Goff / Wentz / Prescott - after 3 years

[ShortRound]

 

[J12B]

I'm taking Dak.

Hate on me all you want

 

[Denim Chicken]

This should be good.



J/k, I know it's not going to be good

 

[Qcard]

Wow...depends on who is my Coaching Staff lol

 

[Direwolf63]

Here we go............

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

Ready for the incoming comments!

 

[Direwolf63]

If Dak is accused of being a dink and dunker, then Wentz is a dink and dunker extraordinaire.

The difference in games started between the 3 skews the numbers.

Yards per attempt however is apples to apples.

 

[Doomsday77]

Would have lost $$$ on that one. Good for us then. So reading between the lines would suggest if it's not the fault of our QB then who? Coaching staff? Defense? I'm at a loss.

 

[nightrain]

Dak needs to trust his arm and his receivers with the intermediate and deep throws. He has two studs that will go after it.

 

[Roadtrip635]

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Props to Mosher, no game winning drives, no QB Winz and no rushing TDS added to passing TDS to create deception... does the average Dak slobberer even know what the other numbers in this chart even mean?
With Goff’s totals being accomplished in 10 fewer games than Dak, Goff is an easy winner. If you exclude Goff’s numbers as a 22 year old having to take over at midseason for a Jeff Fisher train wreck, Goff has easily lapped the field the last two years.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Dak is the only one of the 3 that walked into the NFL and got to drive a Maserati. He's often driven it like a prius.

What we should be asking is what would Dak have looked like with Jeff Fisher and/or the general the lack of weapons the Eagles/Rams had 3 years ago?

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

Dak needs to trust his arm and his receivers with the intermediate and deep throws. He has two studs that will go after it.

Exactly what I've been saying. He has a strong arm and (obv) needs to work on his accuracy, but how is he supposed to work on his accuracy if they don't let him actually throw the ball deep in game situations. Yes, it may result in more INTS, but it will also result in more TD's. I don't believe Dak or the coaching believes in his arm (accuracy).

 

[gimmesix]

There's some information that makes comparing them side-by-side impossible.

For instance, Goff played in only seven games his first year, so Dak has nine more starts, which skews the passing yards, passing TDs and interception numbers. However, although the TD and passing yards would be higher for him, the overall numbers would likely be worse because he got off to a slow start.

Same with Wentz, he has eight less starts than Dak. An argument could be made, though, about his inability to stay healthy.

Then, there's progression to consider. Goff completed 64.9 percent of his passes this year for 4,688 yards, 32 TDs and 12 interceptions, which is a progression from his second season, which was a step up from his first.

Dak completed 67.7 for 3,885, 22 and 6 which was a progression from the previous year and about even with his first. So the good news for us is that Dak's numbers got back to being right in line with his first season. However, it's hard to say he put up better numbers than Goff considering that Goff clearly was passing more based on almost 1,000 more yards passing. That usually affects your completion percentage and interception and TD numbers.

To blanket put their stats down and just go by that fails to consider multiple factors. However, it is nice to see that Dak returned to his 2016 level statwise when it didn't look like that was possible early in the season.

 

[sacowboysfan513]

With these stats, the main ones i look at is Comp %, Yards/Attempt, and Passer Rating
Passing TD's is not fairly analyzed due to Dak playing more games. Need like a Passing TD's per game stat.
Though the interception # is encouraging. Having the total lowest of the 3 even though he has played more games.

 

[JD_KaPow]

If Dak is accused of being a dink and dunker, then Wentz is a dink and dunker extraordinaire.

The difference in games started between the 3 skews the numbers.

Yards per attempt however is apples to apples.

Except that you also need to look at the progression. In his three seasons, Wentz's ypa has been 6.2, 7.5, 7.7. He made a big step up in all areas after his rookie year.

Dak's ypa has been 8.0, 6.8, 7.4. I still don't know what to think of him.

The big question mark with Wentz is health. If I'm comfortable he can stay healthy, he's my guy, but there's a lot of risk there. I'm glad it's not my decision to make.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Which QB would you trust to hit the broad side of a barn with $10M on the line?

Thanks for playing.

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

Props to Mosher, no game winning drives, no QB Winz and no rushing TDS added to passing TDS to create deception... does the average Dak slobberer even know what the other numbers in this chart even mean?
With Goff’s totals being accomplished in 10 fewer games than Dak, Goff is an easy winner. If you exclude Goff’s numbers as a 22 year old having to take over at midseason for a Jeff Fisher train wreck, Goff has easily lapped the field the last two years.

No one is saying Dak is better than Wentz or Goff. I feel like the comparison is trying to say that Dak isn't that far off. Everyone writes him off as a terrible QB when he isn't really that far off compared to the ones that everyone bashes over.

 

[Tenkamenin]

Last night (If I heard right) Romo said, the Patriots want to prevent Goff from bootlegs and keep him in the pocket to scan the field. As I suspected, Goff doesn't have much between the ears, and it's McVay that is giving him pre-snap assistance.

Wentz had to be reassured by Pederson that he wasn't going to lose his job to Foles. That's sissy like behavior fit for pop-warner and not the Pros. Lastly, Wentz is completing 63% on 7 yards attempt. That's pathetic completion percentage for someone that throws a lot of screens.

Give me Dak all day every day!

 

[CATCH17]

Wentz > Dak > Goff

If I knew Wentz was going to be injury prone going forward then I would take Dak over him because I want a QB I can depend on.

Wentz just has so much more upside then the other 2.

I like Dak over Goff because Dak has the intangibles and can step up in big moments.

Goff has way too many deer in the headlight moments and seems completely dependent on his coach.

If it were flag football then i'd take Goff over both of them because he can throw a nice ball but Wentz and Dak are just better football players then him.

He might have a Matt Ryan type of career down the road but i'm just not a fan of his style and I think he's easily shook.