the Cowboys a win when the D was playing lights out. No need for him to force more throws than what was necessary to win a game in which a defense is playing well. He made the big throw at the start for the TD and the Giants couldn't recover from that. Then he made some good throws/runs to keep the drive alive or pick up great yardage.

If it was just on Dak's mind to try to put up big stats in a game the Defense had in hand and he throw an INT which gave the Giants offense life, then this board would be tearing him apart. Yes, there might be games where he'll need to throw for more than 160 and score more than 20 points, but last night wasn't one of them.

 

[TNCowboy]

OP is a *******. Dak missed one really open throw. Most of the rest of the incompletions were just throwing it away.

OL was terrible in pass protection. Probably isn't going to change if they continue to play Collins out of position, and #s are never going to be great with our practice squad receiving corps and jag TEs.

Watch the games instead of reading box scores.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

As I said in another thread Dak played well enough and do exactly what he needed to do to get the Cowboys a win when the D was playing lights out. No need for him to force more throws than what was necessary to win a game in which a defense is playing well. He made the big throw at the start for the TD and the Giants couldn't recover from that. Then he made some good throws/runs to keep the drive alive or pick up great yardage.

If it was just on Dak's mind to try to put up big stats in a game the Defense had in hand and he throw an INT which gave the Giants offense life, then this board would be tearing him apart. Yes, there might be games where he'll need to throw for more than 160 and score more than 20 points, but last night wasn't one of them.

Sort of like the criticism that Aikman got when he got elected to the HOF: "He only threw more than 20 tds once in his career, he only threw for X yards, blah, blah, blah".
But he won 3 SBs, when he needed to chunk the pigskin for 300 yards or 4 tds, he did it. The point is to win games...

 

[Roadtrip635]

The Rico throw is the one that haunts.

If Dak hits that pass, it would really change some of the optics of his performance.

He needs to hit plays like that, against tougher teams.

Every QB, regardless of how good or bad miss easy throws from time to time. Brees missed a horrible one yesterday to Ben Watson. On the 1yd line and the defense bit on the fake and Watson went thru the middle completely alone. Watson is like 6'4" and standing 5 yds directly in front of Brees and overthrows him badly. I mean he needed a ladder to grab that pass, but he could have literally pitched it to him underhand for an easy catch. They settled for a FG and if the Browns had even an average if not the worst kicker in the league, that could have cost them the game.

 

[Roadtrip635]

And getting more than 17 carries...

Amen brother!