Clearance Hill: Earl Thomas has no interest in giving the Cowboys a HT discount

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If that's true it's the 2nd leg injury he's off my list regardless.

Just checked it was a hamstring before but the busted leg definitely worries me. I'd make him a mid-level paid safety with incentives and protection against injury.
 

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I'd like to have Thomas, but want to be realistic about who we'd be getting. He's on the wrong side of 30. He has missed games in each of the last 3 seasons, hamstring issues and broken his tibia twice. When he's on the field, he's one of the best, but the last few years he's had problems staying healthy. If he's wanting to be the highest paid S, I'd have to pass.
 

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If I broke my leg twice I guess I’d ask for mo money also....
 

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while we could use an upgrade at safety, a 30 year old with an attitude and busted up whatever he busted up last year doesn't equal upgrade to me. more like paying for a name you've seen do some great things over the years but sooner or later those great things are found in the rear view mirror in as much as the potential left within.

the simple question i ask myself is - will this "addition" overall get us over the top? i see just as many valid reasons to say no as yes which to me, makes it a wash.

move on. sign someone else who wants to play for pay, not has already played for his pay.
 

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I say get someone else. Not like anyone really believed he would take a discount or really even counted on it, but if he is looking to make top rate them find someone else.

Too many other needs right now
 

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Just checked it was a hamstring before but the busted leg definitely worries me. I'd make him a mid-level paid safety with incentives and protection against injury.


Agreed. I like them being aggressive but not stupid. We shall see how it plays out.
 

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Good to see. Obviously, there no shortage of candidates to offer the Cowboys improved play at the safety position. Without a doubt, there should be any number of them most likely to offer their services at a far more affordable amount than what ET has his heart set on. The Cowboys execs are very likely to weigh what the other candidates are likely to expect and decide to grant one a contract more affordable than Earl's obviously excessive demands. Here's hoping the Dallas FO sees fit to protect their best interests and sign someone with far more realistic expectations.
 

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At his age and coming off a serious injury, discount offer is all he's going to get offered!!

He will have a healthy market. Dallas has to come with a respectable offer. If they do, all things being equal, he likely will pick Dallas. If Sammy Watkins got a $14MM offer, which was more than respectable, ET should get a deal offering Top 3 or top 5 money for his position.

It's all about how it is structured.
 

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If he thinks any team will pay him the money he wants for 3-4 years he is nuts considering his injuries the last couple of years...I can see somebody giving him a 1-2 year deal maybe and let him prove he is healthy
 

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That doesn't bother me as much as he's hoping to be NFL highest paid safety. It's interesting if you remove Berry's contract, the highest paid is well below $10M. Either way, the market will have a ton of avail free agents. Maybe the best way to go and forget ET........



EARL THOMASDB, SEATTLE SEAHAWKS

The Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports free agent Earl Thomas has "no interest" in giving the Cowboys a hometown discount.
Thomas has been stumping to play for his home-state team for years, but he wants to be properly compensated to do so. That is probably especially true after last year's injury debacle. Per reporter Clarence Hill, Thomas currently maintains hope of becoming the "highest paid safety in the NFL." That could be tough seeing as he's going on 30 and coming off major injury. Eric Berry maintains current honors at $13 million per year.

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SOURCE: Fort Worth Star-Telegram
Feb 28, 2019, 7:22 PM
good Ive got a special finger just for him... we dont need him bad enough to overpay for player his age on a last contract..itrs how Salary Caps get blown for years..there are 6 FA Safetys 3 top ones that can help.. LC, Honey Badger, and ET..there are others but those are top 3..we have options..plus the draft
 

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That doesn't bother me as much as he's hoping to be NFL highest paid safety. It's interesting if you remove Berry's contract, the highest paid is well below $10M. Either way, the market will have a ton of avail free agents. Maybe the best way to go and forget ET........



EARL THOMASDB, SEATTLE SEAHAWKS

The Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports free agent Earl Thomas has "no interest" in giving the Cowboys a hometown discount.
Thomas has been stumping to play for his home-state team for years, but he wants to be properly compensated to do so. That is probably especially true after last year's injury debacle. Per reporter Clarence Hill, Thomas currently maintains hope of becoming the "highest paid safety in the NFL." That could be tough seeing as he's going on 30 and coming off major injury. Eric Berry maintains current honors at $13 million per year.

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SOURCE: Fort Worth Star-Telegram
Feb 28, 2019, 7:22 PM

He’s a goner
 

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Again everyone worried about the $$ and understand why but we just have to look at the facts of the situation and what the front office is doing to see where we are going. Fact one, everyone knows Earl wants to play in Dallas, second, he moved his family to Austin and enrolled the kids in school there, third, he has been seen a number of times working out with Lawrence and Jaylon Smith, fourth, Stephen met with his agents in Indy yesterday and no mention of Stephen meeting with any other safety agent, fifth, the front office is trying to put the best team they can on the field for 2019 and have said that S, TE, and DL are three of the top five needs.

So yesterday they convinced Witten to come out of retirement which gives you a great Y option, leadership on and off the field, a valuable piece for an outlet for Dak, better redzone offense, another coach for the young TEs, and solves part of a need. No, it does not mean Dallas will not sign a TE in free agency nor will it make it unlikely to draft a TE. I still believe that Tyler Eifert could very well become a Cowboy for similar money that Witten is getting and if healthy and stays that way gives you another great option. Now what does it mean for Jarwin, Schultz and Gathers? It gives all of them time to develop. I know most are ruling out Gathers but not going to do that just yet. If we draft another TE then it does make Jarwin a trade piece for a late round choice though.

What does Earl bring? All the same things that Witten does but on defense. He will make the defense much better from all points. His contract is not that much of a sticking point as we are led to believe. Dallas could easily give him a 5 year $60 million contract with $30 million in guarantees and not hurt any of the other signing or extensions they ARE going to do this offseason. Like it or not, Thomas is destined to be a Cowboy.

Fairly certain we will see Lawrence and the Cowboys come to terms on a new contract well before March 13th and would not be surprised to see extensions for Prescott and Cooper come before that also. If anyone thinks they are not talking with the agents for Prescott, Elliott, Cooper and Jones already then you are living under a rock. The larger question for me is will Dallas dip into the DE market in free agency for a better than backup option. Will Dallas make a play for Fowler or Harold or Flowers if they aren't resigned first. Sure I would like to see a good DT also but how long have we been waiting on that one, probably going to draft a guy again.
 

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3 year 30mil deal is all I'd offer and it is more than fair with injury clauses built into contract.
 

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That doesn't bother me as much as he's hoping to be NFL highest paid safety. It's interesting if you remove Berry's contract, the highest paid is well below $10M. Either way, the market will have a ton of avail free agents. Maybe the best way to go and forget ET........



EARL THOMASDB, SEATTLE SEAHAWKS

The Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports free agent Earl Thomas has "no interest" in giving the Cowboys a hometown discount.
Thomas has been stumping to play for his home-state team for years, but he wants to be properly compensated to do so. That is probably especially true after last year's injury debacle. Per reporter Clarence Hill, Thomas currently maintains hope of becoming the "highest paid safety in the NFL." That could be tough seeing as he's going on 30 and coming off major injury. Eric Berry maintains current honors at $13 million per year.

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SOURCE: Fort Worth Star-Telegram
Feb 28, 2019, 7:22 PM
Why take a discount? Go get that $$$ while you can
 
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