Zeke In Vegas Altercation/Dak Peacemaker

[CPanther95]

Of course. I agree 100%
My post was just to show that Brady actually lives real life outside of football like every normal human. Yet we have posters that want to attack Dak and Zeke for not locking themselves in a cell and watching football tapes for 6 straight months.

I have a feeling this thread is about to go off on a tangent with dozens of pictures of Tom Brady living a life in the offseason just like a "normal" person.

 

[superonyx]

I have a feeling this thread is about to go off on a tangent with dozens of pictures of Tom Brady living a life in the offseason just like a "normal" person.

You watch your mouth or I’m about to start posting pictures of Brady....starting with his college picture in his baggy boxers at the combine....don’t force my hand.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Knock off the personal attacks and acting like internet tough guys.
Keeping it up will result in a benching.

 

[JohnBoy]

Who is "Ezequal" Elliott anyway? And this gutter rodent is considered a "HUGE celebrity" ?

 

[DandyDon52]

Here is goff out in vegas. Whether you follow it or not almost all these guys go out. It is natural and normal. Healthy even. Most people once they retire have families and don't go to clubs at age 40. There are kids to take care of at that point. To expect someone to focus solely on their job at all times is unreasonable and leads to fatigue and burn out.

These guys could be working out and studying film during the day. Going out at night has nothing to do with their level of commitment.

Goff is in the SB, he didnt play bad in the playoffs, and most players retire around age 30-33 some earlier.
only a few go to late 30s or 40.
your right you can work in the day and then go out .
But for a athlete drinking and just doing whatever you want in off season is not a good thing, if you want to be as good as you can be.
It just depends on if they want to be winners or just make money and play games and maybe they win maybe they dont.

If Goff is in vegas, lol that may show up in SB, Brady is probably studing the film on rams while goff is having a good time.
Lets see how it turns out.

 

[glimmerman]

Of course. I agree 100%
My post was just to show that Brady actually lives real life outside of football like every normal human. Yet we have posters that want to attack Dak and Zeke for not locking themselves in a cell and watching football tapes for 6 straight months.

Yeah and there “normal” life and our normal life is very different. A lot of these celebrity players can’t even walk into a store. Lol. The money and fame sounds cool but I bet at some point it becomes a pain. Trying to sit down and eat a meal or just spend time with your family and have people coming up for autographs and pictures. Everything is cool and fine no one recognizes me, grab a chicken wing and go to eat and one person notices you and sets off a chain of people in the restaurant and then those people are taking pictures and texting and calling there friends and family that start showing up.

 

[Keithfansince5]

I dont think he's trying to promote his name. Seems to already be famous

I never heard of the bum....but then again I don't understand how some dude who plays music (DJ) could be "famous"?

 

[DandyDon52]

Of course. I agree 100%
My post was just to show that Brady actually lives real life outside of football like every normal human. Yet we have posters that want to attack Dak and Zeke for not locking themselves in a cell and watching football tapes for 6 straight months.

your taking what I said to a extreme, I didnt say lock them in a cell although not a bad idea.

going out is one thing, drinking a lot of booze is another. If you think heavy alcohol consumption in off season is good for athletes,
I dont know what to say.
Both Dak and Elliot could use more time in film room to get better, they wont get better going out and partying.
Dak says he wants to be the best QB ever, but it doesnt seem like he wants to put in the work to achieve that.

I dont know what they actually do from Rams game to TC, so I cant really judge them.
I have read a lot about brady and what he does in off season, there is a reason why he is in SB at age 40,
and it isnt because he drinks and partys in off season.

 

[8FOR!3]

I'm sure DJ Franzen is a regular at Drais, but HUGE celebrity DJ? Probably not

 

[DallasEast]

How individuals interact socially outside their professions differs from person-to-person. Every person deserves to enjoy themselves outside of work.

However, it is also relevant all individuals do not share exact same recreational routines. Some people pre-evaluate how their presence will influence others within social settings. Other people simply want to have fun and do not think about probable adverse ramifications wherever they go. There is no way of predicting all situations where others will take negatively advantage of someone in a social setting but it is also true some social settings are more advantageous for opportunists than other social settings.

It is an everyday predicament totally unfair for any professional athlete trying to enjoy time away from their work. Even so, it is also a circumstance where individuals can achieve both personal satisfaction and minimize confrontation when inner compromise is accomplished.

 

[superonyx]

your taking what I said to a extreme, I didnt say lock them in a cell although not a bad idea.

going out is one thing, drinking a lot of booze is another. If you think heavy alcohol consumption in off season is good for athletes,
I dont know what to say.
Both Dak and Elliot could use more time in film room to get better, they wont get better going out and partying.
Dak says he wants to be the best QB ever, but it doesnt seem like he wants to put in the work to achieve that.

