The Dak Thread **merged**

[GoJacks]

Yah and Zeke had all kinds of room to run yesterday didn't he?

The line had one good game and the rest have been average to horrid.

That's the point. The defense is begging Dak to beat them with stacked fronts and he is incapable. An average QB puts up 400 and 4TD against that and wins in a blowout.

 

[Zman5]

The answer is simple.. Stop trying to make Dak a pocket passer, let him run it more to get his butterflies under control and into some kind of rhythm where he excels...

He's the best we got at QB and there are things we can do to look at least average on offense. What you suggested is one of them.
I have no idea why we don't run him more. I don't know why we don't run more play action. These are things he can do well and be more successful. Then I get the answer when I come to the Zone see my sig pic.

 

[gimmesix]

same here, the texan game also convinced me.
it seems dak is going to be dak. i would give the poor rookie some more time before feeding him to the sharks though.

My mind-set is we need to get a good look at him to determine what we need to do. He's got a pretty good line in front of him and he's got a very good running back ... and like the receivers are saying, they're getting open often enough.

 

[CF74]

Lmao

You mean step trying to make him an NFL QB and have them run college plays.

Brilliant

That’s the only time we win...

 

[CF74]

He's the best we got at QB and there are things we can do to look at least average on offense. What you suggested is one of them.
I have no idea why we don't run him more. I don't know why we don't run more play action. These are things he can do well and be more successful. Then I get the answer when I come to the Zone see my sig pic.

Because Stephen doesn’t want him to be a running qb...

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Instead of obsessing over sending a 2nd for Earl Thomas maybe we should've offered the Jets a 2nd for Bridgewater?

Yes now that the rooster has come home to roost.

 

[gimmesix]

I have to disagree with you there. I don't think Rush will be a good backup.

I don't think I have enough evidence to argue against that. I want to see more before making a determination on him in that role, but not to the extent that I wouldn't try to find someone better.

 

[gimmesix]

Prepare for disappointment.

The chances of White getting any snaps this year is 0%.

I don't think it will happen. I think we'll play Dak and he'll continue to look good at times and the front office and coaching staff will be convinced that the team can win with him if only we get him some better receivers and tight ends and once things settle back to normal on the line.

The only thing that can save us from that is the fact that eventually we'll have to pay him and this team has become too cheap to overpay players who are underperforming.

 

[waldoputty]

My mind-set is we need to get a good look at him to determine what we need to do. He's got a pretty good line in front of him and he's got a very good running back ... and like the receivers are saying, they're getting open often enough.

i think he gets close to 3 secs on most passing downs

 

[black label]

I have been a proponent of a wait-and-see approach with Prescott because he's only in his third year as a starter. I felt we'd have a better pulse on who he is as a starting quarterback by the end of this season.

I also believed that like with most quarterbacks he gets blamed when there's poor protection, receivers run bad routes or drop balls, the play-calls are bad, etc. Then, there are his 2016 performance and games like Detroit where he makes some picture-perfect passes.

The Texans' game convinced me, though, that Dak is only that type of quarterback who gives you those glimpses that make you believe he can be better than he is. We can look at dropped passes, protection breakdowns, poor play-calling and say that Dak would look like that 2016 QB if those things were fixed, but truthfully in the Houston game, he had too many passes where the receiver was open and the protection was good enough and he couldn't connect. There's just too much hit and miss in his game, and I think if we focus on the hit and ignore the miss, we're going to end up sticking with a starter who isn't good enough unless everything around him is pretty much perfect.

I'm ready at this point to see what Mike White can show before it's necessary for us to draft a quarterback in the first round next year. Yes, I skipped Cooper Rush, but that's because I think Rush's ceiling is being a good backup, but he doesn't have the zip to be a starter.

I know some will believe I'm overreacting to a bad performance, but there's been too much InDakuracy last year and this year. It's no longer about who Dak might can become, it's about who he is.

 

[gimmesix]

Brining in another rookie QB with a bad Oline, no one to throw to, and bad coaching is just going to ruin ANOTHER good young QB. Or we wont have the ability to properly analyze him.

Fix the line and the pass catchers while firing the coach. Then worry about a QB.

There were plenty of plays there to be made with that bad oline, no one to throw to and bad coaching against Houston, and Dak failed to make them. The conditions aren't ideal, but I'm for seeing what the rookie can do in those conditions or we'll certainly have to worry about a QB. At worst, the rookie makes us worse instead of possibly mediocre and we're in a better position to draft a good quarterback.

 

[jrumann59]

The answer is simple.. Stop trying to make Dak a pocket passer, let him run it more to get his butterflies under control and into some kind of rhythm where he excels...

He sucks throwing on move. If he can't pass in the pocket and can't pass outside the pocket guess what he can't pass.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

lol.

Players never improve..might as well give up on them, especially when they have never shown anything...oh wait.

Your right players usually do improve, seems in Daks case he is regressing since his rookie season 2 years ago not improving

 

[Clove]

I don't think I have enough evidence to argue against that. I want to see more before making a determination on him in that role, but not to the extent that I wouldn't try to find someone better.

I'm with you there. I would not try to find someone better, especially because if White starts, this year is toast anyways.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Dak's been sucking but no young QB brought in will change anything with the offense until JG is gone.

Do you think Aikman would have been the same if he started out his career with JG instead of Norv and Jimmy?
Do you think Romo would have been the same if he started out his career with JG instead of Payton and Parcells?

I don't thinks so.

I agree but people need to go back and see Aikman numbers his first 3 years. He was terrible and folks tried running him out of town

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

I agree but people need to go back and see Aikman numbers his first 3 years. He was terrible and folks tried running him out of town

They were terrible but they were better every year, which showed he was progressing our current QB is going in the opposite direction and regressing

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Dak's been sucking but no young QB brought in will change anything with the offense until JG is gone.

Do you think Aikman would have been the same if he started out his career with JG instead of Norv and Jimmy?
Do you think Romo would have been the same if he started out his career with JG instead of Payton and Parcells?

I don't thinks so.

Exactly. Coaching matters!

 

[erod]

Mike White isn't ready.

However, he can't be worse that Dak.

That would at least be interesting.

Dak is painful to watch.

 

[Zman5]

I agree but people need to go back and see Aikman numbers his first 3 years. He was terrible and folks tried running him out of town

He have said many times he questioned himself if he was even good enough to play in the NFL his first few years. He also said, things all changed for him when Norv got there. Amazing what a good coach can do for a young player.

 

[CF74]

He sucks throwing on move. If he can't pass in the pocket and can't pass outside the pocket guess what he can't pass.

Yeah you sound blind