My Case For Deebo Samuel

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Of course he deserves some blame, but how much?

7 Games Before Cooper:
202 YDS/G
8 PTD
4 INT
62% CMP%
6.9 YDS/A
87.4 PR
43% WIN%

9 Games After Cooper:
274 YDS/G
14 PTD
4 INT
71% CMP%
7.7 YDS/A
103.0 PR
78% WIN%

As soon as we gave Dak a competent receiver he became one of the best, most consistent, most winningest QBs in the league. Why shouldn’t we believe giving him Deebo at his favorite position to throw to won’t yield similar results?

Sure Cooper helped, but looking big picture last year Dak was solid, but was playing at an average level.

And I’m not saying I’m against adding a slot WR, just not at 58. Again, you can get some of the best slot WRs in the draft outside of the top 100.
 

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My feeling is that if Deebo Samuel is available at 58, he very well may be the best player available. I think that the Cowboys are considering him and it is a good idea because the wr position is loaded in this draft and they have tremendous value at pick 58. Samuel is much more than a slot receiver, and he is probably the best slot receiver in the draft. He can also play outside and he would be an excellent kick off return man. He may be the best run after the catch guy in the draft. He runs like a running back and can be used as a run from scrimmage guy as well. He has the ability to score from anywhere on the field. He would give the Cowboys another big play receiver that would work with Dak for years to come. Nothing wrong with having Cooper, Gallup, and Samuel working with Dak for multiple seasons. Deebo Samuel may be well worth the pick at 58.
 

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Something that they could possibly do is take Samuel at 58 and package pick 90 with some other picks to move up and take a safety like Savage and then take a running back with a remaining 4th round pick, maybe Williams from A&M.
 

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Something that they could possibly do is take Samuel at 58 and package pick 90 with some other picks to move up and take a safety like Savage and then take a running back with a remaining 4th round pick, maybe Williams from A&M.
That's the strategy I would use. I love all three of the players you're suggesting.
 

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My feeling is that if Deebo Samuel is available at 58, he very well may be the best player available. I think that the Cowboys are considering him and it is a good idea because the wr position is loaded in this draft and they have tremendous value at pick 58. Samuel is much more than a slot receiver, and he is probably the best slot receiver in the draft. He can also play outside and he would be an excellent kick off return man. He may be the best run after the catch guy in the draft. He runs like a running back and can be used as a run from scrimmage guy as well. He has the ability to score from anywhere on the field. He would give the Cowboys another big play receiver that would work with Dak for years to come. Nothing wrong with having Cooper, Gallup, and Samuel working with Dak for multiple seasons. Deebo Samuel may be well worth the pick at 58.

Samuel is 5’11 with a limited catch radius.

I think he can give you snaps outside, but I think he’ll struggle outside at the next level and will be best suited staying inside.
 

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IMO, Dak is the kind of QB who plays to the sum of the parts around him. It'd be a good idea to keep his supporting cast well stocked.

A slot WR in the second is kind of rich, but I'm not writing the position off entirely. If Deebo's BPA then I'm all for it.
 

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I'm not drafting a guy who turns 24 in his rookie year, especially one who is only going to get 2-3 touches per game.

I'd be fine with a WR at 58, in theory, but Deebo ain't it.
 

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(I’d love to make a case for the 6’5”, 227 lbs, 4.48 40 time Hakeem Butler, but since the Cowboys haven’t shown any interest that I’m aware of, I’ll keep the conversation about my other pet cat, Deebo Samuel.)

Deebo, the player

For me, debating players isn’t all that interesting. You’ll either agree with me that Deebo is a very good receiver, or you won’t. There won’t be anything I can show or tell you that will change your mind. That’s why I find philosophical debates to be far more entertaining. But for reference, just know I’m high on Deebo because his hands are great, he has the body control to make contested catches, he’s a solid route runner with explosive football speed, he’s very difficult to bring down after the catch, and he plays with a dawg mentality.

Receiver vs Safety

Right off the bat, I know the first holdup for many people is the need at safety. I don’t believe Jeff Heath should be a starter either, but to keep it in perspective, the safety position didn’t cost the team any games last year, receiver consistently was. The Cooper trade obviously did a great deal to alleviate the issue, but the offense still had its share of putrid performances even after he arrived.

Before Cooper:
8 @ Carolina
20 vs New York
13 @ Seattle
16 vs Houston
17 @ Washington

After Cooper:
14 vs Tennessee
22 @ Atlanta
13 vs New Orleans
0 @ Indianapolis
22 @ Los Angeles

Offense vs Defense

So, which unit has more pressing needs, offense or defense? The general consensus among the fans and around the league last year was Dallas had one of the best defenses in the NFL, top five to many, and they were carrying the offense for a great majority of the season. Even in the seven games they lost, the defense still held the opponents to 16, 24, 19 (OT), 20, 28, 23, and 30 points. An average offense would have won at least four of those.

