Dak wasn't that good last night **merged**

You mean like Romo?
Romo became a great QB when he had a good RB to take some of the pressure off of him. Earlier in Romo’s career, he lost several games because he was trying to do everything himself and he choked, but he really improved about the time that his body started falling apart.
 
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
Yeah, but he and the team either melted down (like the Favre game against the Vikes, which was not all on Romo) or more often, got snake-bitten (the 2014 Packers game). Say what you want about Romo, but I promise you that the team or his body (and sometimes it was directly related to the team when he was getting his clock cleaned) let him down more often than his play on the field did. When things were going well for #9, nobody could spin a prettier pass or had better touch.
LMAO :lmao2:It’s never all on Romo. Everybody else on the team were bums. Right???
 
These silly *** comments are exactly why I believe hatred is at the top of the agenda against Dak. The same bs they bash Dak abouis just an excuse for Romo.
 
You didn’t have to say it. You are still blindly saying that Dak has a better team than Romo ever had. And that’s a damned lie. Romo came aboard with all the tools in place but didn’t deliver. Simple as that!!! Romo had one of the best WRs and one the best TEs in NFL HISTORY and still came up short. All Dak has is Zeke. Come on man!!! You guys are plain hypocritical and biased against Dak. There’s no other reason for this blasphemy.
Again, you're reading what you want into my post and not what I said. I was explaining why people were commenting about the difference in OL talent between Dak and Tony's terms and your using it to push your agenda. I like Dak but unlike you, I try to be objective about him.
 
Now you’re talking stupid. How could a bunch of average WRs and an aging TE equate to the best team? Shut that bs up
How many TDs and yards does Dez have and where does he rank all-time on the Cowboys lists? He only became average when Dak started throwing to him. That isn't necessarily a knock on Dak, but it is a fact.
 
The 2016 was the best team that the Cowboys fielded this millennium. It was built to take Tony to the promise land and Dak took it for a nice ride himself.
Agree to disagree.
 
I just rewatched the game again. He played good. Only 2 passes I can say were poor. Both in the end zone...one to Rico and the other to Beasley. Other than that,a tough game where both defenses were going to make you work hard. One play really annoyed me though..(aside from the NY TD pass)..Swaim not blocking his man at all on a Dak run up the left for 9 yards. Get his hands on the guy and give the QB some room for the first down.
 
How many TDs and yards does Dez have and where does he rank all-time on the Cowboys lists? He only became average when Dak started throwing to him. That isn't necessarily a knock on Dak, but it is a fact.
No it’s not a fact.
 
How many TDs and yards does Dez have and where does he rank all-time on the Cowboys lists? He only became average when Dak started throwing to him. That isn't necessarily a knock on Dak, but it is a fact.
Where does TO and Witten rank amongst their peers ALL TIME? Dez is not a future Hall of Famer. TO was just inducted and we all know Witten is a shoe in. Dez was going downhill fast by the time Dak took over. Come on man. You can do better than that.
 
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Seriously?

That's exactly the narrative used to support Dak. It's everyone else's fault.
Liar!!!! The narrative on Dak is he is young and still needs to grow and develop more. As all young quarterbacks do.
 
Where does TO and Witten rank amongst their peers ALL TIME? Dez is not a future Hall of Famer. TO was just inducted and we all know Witten is a shoe in. Dez was going downhill fast by the time Dak took over. Come on man. You can do better than that.
Again, never said Witten in his prime was better than Witten in 2016. Also never said that Dez was better than T.O. Please read what I said. I just said that Dez's numbers up until Romo got hurt in 2015 would show that he was not merely an average receiver. Dez has more TDs, yards and receptions in a Cowboy uniform than any receiver who played in this millenium. Again, the "Dak is a young QB" excuse can only carry you so far. If he's on any team other than the Cowboys in 2016, he's likely a sub .500 QB. The fact that he had such a highly regarded year have set up expectations that he had no way of meeting. Truth be told, he is a young QB, but he's behind guys like Goff and Wentz when it comes to understanding the position at the NFL level. It should be expected considering where he was drafted and the offense he played in at Miss St. But even Goff who played in an "air raid" two read system is further along than Dak is now.
 
Again, never said Witten in his prime was better than Witten in 2016. Also never said that Dez was better than T.O. Please read what I said. I just said that Dez's numbers up until Romo got hurt in 2015 would show that he was not merely an average receiver. Dez has more TDs, yards and receptions in a Cowboy uniform than any receiver who played in this millenium. Again, the "Dak is a young QB" excuse can only carry you so far. If he's on any team other than the Cowboys in 2016, he's likely a sub .500 QB. The fact that he had such a highly regarded year have set up expectations that he had no way of meeting. Truth be told, he is a young QB, but he's behind guys like Goff and Wentz when it comes to understanding the position at the NFL level. It should be expected considering where he was drafted and the offense he played in at Miss St. But even Goff who played in an "air raid" two read system is further along than Dak is now.

Goff and Wentz were picks 1-2, Dak was pick 135. The scouts were right when they said Dak would need more time to develop as a pro passer. The plan was to give him that time behind Romo, but Romo's body had other ideas.

