Dak, Time to Release, and Air Yards

[Future]

15 QBs With Longest Time to Release and Average Intended Air Yards (AIAY):

J. Allen - 3.28, 11.1
D. Watson - 3.03, 8.7
R. Wilson - 3.0, 9.2
J Goff - 2.97, 8.9
A. Rodgers - 2.93, 8.8
P. Mahomes - 2.9, 9.2
S. Darnold - 2.88, 8.8
D. Prescott - 2.87, 7.6
B. Mayfield - 2.83, 9.0
B. Bortles - 2.79, 6.9
A. Smith - 2.78, 8.1
B. Osweiler - 2.78, 7.7
J. Rosen - 2.76, 8.3
J. Winston - 2.75, 10.8
J. Flacco - 2.71, 8.4

This is greatly indicative of how fast quarterbacks are able to decipher and throw the ball down the field. Some is a bit skewed by scrambling due to OL. Of those who hold the ball a long time, Dak's closest peers are Blake Bortles and Brock Osweiler.

10 QBs closest to Dak AIAY:

A. Smith - 2.78, 8.1
P. Rivers - 2.64, 7.9
C. Wentz - 2.66, 7.8
B. Osweiler - 2.78, 7.7
M. Mariota - 2.65, 7.7
D. Prescott - 2.87, 7.6
T. Brady - 2.58, 7.5
C Keenum - 2.68, 7.5
B. Roethlisberger - 2.54, 7.5
A. Luck - 2.63, 7.4
C. Newton - 2.63, 7.4

Of his peers who throw the ball downfield at the same rate, Dak is, by far, the slowest to release the ball. He doesn't even have any peers in his group.

This is why so many of the stats comparing Dak's passing to, really anybody, are disingenuous. A pass of the same distance is not the same if it takes .25 seconds longer to get there. That is an eternity in the NFL.

There are a whole bunch of trends to come from this type of data set, but at the end of the day, it's a pretty clear representation that Dak struggles to progress through his reads quickly and deliver the ball down the field. It is also why Cooper is the absolutely perfect receiver for Dak...in single-high, he just has to start at Amari until he's open.

 

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[Hawkeye0202]

Sorry....I'm not feeling this at all. Just don't see the correlation to wins/losses, but that's just me.

 

[pancakeman]

Pretty much what my eyes tell me.

The big question is, is good decisiveness something that experience can help with. I would think so and I hope so.

 

[Cowboyz88]

Another bash Dak thread, as if there weren't enough.

 

[percyhoward]

Of those who hold the ball a long time, Dak's closest peers are Blake Bortles and Brock Osweiler.

If he averaged a tenth of a second longer, his closest peers would be Wilson, Goff, Watson, Rodgers, and Mahomes.

 

[Future]

If he averaged a tenth of a second longer, his closest peers would be Wilson, Goff, Watson, Rodgers, and Mahomes.

Right, who all average well over a yard more per attempt.

 

[SoupcanSam]

15 QBs With Longest Time to Release and Average Intended Air Yards (AIAY):

J. Allen - 3.28, 11.1
D. Watson - 3.03, 8.7
R. Wilson - 3.0, 9.2
J Goff - 2.97, 8.9
A. Rodgers - 2.93, 8.8
P. Mahomes - 2.9, 9.2
S. Darnold - 2.88, 8.8
D. Prescott - 2.87, 7.6
B. Mayfield - 2.83, 9.0
B. Bortles - 2.79, 6.9
A. Smith - 2.78, 8.1
B. Osweiler - 2.78, 7.7
J. Rosen - 2.76, 8.3
J. Winston - 2.75, 10.8
J. Flacco - 2.71, 8.4

This is greatly indicative of how fast quarterbacks are able to decipher and throw the ball down the field. Some is a bit skewed by scrambling due to OL. Of those who hold the ball a long time, Dak's closest peers are Blake Bortles and Brock Osweiler.

10 QBs closest to Dak AIAY:

A. Smith - 2.78, 8.1
P. Rivers - 2.64, 7.9
C. Wentz - 2.66, 7.8
B. Osweiler - 2.78, 7.7
M. Mariota - 2.65, 7.7
D. Prescott - 2.87, 7.6
T. Brady - 2.58, 7.5
C Keenum - 2.68, 7.5
B. Roethlisberger - 2.54, 7.5
A. Luck - 2.63, 7.4
C. Newton - 2.63, 7.4

Of his peers who throw the ball downfield at the same rate, Dak is, by far, the slowest to release the ball. He doesn't even have any peers in his group.