Dallas’ Offense:
22nd in PTS/G
22nd in YDS/G
23rd in PYDS/G
10th in RYDS/G

Dallas’ Defense:
6th in PTS/G
7th in YDS/G
13th PYDS/G
5th in RYDS/G

“Defense Wins Championships”

Last year, the defense was top 10, the offense was bottom 10. Those numbers look even uglier with context as we’re in an offensive-driven league. We’re in the era of elite QB play and explosive, dynamic offenses. Defenses winning championships has become the very rare exception, not the rule. Look at the Broncos, Bucs and Ravens. It’s not a coincidence that the truly elite defenses that do win a championship once every blue moon are never again serious contenders after that. It goes completely upagainst the grain to rely on your defense. In today’s NFL, it behooves you to overload your QB with weapons and make your offense as dangerous as possible. It’s as easy as asking yourself, do you feel more comfortable betting on the Bears, Ravens or Jaguars to win the Super Bowl, or you taking the Chiefs, Rams or Patriots to win it all? I want Dallas in that last group of teams.

Drafting a “slot receiver” at 58

For the sake of argument, let’s say Cooper & Gallup never suffer an injury, nor need a breather, and our coaches are small minded enough to limit Deebo to only being a slot receiver...he’s still worth the pick. Beasley’s jump in production with Dak at QB just shows how important the position is to him. The problem Beasley presented is he was a very limited player. He didn’t offer much of anything past his handful of underneath routes. What he did do, he did well, but he wasn’t explosive enough to attack the field on deep or intermediate routes, and he wasn’t physical enough to make contested catches or lineup on the outside. If defenses wanted to key in on him, it was fairly easy to take him away. You wouldn’t have that problem with Deebo. He adds an explosive element to the middle of the field that not only drastically helps the passing game, but the run as well. It would be almost impossible to stack the box against Zeke because defenses would have to respect Deebo. Many fans have been begging for that from the TE position but a dynamic slot receiver would have the same effect. Our offense would instantly be a lot less predictable and uncreative on that alone. And as an added bonus, Deebo can just as easily play the outside if need be. If you wanted to move Cooper or Gallup to the slot, you’d have no problem doing so. We weren’t able to do that with Beasley.

Randall Cobb & Tavon Austin

Drafting Deebo instantly makes Tavon expendable. He’d even replace him as the returner and be much better suited for the jet sweeps they still want to run. It’s Cobb that offers a lot of what Deebo does, but he’s a stop-gap player. He’ll almost certainly be gone next season. It’s more than likely Deebo wouldn’t see a lot of playing time to start the year, but I’d expect him to eventually take over as the starter just as Gallup did to Hurns. At the very least, we’d have the receiver position solidified for years to come with Cooper, Gallup and Samuel, and if you’re of the belief that receivers take a year or more to acclimate themselves to the NFL, that’s the ideal situation for you.

BPA

If Deebo for some reason makes it to 58, I don’t think there should be any hesitation from the front office to take him. He would in all likelihood be the best player available and would eventually silence a lot of our long-term criticisms towards the offense. But for those completely against the idea, you’ll probably be relieved to know I don’t at all expect the team to go this direction. I think the pick will almost certainly be a safety, probably Thornhill. I would just go a different direction is all. My 2¢ ✌️
I am with you on this.

Austin is unproven and injury prone as is Cobb.

Cobb I am hopeful will play well but his best days were with Rodgers.

Meaning with Dak, who is not as accurate..who knows.

Deebo returns kicks also so we have to replace Beasley and returning punts.

I run to the podium if he is still available.

I just do not see him falling that far. I understand NE wants him pretty bad for Brady.

 
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Best player available!

Love Deebo, so I wouldn’t hate the pick!
 

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WR vs. CB 1 on 1 drills are always a thrill to watch. These are the vids that put the icing on the cake for me. Deebo eviscerates top competition in Senior Bowl 1 on 1's.



3 reps in this video. All vs. Rock Ya-Sin
1st play: Turns Ya-Sin around on a slant, but Ya-Sin makes a nice recovery on the play to get the PD.
2nd play. Deebo beats Ya-Sin on a go route. That boy fast.
3rd play. Deebo goes back to the slant route, turns Ya-Sin around once again, and makes an easy catch this time around.



1st play: Ball is overthrown on a fade route. Would've been tightly contested.
2nd play: Got off Lonnie Johnson's press for easy separation on a slant for a would be TD, but the play called for him to run a jerk route.
3rd play: 3:00 mark. Another jerk route. Completely undresses Isaiah Johnson.


He can create separation like Beasley. But unlike Beasley, he's 1) a threat to beat you deep 2) has great YAC ability with his compact frame 3) Can line up in the slot OR outside and 4) is an actual threat in the return game.

If all the safeties are gone, this would be a home run pick.
 

