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Dallas Cowboys: It’s time to start giving Dak Prescott some credit
https://thelandryhat.com/2018/11/26/dallas-cowboys-dak-prescott-credit/



...Prescott actually deserves some credit for the way he has played from the beginning of the season to today. The Dallas Cowboys front office left Prescott short a true number one receiver, but even with a receiving core that didn’t scare teams, he put up decent numbers for the situation he was given.

When you look at his numbers he was completing 62.1 percent of his passes while averaging 202 yards, 6.9 yards per attempt, with eight touchdowns to four interceptions. Those numbers gave him a passer rating of 87.4 through the first eight weeks. Again not great numbers but for what he was given that is pretty good.

Now when the Dallas Cowboy front office realized the error of their ways putting their franchise quarterback in that position they immediately went out and got Dak Prescott a number one receiver. And in the four weeks since his arrival, Prescott has shown everyone what he can do when he has a big-time threat on the outside.

With receiver Amari Cooper on the field, Dak Prescott is completing 97.7 percent of his passes and averaging 240 yards, and 7.3 yards per attempt with three touchdowns to one interception. Those numbers give him a new passer rating of 96.4 with Cooper on the field. Those numbers look like they will continue to rise as the season goes along...
97.7%? I don't think so.
 
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I'm not going to knock Dak because Cooper took a 30 yard pass to the house. Or a quick slant 40 yards for another TD. All QB's: Brees, Goff, Brady, Mahomes....all of them get their stats padded from similar plays. And nobody knocks them for them for it. How many extra yards has Tyreek Hill gained for Mahomes? Nobody says boo about that. Joe Montana won 4 Super Bowls letting Jerry Rice and John Taylor do all his stat padding.

That being said, Dak still holds on to the ball too long. Does not step into the pocket when he has chances to. And his footwork is a mess when pressured leading to inaccurate throws. His throws on 9 routes down the sidelines are laughably inaccurate. Most of them end up 5 yards out of bounds.

All this supports Dak not getting an extension this offseason. He needs to be further evaluated next year under his current rookie deal. I have not seen nearly enough to warrant a $100M+ contract.
 
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Id like to see him become more aggressive in that regard but to be fair your bff Wentz hasnt done much better, neither has the immortal Tom Brady. In Daks defense he didn't have much for receivers to start the season. Its also worth noting very few qbs in this league could've made the plays he made with his legs vs Washington. That throw where a Commander was hanging off of him was impressive, so was his third down td run.

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#yards

Whenever you want to talk about it intelligently let me know.

I doubt you're capable of it.
 

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If it were not for that 90 yarder, there is nothing in his stats to say he is playing better. He actually is not playing better, he does have a better target but it is the same Dak as game 1-6. The Commanders game outside of those 2 TD's by Amari was horrid QB play.

Exactly right. Same guy with just a better playmaker after the catch on the roster.
 

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Never before Dak have I seen people add in the yardage behind the line of scrimmage to try and make throws seem more impressive. Why am I seeing it now?

They may start totaling it in feet rather than yards before long. Sounds better.
 

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I'm not going to knock Dak because Cooper took a 30 yard pass to the house. Or a quick slant 40 yards for another TD. All QB's: Brees, Goff, Brady, Mahomes....all of them get their stats padded from similar plays. And nobody knocks them for them for it. How many extra yards has Tyreek Hill gained for Mahomes? Nobody says boo about that. Joe Montana won 4 Super Bowls letting Jerry Rice and John Taylor do all his stat padding.

That being said, Dak still holds on to the ball too long. Does not step into the pocket when he has chances to. And his footwork is a mess when pressures leading to inaccurate throws. His throws on 9 routes down the sidelines are laughably inaccurate. Most of them end up 5 yards out of bounds.

All this supports Dak not getting an extension this offseason. He needs to be further evaluated next year under his current rookie deal. I have not seen nearly enough to warrant a $100M+ contract.
I'm hard on Dak in many ways, but for QBs have to hit guys in stride and right location for them to make big plays out of them. So I have no problem with them getting their stats padded in this way.

To me I'm seeing throws from Dak downfield (10-20 yards) outside the number more frequently and imo that is the area he has had to improve on the most. So I'm seeing things I had hoped to see this year. Still incredibly inconsistent as we can all witness, but there is improvement.
 