This is why so many of the stats comparing Dak's passing to, really anybody, are disingenuous. A pass of the same distance is not the same if it takes .25 seconds longer to get there. That is an eternity in the NFL.

There are a whole bunch of trends to come from this type of data set, but at the end of the day, it's a pretty clear representation that Dak struggles to progress through his reads quickly and deliver the ball down the field. It is also why Cooper is the absolutely perfect receiver for Dak...in single-high, he just has to start at Amari until he's open.

The amount of unknown nitpicky Dak and cowboy stats posted this week have skyrocketed.

 

[Future]

Sorry....I'm not feeling this at all. Just don't see the correlation to wins/losses, but that's just me.

That's b/c wins/losses is a team stat, and this is about individual passing.

 

[PUSHfold]

If he averaged a tenth of a second longer, his closest peers would be Wilson, Goff, Watson, Rodgers, and Mahomes.

Yeah but those guys are bums any one holding the ball longer than Dak's a total scrub. Anyone behind Dak in any metric is an obvious scrub or they should be, CowboyZone posters tell me every day how poor Dak is.

 

[Future]

Another bash Dak thread, as if there weren't enough.

How is it a bash thread? It is raw data lol

 

[America's Cowboy]

One of the dumbest threads I have opened in a very long time.

 

[Cowboyz88]

How is it a bash thread? It is raw data lol

Could have gone into any number of other bash Dak threads.

You made it a point, and you knew exactly that when you posted it.

Just own it man.

 

[HungryLion]

Is this for the whole season?

Because it’s undeniable Dak player like crap earlier this season.

Just like it’s undeniable that Dak has played better as the season has gone on.

The numbers are interesting. But this season is really the take of two seasons or a Jekyll and Hyde season.

Dak was atrocious early in the year. And is playing much better now. Which isn’t terribly uncommon for young QB’s.

 

[percyhoward]

Right, who all average well over a yard more per attempt.

Of those five, only Goff and Mahomes average more than a yard per attempt more than Prescott.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2018/passing.htm

 

[CowboyRoy]

Sorry....I'm not feeling this at all. Just don't see the correlation to wins/losses, but that's just me.

Seems like a way to try and find something here.

 

[Future]

Of those five, only Goff and Mahomes average more than a yard per attempt more than Prescott.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2018/passing.htm

Air Yards...This data set takes all of the variance that comes with completions out of the equation.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I don't think this is pie in the sky stuff guys. This is what a lot of people are saying, with out the statistical analysis. Dak is slow with his reads, he takes too much time to get the ball off. Every wonder why the Cowboys passing game looks so much better when they run the two minute drill? Most of those passes are dictated, not a lot of reads. Why did Dak look so good in his first year? His passes were scripted and they didn't give him too much in the way of third and fourth options.

I do think there is a coorilation here but that's just my opinion.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Is this for the whole season?

Because it’s undeniable Dak player like crap earlier this season.

Just like it’s undeniable that Dak has played better as the season has gone on.

The numbers are interesting. But this season is really the take of two seasons or a Jekyll and Hyde season.

Dak was atrocious early in the year. And is playing much better now. Which isn’t terribly uncommon for young QB’s.

Dak played poorly in the beginning because of the players around him and scheme. Said this many times. Since Cooper came here, he now has a legit player to throw to. Coincide this with the firing of the Oline coach and that point is proven already. So I would like to see these numbers in the last 5 weeks.

 

[Future]

Could have gone into any number of other bash Dak threads.

You made it a point, and you knew exactly that when you posted it.

Just own it man.

It's not bashing. Bashing is baseless and akin to "Dak sucks and is a backup." It's just a discussion of what Dak actually is as a passer which, generally speaking, is slow to progress through reads and struggles to deliver down the field.

It's only bashing to those who refuse to accept that Dak is flawed as a passer. Did I say he's not a starter in the league? Did I say Dallas can't win with him? Did I say that Blake Bortles is better?