I dont know what they actually do from Rams game to TC, so I cant really judge them.
I have read a lot about brady and what he does in off season, there is a reason why he is in SB at age 40,
and it isnt because he drinks and partys in off season.

Why are you assuming either guy is involved with "Heavy alcohol consumption"?
It sounds like you are just assuming the absolute worse that you can of both of these guys. Why?
You don't know what they are doing and how much time they spend studying. Both guys are always in good shape so why the worry over them going to a club?
This sounds like you are projecting negatives on these guys for no real reason.

 

[HanD]

Goff is in the SB, he didnt play bad in the playoffs, and most players retire around age 30-33 some earlier.
only a few go to late 30s or 40.
your right you can work in the day and then go out .
But for a athlete drinking and just doing whatever you want in off season is not a good thing, if you want to be as good as you can be.
It just depends on if they want to be winners or just make money and play games and maybe they win maybe they dont.

If Goff is in vegas, lol that may show up in SB, Brady is probably studing the film on rams while goff is having a good time.
Lets see how it turns out.

30 is old for club life. Club life is a 20s game.

Goff was in Vegas many times . That picture was in late June. Like training camp time and it didn't impact his performance this season. BTW Dak actually put up better numbers than goff that game. The game was lost in scheme, not by Dak or Zeke.

I disagree on your assertion that athletes need to stay away during the off-season from any partying or drinking. A couple drinks as long as it isn't every night makes no impact on their preparation. You're looking too hard for reason to find fault. A week or two after the season is the perfect time to wind down and recharge before getting back to the grind. Mental and physical rest is important.

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

30 is old for club life. Club life is a 20s game.

Goff was in Vegas many times . That picture was in late June. Like training camp time and it didn't impact his performance this season. BTW Dak actually put up better numbers than goff that game. The game was lost in scheme, not by Dak or Zeke.

I disagree on your assertion that athletes need to stay away during the off-season from any partying or drinking. A couple drinks as long as it isn't every night makes no impact on their preparation. You're looking too hard for reason to find fault. A week or two after the season is the perfect time to wind down and recharge before getting back to the grind. Mental and physical rest is important.

This isn’t a shot at Dak, but he had better numbers than Goff because A.) Rams we’re forcing us to pass because somehow their run defense became good and B.) Their run game (fattie CJ Anderson) was great along with our run defense playing terribly, resulting Goff not needing to throw the ball as much.

 

[HanD]

This isn’t a shot at Dak, but he had better numbers than Goff because A.) Rams we’re forcing us to pass because somehow their run defense became good and B.) Their run game (fattie CJ Anderson) was great along with our run defense playing terribly, resulting Goff not needing to throw the ball as much.

I'm not taking a shot at either guy. The inference from dandydon52 was made that Dak played poorly and goff didnt in that game, hence Dak shouldn't be out after his season is over. Fact is goff threw roughly the same number of times as Dak for less yardage no tds and less completions. They were both sufficient. But to act as if Dak had a bad game and goff had a good game and those were the reasons the Rams won is misleading and blantantly false.

 

[DandyDon52]

Why are you assuming either guy is involved with "Heavy alcohol consumption"?
It sounds like you are just assuming the absolute worse that you can of both of these guys. Why?
You don't know what they are doing and how much time they spend studying. Both guys are always in good shape so why the worry over them going to a club?
This sounds like you are projecting negatives on these guys for no real reason.

I am assuming, it is all speculation, like I said I dont know enough to actually judge them.
Dak seems to be in good shape all the time but not E, he was not in good shape in 2017 , and was better in 2018 , but still nowhere
near what he was in 2016.

I really dont care what they do, but just saying if they want to be better than they were in 2018 they need to work harder than they have
been working.
They wont get better doing the same things, and they wont get any better if they dont work harder.

 

[superonyx]

I am assuming, it is all speculation, like I said I dont know enough to actually judge them.
Dak seems to be in good shape all the time but not E, he was not in good shape in 2017 , and was better in 2018 , but still nowhere
near what he was in 2016.

I really dont care what they do, but just saying if they want to be better than they were in 2018 they need to work harder than they have
been working.
They wont get better doing the same things, and they wont get any better if they dont work harder.

Why speculate such negativity?
Zeke won the rushing title in 2018. He also had 77 catches this season.
Dak had a QB rating of 97 this season and if you look at it after he got a #1 WR it was even more impressive.
Neither guy has shown to be a slacker or someone that is lazy.

