To all those saying Dak Sucks

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Just noting that from the view from a tv screen or up in the stands, and no defensive people rushing you, it's a heck of lot easier to say "there was an open receiver right in front of him!". And we often criticize quarterbacks who don't appear to have the "clock in their head" and take sacks when they could run, etc.

No doubt Dak has his issues, but armchair quarterbacking is easy....

there was plenty of film room that showed these tendencies starting with Carolina game....and expectations are to do what all other good QBs do, not expecting you or I do to it.... its expectations from a good NFL QB...

 

[LACowboysFan1]

I'm sure there are some fans who think Prescott walk on water

Maybe I missed them, but I can't recall anybody who has that opinion. Sure there are people who say replacing Dak, or Dak playing like Tom Brady, would make this team a contender, but that's not the same as saying he has no fault in the Cowboys' mediocre performances..

 

[LACowboysFan1]

there was plenty of film room that showed these tendencies starting with Carolina game....and expectations are to do what all other good QBs do, not expecting you or I do to it.... its expectations from a good NFL QB...

Right, but too many just watch the games and love to point out where Dak didn't see a receiver, like he has the same view as someone in the stands or from a camera location and has no pass rush, or players in his sight lines, or that the receiver couldn't possibly have run the wrong route. And we see every quarterback miss open receivers, Dak isn't alone in that regard, though he has more of those than the Bradys and Rodgers and Brees, etc,..

 

[starfan1]

OK, lets say there are differences....so Dak as a 4th rounder sucks is what you are trying to say? so lets excuse the inept play because he is a4th rounder...then lets move on...lets draft a QB high and be done with it.

with that said, its year 3, both were drafted three years ago...it doesn't matter where you were drafted, its your play that counts..... brees was a asecond round pick. brady a 6th, Rodgers fell to 20 in the first round.... Marriotta and Jamison were first over all....none of that matters..... after three years expectations are different.....in year 3 , Dak hasn't elevated his game...he is still playing like a 4th rounder or worse..time to move on...

its obvious where your stance is so trying to discuss it further with you is futile most likely. Call it square peg in round hole. By your logic perhaps we should have dumped the kid from Wisconsin early in his career. Dak has shown promise he took over a team whose starting QB went down and led them to the playoffs in fact he led them as far as Romo did in 13 years so its not like he cant lead this team to the playoffs he can hes proven that and liken I said earlier we dont have a say in it

so all the *****ing and whining isnt doing any good cause he isn't going anywhere Jerry has said as much. I am not blind I can see he needs to improve on some things but Ive also seen flashes of outstanding play beyond just bus driving. He is not going to sling it around the yard like Romo and this team isn't built that way anyway so if your judging Dak based on what youve seen the last 5 years or so from Romo you are simply going to give your brain a hemorrhage because its not going to be like but it doesn't mean he cant excel record wise

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Right, but too many just watch the games and love to point out where Dak didn't see a receiver, like he has the same view as someone in the stands or from a camera location and has no pass rush, or players in his sight lines, or that the receiver couldn't possibly have run the wrong route. And we see every quarterback miss open receivers, Dak isn't alone in that regard, though he has more of those than the Bradys and Rodgers and Brees, etc,..

no, Dak isn't alone, he has a higher percentage of misses than other good QBs.... every QB makes bad throws, every QB makes bad decisions, every QB misses open receivers...but its how much of it do you do, how often, when its most of the time, every game, then you have issues .

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

its obvious where your stance is so trying to discuss it further with you is futile most likely. Call it square peg in round hole. By your logic perhaps we should have dumped the kid from Wisconsin early in his career. Dak has shown promise he took over a team whose starting QB went down and led them to the playoffs in fact he led them as far as Romo did in 13 years so its not like he cant lead this team to the playoffs he can hes proven that and liken I said earlier we dont have a say in it

so all the *****ing and whining isnt doing any good cause he isn't going anywhere Jerry has said as much. I am not blind I can see he needs to improve on some things but Ive also seen flashes of outstanding play beyond just bus driving. He is not going to sling it around the yard like Romo and this team isn't built that way anyway so if your judging Dak based on what youve seen the last 5 years or so from Romo you are simply going to give your brain a hemorrhage because its not going to be like but it doesn't mean he cant excel record wise

he fell into the perfect situation. one of the greatest OLs and a great running back flirting with 2000 yards, Witten Dez and element of surprise....almost everything went perfect for him the first year.... almost any QB could have lead that team to playoffs...in fact in 2014, we had a similar team and we went to playoffs. its what you do when things aren't perfect, can you elevate those around you, can you lift the team, can you create wins...obviously the answer is a big fat no.....and perhaps Das peaked in his first year... who knows, but three years and the trend is obvious...this is as clear as Garrett needing to go.....no differences....

and jerry says a lot, he is a marketing man, he would be absolutely STUPID as the GM of the team to say, we need to go look for another QB, while the QB is struggling in mid season with draft 7 months away.... and Jerry says, Garrett will be here for a long time, and are you OK with that?

