Tanks seeks 22.5, Cowboys offer 20

[blueblood70]

They offered him $17MM initially. Just upped it.

FO low balled him and now he's high balling, lol. That's how negotiations work.

its funny when its not your 17mil how easy to call it a low ball, theres always a starting point , the middle was 19 and thats where ive been and IMO VERY Fair..20 is the final number..i bet they dont budge and we dont know all the facts , like escalators, bonus' , and guaranteed money etc..the language of the contract is just as important.we will never know the details..

dude has yet top have surgery, I would have FT him and offered 17 as well..he may not now be available for the first 4-6 weeks of the season and that on him..paying hardball was stupid, even if you wanted trade and or more money the surgery would have showed your commitment and that you would be ready for TC or preseason game 3..now hes not it was bad move IMO..

look im out I made my opinions and points and this isnt football.. ill support the 53 wearing the star this year regardless of who it is, watching foortball is my thing not arguing contracts and whos coming or going.. let it work out and we can debate it game 1-16..

 

[JoeKing]

I understand your viewpoint but I think its a bit antiquated. Player salaries and ownership revenue is tied to the TV, Media, sponsorship deals the league makes.
At the end of the day why even complain what a team spends on player salaries? There is a salary cap for a reason. Tank making 22 vs 20 will have zero impact on how much you pay for seats, parking, concessions. Do you think the Cowboys have such slim margins for profitability that paying 2 million extra will have that sort of impact? I don't have the numbers but I'm sure the Cowboys turn a very very large profit every year. And I'm very happy they do. Jerry took a risk in 1989 buying the Cowboys. I know he was leveraged out his ears. I'm for players and owners making money. Owners just have this stupid narrative they push when players hold out for money, not just NFL owners all sports owners. Let the market determine the value of the players. Owners love the Franchise Tag, Salary cap.

You just don't get it. If I want to fantasize about how my investment in this team effects everything else then I will do so and if it motivates me to stay active in my golden years then I will do so. Don't give that speech to me ever again, I'm not hearing it even if it is anchored in reality.

 

[tyke1doe]

So make it $21m and call it a day.

If the numbers are true this will absolutely get done.

That's what I'm thinking too. They're just two million apart? Split the difference and call it a day.
This will get done quick, fast and a hurry.

 

[Denim Chicken]

its funny when its not your 17mil how easy to call it a low ball, theres always a starting point

How is that starting point going to be lower than what the Tag pays? That is the floor. Also, $17MM is the same money as Vernon, Flowers, & Za'Darius Smith when Lawrence is on anther tier.

 

[J_Allen]

I'm for trading him.

 

[Denim Chicken]

You guys are missing the point. Originally Tank wanted 20 million a year. After Dallas agreed, Tanks agent upped it to 22 million. Sorry but i don't like that and while i hate to lose him im trading him to buffalo

Front office initially offered $17MM, if they would have offered $20MM initially we'd probably have a deal.

 

[Diehardblues]

I'm sure you don't, I am concerned as well about the DL and over the last 8 games of the season when the team was actually winning game DLaw impact was minimal he had 2.5 sacks over our last 8 games so lets not act as if his play was great it wasn't and clearly not to that level. I think Dallas has been fair in their offer which would make him the highest paid DE in the NFL. He can take it or leave as far as I am concerned.

His double teams allows for others to make plays. He’s our only Pro Bowler on the DL. If you don’t think we’ll miss him then let him go. Obviously the Cowboys value him or they wouldn’t have Tagged him again.

For some reason we have a Homeristic view from a group of fans who actually stand by this front office despite our history of getting cheap at the wrong time. Lol

 

[Alexander]

They offered him $17MM initially. Just upped it.

FO low balled him and now he's high balling, lol. That's how negotiations work.

The fact they offered to make him the highest paid DE in the league, that would be the line in the sand final offer.

Give him a deadline that tolls prior to the draft and then try to work a trade.

If not, then he can rot on the tag until July and even sit out if he wants to.

This is a game-changer as far as I am concerned. Swing the Quinn deal regardless.

No way I am paying him more than Watt, Miller or especially Mack.

 

[Sydla]

Front office initially offered $17MM, if they would have offered $20MM initially we'd probably have a deal.

So let me get this straight.

Lawrence wanted $20MM. He was initially offered $17MM. So now that he finally has his $20MM he's going penalize the Cowboys and demand more now?

