News: David Moore: Terrance Williams facing suspension

[JayFord]

Im not a fan of someone getting suspended but if thats the only way to get him off the field then so be it

 

[Stash]

Funny, I just read the FWST article and it hadn't occured to me before but I think you are exactly right. Its not a big stretch of imagination to think Dallas is quietly asking the NFL to suspend him to get out of the guaranteed money.

Its not really fair but if TWill had produced last year or solidified a starting job this year it wouldn't be an issue.

I don't know about the Cowboys "asking" for a suspension, that sounds like a bit of conspiracy theory I'd rather not get into. But I do think that they've played the cards they've been dealt wisely and didn't go the quick-cut spite route that would have cost them a lot of money.

If anything, I'd say that maybe they've deftly waited out the league and this suspension and will act accordingly if and when it comes down. If it does, I expect them to exercise the 'out clause' it gives them.

 

[Stash]

Lol. Then he wrecked his bike. Wasn’t it motorized? That’s a DUI. Didn’t the film show him being cuffed and arrested? Someone paid some money to get that cleaned up. But goodell has the footage that him and mara watch and laugn at. And right now mara is emo cause we beat up on them. They can make this a behavior suspension and go more games than the DUI would bring.

I don’t know if there is a clause in his contract to void guaranteed money if he is arrested. Maybe just lose the game checks he is gone during. If I am JJ I start putting this clause in every contract my players sign.

I think most NFL contracts now contain clauses voiding guaranteed money if a player is suspended and unable to work. If Williams' contract contains one, that's the 'out' the Cowboys have been waiting for.

If nothing else, it's undeniable that he's being phased out and is barely even a factor now.

 

[Redball Express]

I don’t know his stats off the top of my head, but I doubt he’s caught more than 3-4 balls a game... I was ready to trade him and a 3rd for ET during the draft.

Gallup is up.

Makes us understand why Brice was signed.

 

[Redball Express]

Oh, how will his production be replaced?

Brice Butler

 

[glimmerman]

I think most NFL contracts now contain clauses voiding guaranteed money if a player is suspended and unable to work. If Williams' contract contains one, that's the 'out' the Cowboys have been waiting for.

If nothing else, it's undeniable that he's being phased out and is barely even a factor now.

Hope they do. Just haven’t heard anything yet about the clause. I think in the past there hasn’t been the clause and could be the reason you see our players acting a fool. We seem to have more players on our team every year getting suspended than others.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

If nothing else, it's undeniable that he's being phased out and is barely even a factor now.

He was on his way out after this year anyway, regardless of any suspension. 29 years old, salary hit too high. Thompson was signed in the event Williams was suspended, so I have to give kudos to Jerry for that, smart move...

 

[Kaiser]

I don't know about the Cowboys "asking" for a suspension, that sounds like a bit of conspiracy theory I'd rather not get into.

Sure, I'm not saying they picked up the phone and asked directly. But everyone is in communication on this stuff and there are plenty of ways to signal the team isn't going to fight it. And plenty of wink and nod ways to signal they wouldn't consider it a bad thing.

Jerry was in contact with the NFL all the time on the Zeke suspension and had been told there would be no punishment. When it happened he threatened to sue the league and then fought Goodell tooth and nail on his contract.

When it was Zeke, Jerry literally took money out of Goodell's pocket. With TWill Jerry signed his replacement ahead of time and you heard a bunch of rumors in the media that likely came directly from the Dallas front office.

 

[glimmerman]

Makes us understand why Brice was signed.

Yeah and after what all he said. Or at least the way he said it.

The way the Dez situation went down, if Butler kept his mouth shut he would have gotten everything he wanted.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Sure, I'm not saying they picked up the phone and asked directly. But everyone is in communication on this stuff and there are plenty of ways to signal the team isn't going to fight it. And plenty of wink and nod ways to signal they wouldn't consider it a bad thing.

Jerry was in contact with the NFL all the time on the Zeke suspension and had been told there would be no punishment. When it happened he threatened to sue the league and then fought Goodell tooth and nail on his contract.

When it was Zeke, Jerry literally took money out of Goodell's pocket. With TWill Jerry signed his replacement ahead of time and you heard a bunch of rumors in the media that likely came directly from the Dallas front office.

So people really believe Goodell would do Jerry a favor and suspend Williams so Jerry could save the money?

Since when does Goodell help the Cowboys AT ALL....

 

[AmishCowboy]

What is with the facination with the NYG. Williams was intoxicated in public. Goes against the NFL rules of conduct. If a Giant had done this he would be suspended also.

Hardly, Eli committed Fraud and nothing happened

 

[Kaiser]

So people really believe Goodell would do Jerry a favor and suspend Williams so Jerry could save the money?

Goodell is a joke and isn't involved in minor suspensions. The NFL is an old boys club at the end of the day and people working for each side work several levels below Jerry and Goodell.

And BTW, when Jerry and Goodell went to war over Zeke - Goodell won the suspension battle but Jerry won the war.

 

[texbumthelife]

McCoy gets a pass and a guy like Mychal Kendricks pleaded guilty to a felony and hasn’t been suspended yet.

It's absurd and no one with clout will stand up and say/do anything about it.

 

[Pantone282C]

For the time that he is suspended. But I thought that the suspension basically canceled the guaranteed aspect of his contract, and let us cut him without having to pay his salary for the rest of the year.

I think you are correct on that. They have a morals clause in contracts that adds to the power of not paying the guaranteed contract after being cut. NBA and MLB are quite different.

 

[Nightman]

I think most NFL contracts now contain clauses voiding guaranteed money if a player is suspended and unable to work. If Williams' contract contains one, that's the 'out' the Cowboys have been waiting for.

If nothing else, it's undeniable that he's being phased out and is barely even a factor now.

TWill is a vested vet and was on the roster Week One so his 3.5m is double guaranteed

Any future guarantees(he has none) can be voided by suspensions but not current ones.... he will get his full pay minus 205k per game he is suspended whether he is cut or not

They could trade him and get off the hook for his salary but that is not happening

 

[Nightman]

Goodell is a joke and isn't involved in minor suspensions. The NFL is an old boys club at the end of the day and people working for each side work several levels below Jerry and Goodell.

And BTW, when Jerry and Goodell went to war over Zeke - Goodell won the suspension battle but Jerry won the war.

How did JJones win the war? He had to pay the legal fees as well

 

[Pantone282C]

Not sure if anyone answered but Yes because he is a vested vet and was on the roster week one his salary is guaranteed minus the games he is suspended.

Unless he is cut, right?

 

[blumayne38]

Brice Butler

We’re being serious?

 

[Stash]

TWill is a vested vet and was on the roster Week One so his 3.5m is double guaranteed

Any future guarantees(he has none) can be voided by suspensions but not current ones.... he will get his full pay minus 205k per game he is suspended whether he is cut or not

They could trade him and get off the hook for his salary but that is not happening

So there’s no option for relief from guarantees from a suspension?

 

[Nightman]

So there’s no option for relief from guarantees from a suspension?

Not this year..... they get back 205k per game for the suspension and could go after 80k per game for his signing bonus but once the year started this year's salary was locked in

If he had future guarantees they can be voided with suspensions from the Personal Conduct policy..... I don't think cases or teams are handled the same way

https://overthecap.com/voiding-of-guarantees/