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I was just thinking something along these lines. If Deebo is significantly the best player available at 58 vs a player at a position of need you take him. Everyone wants to draft based on position of need, but the NFL is a talent acquisition league and whether he starts this year or not there will be a hole to fill next year, and honestly speaking there will be injuries it's just how the game goes. As far as him being a slot WR only I do not agree with he can play both inside and outside so there is versatility there.

Jace Sternberger I would put in the same discussion as will he start this year, probably not to start the season but he is a guy who could be a top TE in the league and if his reign starts in 2020 again you will have a hole there in a year and that's one less position to worry about come 2020.

The draft is all about acquiring talent, and if an offensive guy whether it be WR or TE if they are the best guys available you need to stay true to your board because your roster changes every year whether it be injuries, retirement, drop in play, and more importantly free agency you will have players to fill holes that have been become open for whatever reason.

I've been trying to force a DT or a DB at 58 and 90, but tonight I was thinking this is something I have never done so why start now. Go get the most talented players, and worry about filling the remaining holes with who is left in FA or wait until the next few waves of cuts happen where you can get a Suh, or potentially a Gerald McCoy on 1-year deals. But I'm not going to reach because that's how you become the Giants who get players who aren't earning their paychecks, and guys the team is sick about hearing how that was a busted pick so they cut them.

Talented players will be there, and the Cowboys have shown they can find them so stick to the boards and go get the best guys available.
 

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I was just thinking something along these lines. If Deebo is significantly the best player available at 58 vs a player at a position of need you take him. Everyone wants to draft based on position of need, but the NFL is a talent acquisition league and whether he starts this year or not there will be a hole to fill next year, and honestly speaking there will be injuries it's just how the game goes. As far as him being a slot WR only I do not agree with he can play both inside and outside so there is versatility there.

Jace Sternberger I would put in the same discussion as will he start this year, probably not to start the season but he is a guy who could be a top TE in the league and if his reign starts in 2020 again you will have a hole there in a year and that's one less position to worry about come 2020.

The draft is all about acquiring talent, and if an offensive guy whether it be WR or TE if they are the best guys available you need to stay true to your board because your roster changes every year whether it be injuries, retirement, drop in play, and more importantly free agency you will have players to fill holes that have been become open for whatever reason.

I've been trying to force a DT or a DB at 58 and 90, but tonight I was thinking this is something I have never done so why start now. Go get the most talented players, and worry about filling the remaining holes with who is left in FA or wait until the next few waves of cuts happen where you can get a Suh, or potentially a Gerald McCoy on 1-year deals. But I'm not going to reach because that's how you become the Giants who get players who aren't earning their paychecks, and guys the team is sick about hearing how that was a busted pick so they cut them.

Talented players will be there, and the Cowboys have shown they can find them so stick to the boards and go get the best guys available.

If he’s significantly better, yes I take him.

If it’s close, I lean towards need.

Some of the names I’m hearing are making me want to throw up. I’d rather have Deebo than Hill, Allen, and basically any TE, CB or RB that will be there.

I just find it really hard to believe that a quality S or DL player won’t be there that I’d rather have. Time will tell.
 

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If the Safeties are wiped out and the DL available are reaches at 58, I have no problem taking a WR who will be a starter(3WR) in 2020. And who knows, maybe sooner with Cobbs recent injury history. The worst thing we can do is reach for a position when much better players are still on board.
 

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Something that they could possibly do is take Samuel at 58 and package pick 90 with some other picks to move up and take a safety like Savage and then take a running back with a remaining 4th round pick, maybe Williams from A&M.

If you’re moving up to get Savage, you’re losing 58.

Savage is picking up late first early second steam
 

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Love this idea.

Offense was a problem last year. Our main problem.

Adding another weapon to this receiver group would make them outstanding.
 

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If you’re moving up to get Savage, you’re losing 58.

Savage is picking up late first early second steam

Somebody has to fall then. We keep hearing about risers so maybe Simmons falls within reach LOL.
 

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Here's my selling point; you can A) draft Deebo Samuel in the second round and get a second round talent or B) draft Joejuan Williams, Trysten Hill, or Zach Allen and immediately drop to late third to late fourth round value because you value scheme fit over talent.
 

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Sure Cooper helped, but looking big picture last year Dak was solid, but was playing at an average level.

And I’m not saying I’m against adding a slot WR, just not at 58. Again, you can get some of the best slot WRs in the draft outside of the top 100.

Cowboys just got Cobb, let's see what he can do before we spend our only halfway decent draft pick on yet another wide receiver, much bigger needs on this team...
 

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Here's my selling point; you can A) draft Deebo Samuel in the second round and get a second round talent or B) draft Joejuan Williams, Trysten Hill, or Zach Allen and immediately drop to late third to late fourth round value because you value scheme fit over talent.
Or they could draft one of the 30 other players with 2nd-round value?
 
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