Dak's NFL issues to date, read exactly like his college scouting report, same flaws, sam same short comings, same problems...... but everyone wants to live off of that first year, when the past 22 games tell us otherwise.

 

[starfan1]

he fell into the perfect situation. one of the greatest OLs and a great running back flirting with 2000 yards, Witten Dez and element of surprise....almost everything went perfect for him the first year.... almost any QB could have lead that team to playoffs...in fact in 2014, we had a similar team and we went to playoffs. its what you do when things aren't perfect, can you elevate those around you, can you lift the team, can you create wins...obviously the answer is a big fat no.....and perhaps Das peaked in his first year... who knows, but three years and the trend is obvious...this is as clear as Garrett needing to go.....no differences....

and jerry says a lot, he is a marketing man, he would be absolutely STUPID as the GM of the team to say, we need to go look for another QB, while the QB is struggling in mid season with draft 7 months away.... and Jerry says, Garrett will be here for a long time, and are you OK with that?

Dak's NFL issues to date, read exactly like his college scouting report, same flaws, sam same short comings, same problems...... but everyone wants to live off of that first year, when the past 22 games tell us otherwise.

Lol gonna be a long struggle for you . You may want to look for a team with a qb more to your liking

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

he fell into the perfect situation. one of the greatest OLs and a great running back flirting with 2000 yards, Witten Dez and element of surprise....almost everything went perfect for him the first year.... almost any QB could have lead that team to playoffs...in fact in 2014, we had a similar team and we went to playoffs. its what you do when things aren't perfect, can you elevate those around you, can you lift the team, can you create wins...obviously the answer is a big fat no.....and perhaps Das peaked in his first year... who knows, but three years and the trend is obvious...this is as clear as Garrett needing to go.....no differences....

and jerry says a lot, he is a marketing man, he would be absolutely STUPID as the GM of the team to say, we need to go look for another QB, while the QB is struggling in mid season with draft 7 months away.... and Jerry says, Garrett will be here for a long time, and are you OK with that?

Dak's NFL issues to date, read exactly like his college scouting report, same flaws, sam same short comings, same problems...... but everyone wants to live off of that first year, when the past 22 games tell us otherwise.

The prior year we had the following QB's - Weeden, Cassel and Moore. Same OL, Dez, and Witten - minus the RB we had everything the same. We went 4-12. Are we suggesting that just adding Zeke accounted for the what 8 game shift in wins the following year with Dak as QB? Also I understand the surprise for a couple of games but defensive co-ordinators adapt pretty quick, it certainly doesn't take an entire season to adapt.

 

[Gator88]

The prior year we had the following QB's - Weeden, Cassel and Moore. Same OL, Dez, and Witten - minus the RB we had everything the same. We went 4-12. Are we suggesting that just adding Zeke accounted for the what 8 game shift in wins the following year with Dak as QB? Also I understand the surprise for a couple of games but defensive co-ordinators adapt pretty quick, it certainly doesn't take an entire season to adapt.

Adding Zeke, 4th place schedule vs 1st place schedule, as well as defensive coordinators taking a year to adjust. It usually does take defensive coordinators an offseason to adjust. 2012 RG3, 2013 Nick Foles, and even the wildcat of the 2008 Dolphins were examples of teams that made the playoffs riding short lived success after having 5 or fewer wins the previous year.

 

[Kevinicus]

The prior year we had the following QB's - Weeden, Cassel and Moore. Same OL, Dez, and Witten - minus the RB we had everything the same. We went 4-12. Are we suggesting that just adding Zeke accounted for the what 8 game shift in wins the following year with Dak as QB? Also I understand the surprise for a couple of games but defensive co-ordinators adapt pretty quick, it certainly doesn't take an entire season to adapt.

Not the same OL.

How long did it take for RG3 to be adapted to?

 

[pupulehaole]

I can't do it anymore...i can't come on this board and see all of this lazy and useless analysis.

Every pass that isn't perfect is hyper anayzed and overly critiqued to being Dak's fault. Ooooohhhhhh....that ball to Austin requires him to raise his and and jump....and? Did you watch the Texans catching balls all over the place? Did you watch any other nfl games where guys are catching balls all over the place?

Newsflash....we have NO weapons. Who is our guy we are going to with any consistency on 3rd and 7? Who is beating coverage? Nobe of them do it. Not even Beasely.

A few points to ponder:
* we are a running team with a ton invested in the OL and RB. We were ineffective in the run game.
*Both interceptions hit the wrs in the hands.

*Dak Bashers....at this point in Romo's career...he was still carrying a clip board and didn't start his first game until a few more weeks.

It is a travesty how we have given this young qb nothing to work with. I fear we are ruining him with the crapshow we have surrounded him with.

hahahahaha wouldnt matter if Randy Moss was out there catching the ball bud he misses Gathers WIDE OPEN in the endzone... its ok... hes not elite.... hes not good... hes just average.

