In The 1st Round of the 2019 NFL Draft The Dallas Cowboys Select Amari Cooper

[GenoT]

While quite happy with how the Amari deal worked for us, it will be interesting to see who’s available when the Raiders use our traded first-round pick tonight.

 

[HungryLion]

Weird he's the only one though

Yeah it’s one of this anomalies that is kind of interesting. All bias aside I do think he was deserving of the awards though. Recognizing that pro bowl selection is a flawed system itself.

 

[Rockport]

One could argue trading for Cooper is instant gratification.

One could argue any trade, free agent pickup or draft pick is. Jeez the ignorance.

 

[Vintage]

One could argue any trade, free agent pickup or draft pick is. Jeez the ignorance.

If you can’t figure out how a mid season trade for a player instead of drafting and developing a guy isn’t the same instant gratification you supposedly decry, my apologies.

Damn, the ignorance....

 

[Trueboysfan]

I will be honest...at first I wasnt too happy about the trade because it seemed like Dallas was reaching for a guy that was on a downward trend and because they didnt ha e a good track record with recievers in the past. That all changed after talking with a good buddy who is a huge raiders fan. He said the only reason Amari's numbers fell was because of the injuries to Carr and we just got the best pick in the draft. Then after the first couple of games I think we all agreed with the trade. No doubt the best pick in the 2019 draft goes to the Dallas Cowboys! Cant wait to see who Dallas selects with the second rd pick tonight!

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Instant gratification is a milineal thing I guess.

Yes because instant gratification began 30 years ago.

 

[Nightman]

.....and are paying him 100M over the next 5 years instead of 15M.

so

 

[Toruk_Makto]

so

So that plays into the calculation. The value of the draft isn't just acquiring talent. It's acquiring cheap talent that let's you spend elsewhere. Obviously.

 

[Nightman]

Odell signed a 5 year 100MM. That will be 2 years old when Amari signs next year.

If Amari doesn't deserve that type of contract after this coming season.....what does that say?

It was 5/90m and he immediately got traded

ARI owes him 5/77m

ABrown just got 3/51m
ATheilen got 4/64m extension

 

[Nightman]

So that plays into the calculation. The value of the draft isn't just acquiring talent. It's acquiring cheap talent that let's you spend elsewhere. Obviously.

We have 85m in cap space for next year and 20m right now

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

We have 85m in cap space for next year and 20m right now

How does this inform an argument over whether Coop’s cap charge (over the next 4 years) should be factored into any evaluation of how he compares to 2019 first round picks? It clearly does, no matter how much cap space the team has available this year and next.

 

[Nightman]

How does this inform an argument over whether Coop’s cap charge (over the next 4 years) should be factored into any evaluation of how he compares to 2019 first round picks? It clearly does, no matter how much cap space the team has available this year and next.

It matters because we have the space and knew he had the space when we made the trade

Sometimes the cost is draft picks, sometimes the cost is money and sometimes the cost is both

This time it was both but we got a perfect player for our team.... he already played and produced last year, something no 2019 Draft pick could do for us

You don't whine about the cost of luxury items when you can afford it

 

[Nightman]

So that plays into the calculation. The value of the draft isn't just acquiring talent. It's acquiring cheap talent that let's you spend elsewhere. Obviously.

So we got him for 2yr/15m instead of 4/23m

And no one we got at 28 was going to be nearly as good as ACooper.... so it would cost multiple 1sts to move up into the Top 5..... not just one like we spent

AND not one WR went in the 1st round until very late so that difference maker, complete WR unicorn didn't even exist this year

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

It matters because we have the space and knew he had the space when we made the trade

Sometimes the cost is draft picks, sometimes the cost is money and sometimes the cost is both

This time it was both but we got a perfect player for our team.... he already played and produced last year, something no 2019 Draft pick could do for us

You don't whine about the cost of luxury items when you can afford it

I love Coop. He was, as you suggest, the perfect player for us. Exactly what Dak needed. I'd be happy to see the team make the same trade again.

But we paid, as you also suggest, luxury rate for him. A first plus (the hidden cost) 4 years of significant cap space. That should be factored into any comparison between he and another player we could have acquired in the first round had we not made the trade.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

So we got him for 2yr/15m instead of 4/23m

And no one we got at 28 was going to be nearly as good as ACooper.... so it would cost multiple 1sts to move up into the Top 5..... not just one like we spent

AND not one WR went in the 1st round until very late so that difference maker, complete WR unicorn didn't even exist this year

I am not saying the trade was bad. I am saying it isn't as straightforward as presented in this thread.

Please try and follow along.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

We have 85m in cap space for next year and 20m right now

So?

Cap space is finite. Anything not used is saved.

 

[blueblood70]

It was 5/90m and he immediately got traded

ARI owes him 5/77m

ABrown just got 3/51m
ATheilen got 4/64m extension

he did NOT get Immediately traded he played like what 10 games last year for like 21 mil he was owed got traded this off season and some bonus still owed..if he was going to eb traded the signing was dumb, they should have traded him last off season but the NY giants GM is ******..first they are cleaning house to rebuild then they add older players, keep eli trade their best WR and now draft project QB and a risky CB all reaches..DL pick looks good on paper but if I remember correctly he has some health issues lower leg on big dude is risk..

 

[Rockport]

Yes because instant gratification began 30 years ago.

? So dumb

 

[Nightman]

he did NOT get Immediately traded he played like what 10 games last year for like 21 mil he was owed got traded this off season and some bonus still owed..if he was going to eb traded the signing was dumb, they should have traded him last off season but the NY giants GM is ******..first they are cleaning house to rebuild then they add older players, keep eli trade their best WR and now draft project QB and a risky CB all reaches..DL pick looks good on paper but if I remember correctly he has some health issues lower leg on big dude is risk..

He got traded before the extension even started and what 5/90m turned into 5/77m for ARI because NY ate so much just to trade him

 

[Nightman]

So?

Cap space is finite. Anything not used is saved.

Any space not created is wasted..... the cap is just cover for cheap owners