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I'm not going to knock Dak because Cooper took a 30 yard pass to the house. Or a quick slant 40 yards for another TD. All QB's: Brees, Goff, Brady, Mahomes....all of them get their stats padded from similar plays. And nobody knocks them for them for it. How many extra yards has Tyreek Hill gained for Mahomes? Nobody says boo about that. Joe Montana won 4 Super Bowls letting Jerry Rice and John Taylor do all his stat padding.

That being said, Dak still holds on to the ball too long. Does not step into the pocket when he has chances to. And his footwork is a mess when pressures leading to inaccurate throws. His throws on 9 routes down the sidelines are laughably inaccurate. Most of them end up 5 yards out of bounds.

All this supports Dak not getting an extension this offseason. He needs to be further evaluated next year under his current rookie deal. I have not seen nearly enough to warrant a $100M+ contract.

Sure they do but they are in the upper 8's to over 9 YPA. Dak got a 90 and a 40 and still sits at 7.2! Comparing them to Dak is laughable!
 

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All this supports Dak not getting an extension this offseason. He needs to be further evaluated next year under his current rookie deal. I have not seen nearly enough to warrant a $100M+ contract.
In my opinion Jerry Jones has seen more than enough of Dak Prescott and shall gladly extend him. Of course, contracts are essentially dictated by the buyer's perspective of the market.

In this case Jones will weigh his desire to retain Prescott against whatever he sees will be the value set by other teams and will outbid that perceived amount of at least 1.5:1. Knowing Jones I would not be surprised if he offered a contractual amount of 1.75:1 over what he thinks Prescott would fetch from other teams.
 
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Sure they do but they are in the upper 8's to over 9 YPA. Dak got a 90 and a 40 and still sits at 7.2! Comparing them to Dak is laughable!
I'm not comparing Dak to anybody. All I'm saying is that all QB's benefit from having receivers take short passes long distances. This is undeniable.

And I also said Dak still has serious issues that I have problems with and that an extension this offseason would be foolish.
 

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Credit for what?

Dak hasn’t even produced a 300 yard passing game this season.

Romo averaged 246 yards per game in 2014 (considered by many his best season). Dak is averaging 220 now and has played 6 games so far against top 10 scoring defenses with most of those games without a top wideout or tightend and completly new cast outside Beasely.

That is what the credit is for.
 

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I'm not comparing Dak to anybody. All I'm saying is that all QB's benefit from having receivers take short passes long distances. This is undeniable.

And I also said Dak still has serious issues that I have problems with and that an extension this offseason would be foolish.

I agree is happens to all QB's and I should have specified that it was not just you mentioning those names. I saw that type of post a few times over the weekend
 
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In my opinion Jerry Jones has seen more than enough of Dak Prescott and shall gladly extend him. Of course, contracts are essentially dictated by the buyer's perspective of the market.

In this case Jones will weigh his desire to retain Prescott against whatever he sees will be the value set by other teams and will outbid that perceived amount of at least 1.5:1. Knowing Jones I would not be surprised if he offered a contractual amount of 1.75:1 over what he thinks Prescott would fetch from other teams.
I'm sure you are right about what Jerry is thinking.

I'm just saying it would be foolish to give him an extension now. But Jerry does not give a hoot about what I have to think about this (or anything else).
 

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He's the same turd he's always been, 2016 included. Looks better when his supporting cast is better, but cannot elevate anyone around him on his own. That's your stinker of a QB.
 

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He did nothing in that Commanders game as a passer to impress. It's just that his #1 WR took advantage of a defender falling down and poor tackling to rack up 100 yards of RAC for two scores. Giving him 280 yards and those 2 TDs.

He limits the offense so much. Everything is checkdown.
So this is what it looks like when someone who has no idea what they’re seeing when they watch football... tries to talk about it. Hmm.

“RAC doesn’t count!! Joe Montana and Steve Young SUCKED!”

289 on 31 attempts. 3 TD, no turnovers.

Learn football.
 

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I'm sure you are right about what Jerry is thinking.

I'm just saying it would be foolish to give him an extension now. But Jerry does not give a hoot about what I have to think about this (or anything else).
In the past, most of my opinions about roster moves were from my own viewpoint but I eventually gave up since Jones did not seemingly agree with many of mine. :p
 
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