 

[Jake]

Say "Dak sucks" until you're blue in the face and it won't matter. Jerry loves him. I share the concerns over his limitations, but I don't own the team either.

Those of you with a Justin Herbert fetish may as well get over it now because it ain't happening.

 

[Floatyworm]

Dak was an elite QB for the first 24 games of his career. 38 TD, 9 INT.

Then he was a bad QB for the next 13 games. 10 TD, 13 INT.

He was elite again Sunday vs the Jaguars. Hopefully the 2016 Dak is back for good.

Ok....for those keeping track...

Dak had Romo the first 24 games telling him wher to throw the football/checks @ the line....

Then Romo retired...Bad Dak

Cowboys took the playbook away from Linehan this last week...and put in Kellen Moore's Input...

 

[ClintDagger]

Say "Dak sucks" until you're blue in the face and it won't matter. Jerry loves him. I share the concerns over his limitations, but I don't own the team either.

Those of you with a Justin Herbert fetish may as well get over it now because it ain't happening.

When Dak was winning game after game after game in ‘16 people were saying there’s no way Jerry wouldn’t put Romo back in there when he gets healthy bc Jerry is so loyal to Romo. But that didn’t happen. I have no doubt that Jerry is big time rooting for Garrett and Dak to do enough to keep their jobs. But I do think there’s a limit to his patience. This team is pretty schizophrenic right now. If they contend for the playoffs JG and Dak are probably ok. But hypothetically if they were to drop a 5 or 6 win season I honestly think big changes would be in order. Jerry has people around him right now that he listens to. It’s the people that talk him out of drafting Manziel. And who tell him to part with Romo, Bailey, and Dez. If Dak plays awful and this offense is stagnant over a 16 game schedule his job could be on the line IMO.

 

[Nav22]

Ok....for those keeping track...

Dak had Romo the first 24 games telling him wher to throw the football/checks @ the line....

Then Romo retired...Bad Dak

Cowboys took the playbook away from Linehan this last week...and put in Kellen Moore's Input...

Uh no, the 24 games include the first half of the 2017 season. Romo retired after 2016.

 

[black label]

Saying dak sucks lol

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Say "Dak sucks" until you're blue in the face and it won't matter. Jerry loves him. I share the concerns over his limitations, but I don't own the team either.

Those of you with a Justin Herbert fetish may as well get over it now because it ain't happening.

This to latter part, he will be a gnats or raiders if they trade Carr, between those 2 teams whomever wins 2 games have taken themselves out of the Herbert race, because the other team will make sure not to win again this year.

 

[jnday]

what would Dak end up doing, if he was in and out of court, in the middle of false accusation and being dragged through the mud? he still performed above Dak given the circumstances and Dak fell apart. totally fell apart when he lost Zeke. we still had a decent running game after Zeke, but Dak just couldn't do anything to carry this team....he still had dez, witten and Williams, but now I am sure people will say witten wasn't witten, dez was not good and Williams sucks....and OL was bad...Dak is absolved of all faults no matter what, the spin on excuses for him are getting ridiculous...

but even with all of that, the tape doesn't lie. he doesn't go through his progressions. he misses wide pen recievers, he is pulling the ball down and running, he doesn't throw with anticipation, he is not accurate...but I am sure, people will say, the tape was Doctored....

Dak is an average QB....his BIGGEST asset is his running...and that's not saying much

You are being too generous when you refer to Dak as average.

 

[Jarv]

Dak is a good running QB, plus a poor passing QB. In the passing game I'm more worried about the receivers he doesn't throw to that are open, then the bad passes he throws with his accuracy issues.

 

[Jake]

When Dak was winning game after game after game in ‘16 people were saying there’s no way Jerry wouldn’t put Romo back in there when he gets healthy bc Jerry is so loyal to Romo. But that didn’t happen. I have no doubt that Jerry is big time rooting for Garrett and Dak to do enough to keep their jobs. But I do think there’s a limit to his patience. This team is pretty schizophrenic right now. If they contend for the playoffs JG and Dak are probably ok. But hypothetically if they were to drop a 5 or 6 win season I honestly think big changes would be in order. Jerry has people around him right now that he listens to. It’s the people that talk him out of drafting Manziel. And who tell him to part with Romo, Bailey, and Dez. If Dak plays awful and this offense is stagnant over a 16 game schedule his job could be on the line IMO.

Tony was 36 years old, had missed several games due to injury his last couple years, and Jerry thought he'd found his next QB in Dak, so the situations are very different.

Listening to Jerry this week there's very little indication his opinion of Dak has changed. As for a limit to Jerry's patience, people have been calling for Garrett's head the last 2 years. Jerry's comments on JG last week did little to suggest he's close to getting rid of him, either.

I'm not saying I agree with Jerry on either count, but he's been very patient with JG and dumping his 25 year old QB doesn't seem likely at this time. There's no attractive alternative currently on the roster, so that would mean starting over...kinda like replacing JG. Old Jerry doesn't seem interested in starting over.