I guess I don’t get how a cowboys fan could see a picture of Dak and Zeke being twenty something young men in a club and suddenly ignore the last 17 games you just watched and start speculating that they are unmotivated bums that should be watching Rams film instead of living a normal life on a weekend.

It’s weird.

 

[DandyDon52]

I'm not taking a shot at either guy. The inference from dandydon52 was made that Dak played poorly and goff didnt in that game, hence Dak shouldn't be out after his season is over. Fact is goff threw roughly the same number of times as Dak for less yardage no tds and less completions. They were both sufficient. But to act as if Dak had a bad game and goff had a good game and those were the reasons the Rams won is misleading and blantantly false.

let me explain, Dak played good at times, but like all year , he is up and down, one drive he will be awful, then same next drive,
then out of nowhere, he is hitting passes throwing darts, so his playing bad was not the whole game , just in parts.

I looked at the stats, and dak did do better statistically, but sometimes it is on key plays to keep a drive going or to score
that a qb needs to be good, and that is more important than overall stats for a game.
Also to not make mistakes like take a sack when in FG range, and the sack takes them out of range.

Due to the lame coaches dallas has , Dak needs to be better to overcome the coaching, and to not be the direct cause of
sacks, or killing a drive.

Goff didnt have to be good in that game cause they ran the ball so good, he just had to not make mistakes.
He was a bus driver in that game.

 

[DandyDon52]

Why speculate such negativity?
Zeke won the rushing title in 2018. He also had 77 catches this season.
Dak had a QB rating of 97 this season and if you look at it after he got a #1 WR it was even more impressive.
Neither guy has shown to be a slacker or someone that is lazy.

I guess I don’t get how a cowboys fan could see a picture of Dak and Zeke being twenty something young men in a club and suddenly ignore the last 17 games you just watched and start speculating that they are unmotivated bums that should be watching Rams film instead of living a normal life on a weekend.

It’s weird.

Dallas Rushing
CAR YDS AVG TD LONG
Ezekiel Elliott 20 47 2.3 1 15
Dak Prescott 2 3 1.5 1 2
TEAM 22 50 2.3 2 15

does that look good to you? big game dallas is supposed to be a rushing team .
That is pathetic.
Some is on the coaches but some is on Dak and E.

And it isnt just them being in a club, it is how they played this season, and in the playoffs.
are they a slacker? maybe maybe not, but they seemed to be very ordinary in the playoffs, and that is where good
players step it up, not slack off.

Dallas rush total was pathetic, and if that is the best they can do, they need to work extra hard to get better,
or they will never get past div round.

 

[HanD]

Dallas Rushing
CAR YDS AVG TD LONG
Ezekiel Elliott 20 47 2.3 1 15
Dak Prescott 2 3 1.5 1 2
TEAM 22 50 2.3 2 15

does that look good to you? big game dallas is supposed to be a rushing team .
That is pathetic.
Some is on the coaches but some is on Dak and E.

And it isnt just them being in a club, it is how they played this season, and in the playoffs.
are they a slacker? maybe maybe not, but they seemed to be very ordinary in the playoffs, and that is where good
players step it up, not slack off.

Dallas rush total was pathetic, and if that is the best they can do, they need to work extra hard to get better,
or they will never get past div round.

Zeke had a great game vs the Seahawks and a great year. He carried the team himself until amari got here. The ol was banged up as well. Looney was good but he's no tfred.

I totally get you on Dak being inconsistent and needing to limit mistakes at key times. I couldn't agree more. But I'm hoping he improves that this off-season. He seems to do it when Zeke gets shut down and he feels like he needs to do more. Like Romo used to. I also agree our coaches aren't helping. Maybe linehan gone will improve that.

My only point is I'd criticize them for during the season partying. Right now imo is the perfect time to unwind and rest and recharge before the off-season program and camps start. If there is a time to go out, it is right after the season ends. Guys with families go home and do stuff with wives and kids. Single guys go out. As long as it isn't all hours all the time, the occassional outing is healthy. No human can focus and keep it up all the time without burnout.

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

I am assuming, it is all speculation, like I said I dont know enough to actually judge them.
Dak seems to be in good shape all the time but not E, he was not in good shape in 2017 , and was better in 2018 , but still nowhere
near what he was in 2016.

I really dont care what they do, but just saying if they want to be better than they were in 2018 they need to work harder than they have
been working.
They wont get better doing the same things, and they wont get any better if they dont work harder.

Maybe he’s trying to become like CJ Anderson, who is running up and down on everyone’s defense nowadays