I think Dak's understanding of the game is on par with the other young QB's. It's just that he has a different skill set. Goff and Wentz are excellent pure passers. Dak never was, not at Mississippi State, not in his Offensive Rookie of the Year season in 2016, not now.

But this does not mean he can't become a franchise passer. Cam Newton is not a great pure passer. Neither were Steve McNair or Donovan McNabb. When it comes to Dak Prescott, it helps to not compare him to guys whose play style is so completely different from his it's like apples and oranges.
 
You have a valid point. But why are the Pro Bowl linemen on our team always over emphasized when speaking about the players Dak has around him?We always hear about Dak has all pro talent on his Oline and all the other bs. But it’s all minimized when all pro linemen Romo played with are brought up.
If it’s worthless when they were with Romo then the same applies to Dak. Why the double standards?
All pro is a lot more prestigious than pro bowl as well as a lot more meaningful. I'm pretty confident that none of Romo's linemen until Tyron hit his stride got any all pro votes. Unlike where Dak had 3 all pro linemen his rookie year and I think 2 last year.


The 2016 was the best team that the Cowboys fielded this millennium. It was built to take Tony to the promise land and Dak took it for a nice ride himself.
I think the only one that was arguable was 2007, and I would strongly disagree due to TO being a shell of himself in the playoffs due to injuries.
 
Again, never said Witten in his prime was better than Witten in 2016. Also never said that Dez was better than T.O. Please read what I said. I just said that Dez's numbers up until Romo got hurt in 2015 would show that he was not merely an average receiver. Dez has more TDs, yards and receptions in a Cowboy uniform than any receiver who played in this millenium. Again, the "Dak is a young QB" excuse can only carry you so far. If he's on any team other than the Cowboys in 2016, he's likely a sub .500 QB. The fact that he had such a highly regarded year have set up expectations that he had no way of meeting. Truth be told, he is a young QB, but he's behind guys like Goff and Wentz when it comes to understanding the position at the NFL level. It should be expected considering where he was drafted and the offense he played in at Miss St. But even Goff who played in an "air raid" two read system is further along than Dak is now.


Goff and Wentz were picks 1-2, Dak was pick 135. The scouts were right when they said Dak would need more time to develop as a pro passer. The plan was to give him that time behind Romo, but Romo's body had other ideas.

I think Dak's understanding of the game is on par with the other young QB's. It's just that he has a different skill set. Goff and Wentz are excellent pure passers. Dak never was, not at Mississippi State, not in his Offensive Rookie of the Year season in 2016, not now.

But this does not mean he can't become a franchise passer. Cam Newton is not a great pure passer. Neither were Steve McNair or Donovan McNabb. When it comes to Dak Prescott, it helps to not compare him to guys whose play style is so completely different from his it's like apples and oranges.
Yeah, I kind of said all of that when I mentioned that it should be expected where Dak was drafted and where he went to college. The OP is so hopelessly stuck on Dak, I'm trying to pry him off the cliff. The term "pure passer" has kind of become a misnomber. You either can make consistent reads in a pro system or you can't. Cam Newton is an exception that proves the rule, but he has struggled with his consistency when defenses "stay at home" against him (like we did in the second half) and when they take away his targets in the passing game. That is why RPO systems don't work well in the NFL. It's why QBs like Russell Wilson have become pocket passers. Right now, Dak is playing a system like a poor man's Cam. If rich man's Cam (i.e. the real Cam) struggles, what makes people think that Dak can be more effective than Cam?

Dak simply must move toward the elements that Linehan showed in gameone, that he had to take off the table against the Giants because Dak failed to execute them. If he can successfully do that, while maintaining his running.improvising skills, he can be a poor man's Aaron Rodgers (with good, but not exceptional arm talent) versus a poor man's Cam. Then we can win a Super Bowl.
 
All pro is a lot more prestigious than pro bowl as well as a lot more meaningful. I'm pretty confident that none of Romo's linemen until Tyron hit his stride got any all pro votes. Unlike where Dak had 3 all pro linemen his rookie year and I think 2 last year.



I think the only one that was arguable was 2007, and I would strongly disagree due to TO being a shell of himself in the playoffs due to injuries.
Yep! Just sayin'.
 
All pro is a lot more prestigious than pro bowl as well as a lot more meaningful. I'm pretty confident that none of Romo's linemen until Tyron hit his stride got any all pro votes. Unlike where Dak had 3 all pro linemen his rookie year and I think 2 last year.



I think the only one that was arguable was 2007, and I would strongly disagree due to TO being a shell of himself in the playoffs due to injuries.
Dak hasn’t had All Pro receivers either. Do do tell. Would you rather have several pro bowl linemen and All World HOF Wr and TE, or 3 All pro linemen and Average WRs and TEs? Be honest
 
Romo became a great QB when he had a good RB to take some of the pressure off of him. Earlier in Romo’s career, he lost several games because he was trying to do everything himself and he choked, but he really improved about the time that his body started falling apart.

No, Romo was always a great QB once he developed. He didn't have the team around him or the coaching to make a serious run. Dak has the same problem and he also hasn't fully developed yet. In only his 3rd season, Dak is still part of the problem on offense.
 

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