You do realize that doesn't make Lawrence or his agent look good, right?

 

[Dalmations202]

Tank, IMO, should be considered a top 5 DE. With this said, avg the top 5 DE's, Offer him this amount with 5% increases each year. Take it or leave it. Wait till late and pull the franchise tag leaving him free without anyone having the money and let him get his own surgery and work done. Maybe he will be fine after that, but teams will back off a great offer when they can't get him injury free, and don't know how well the surgery will go. Adds another year to his age and less football being played which will lower his value again.

He is a pro bowler..........not an all-pro that some here are making him out to be.

 

[G2]

How is that starting point going to be lower than what the Tag pays? That is the floor. Also, $17MM is the same money as Vernon, Flowers, & Za'Darius Smith when Lawrence is on anther tier.

But he's not on another tier. He should be getting just under $20.

 

[Nightman]

He wants more money but his production went down

Is it too much to ask if you sign a 17m deal that your numbers go up

If we pay him 20m the sycophants will explain how 8 sacks are better than 20

 

[Alexander]

we dont know all the facts

True, we don't. This could just be something that is leaked to get public opinion behind the team.

He is definitely not a player worth wrecking your cap over and this is pretty close to doing that.

 

[Denim Chicken]

The fact they offered to make him the highest paid DE in the league, that would be the line in the sand final offer.

Give him a deadline that tolls prior to the draft and then try to work a trade.

If not, then he can rot on the tag until July and even sit out if he wants to.

This is a game-changer as far as I am concerned. Swing the Quinn deal regardless.

No way I am paying him more than Watt, Miller or especially Mack.

He's definitely getting more that Watt. Watt at like $16

 

[Sydla]

The fact they offered to make him the highest paid DE in the league, that would be the line in the sand final offer.

Give him a deadline that tolls prior to the draft and then try to work a trade.

If not, then he can rot on the tag until July and even sit out if he wants to.

This is a game-changer as far as I am concerned. Swing the Quinn deal regardless.

No way I am paying him more than Watt, Miller or especially Mack.

It would be great if we could trade for Quinn and sign Ansah using some of Lawrence's money and then trade Lawrence. But the timing won't work out as long as Lawrence refuses to sign the tag.

But I am not opposed to calling his bluff on not signing the tag and sitting out a full year. It's only going to hurt him.

 

[G2]

Tank, IMO, should be considered a top 5 DE. With this said, avg the top 5 DE's, Offer him this amount with 5% increases each year. Take it or leave it. Wait till late and pull the franchise tag leaving him free without anyone having the money and let him get his own surgery and work done. Maybe he will be fine after that, but teams will back off a great offer when they can't get him injury free, and don't know how well the surgery will go. Adds another year to his age and less football being played which will lower his value again.

He is a pro bowler..........not an all-pro that some here are making him out to be.

He's out of the top 5. Many have him ranked 7th to 10th. Which is great, but not top 5 elite great.

 

[Alexander]

He's definitely getting more that Watt. Watt at like $16

This is just a shade below Mack and above Miller.

Kind of laughable that Lawrence would turn it down actually.

The Mack trade hurt Oakland temporarily and moving him would leave Dallas in a bad position.

But you do have to consider the reality of wrecking your cap over an end. Particularly if their design is to pay the QB, pay the WR and pay the RB.

Lawrence is not a sacrifice quality player. He just isn't.

 

[Whyjerry]

Ugh

 

[Doomsday101]

His double teams allows for others to make plays. He’s our only Pro Bowler on the DL. If you don’t think we’ll miss him then let him go. Obviously the Cowboys value him or they wouldn’t have Tagged him again.

For some reason we have a Homeristic view from a group of fans who actually stand by this front office despite our history of getting cheap at the wrong time. Lol

Dallas does value him they would not be offering 20 mill a year deal if they didn't and his response to it was ok I want 22 million now. As for a history of cheap? LOL Frederick deal was not cheap, Zack Martin deal not cheap, Tyron Smith deal was not cheap, Dez Bryant deal was not cheap. In each instance these players were paid either top money or within the top 3 in the NFL. Dallas does not spend big in FA but they have taken care of their own. The deal they offer up at least if report is true makes DLaw the highest paid DE so don't hand me that non sense of Dallas being cheap because that is a load of BS.

 

[jjktkk]

Yea, we’re talking about 10% overpaid. To save a total collapse on our DL.

And start a bad precedent of giving in to free agent players demands.