Dak Prescott QB rating under pressure

[PJTHEDOORS]

Hey hey, leave ole Tony outta this


He played one year with a line like this and he led the league in QB rating in both regular season and playoffs. The line and a great year by Murray were huge though

Tony had better pass blocking up front than Dak's protection last 2 years.

 

[DFWJC]

Tony had better pass blocking up front than Dak's protection last 2 years.

Certainly not in this horris 8-8 years.
Those lines were total turnstiles, as were the defenses and run games

 

[Melonfeud]

Stop trying to discredit facts, troll. Get out.

* dude,,,are you ever if EVER 180° off track in that casted TROLL labelling

 

[percyhoward]

No Brady, Brees, Mahomes, Rodgers, Rivers, Rothelisberger....

Top 20 in passer rating when kept clean, with ranking when pressured.

1 Mahomes 18
2 Brees 8
3 Wilson 4
4 Goff 24
5 Ryan 3
6 Rivers 6
7 Watson 1
8 Newton 30
9 Wentz 10
10 Rodgers 21
11 Cousins 7
12 Luck 15
13 Roethlisberger 23
14 Brady 17
15 Carr 25
16 Manning 19
17 Prescott 2
18 Tannehill 13
19 Trubisky 9
20 Mayfield 14

Prescott's ranking of 17th when kept clean is misleading. In the games before the trade for Cooper, Dak's 91.4 rating when kept clean ranked 26th. In the games after Cooper's arrival, Dak's 106.9 rating when kept clean ranked 10th.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Certainly not in this horris 8-8 years.
Those lines were total turnstiles, as were the defenses and run games

Dak's pass blocking has been near bottom of league. At least Romo had a prime Witten to bail him out.

 

[mattjames2010]

PFF's graphics rarely give much of any detail - better to link if they post an article on it.

 

[85Cowboy85]

He also has one of the worst sack rates in the league overall, and led the league in sacks that he was responsible for according to PFF.

 

[Melonfeud]

Dak's pass blocking has been near bottom of league. At least Romo had a prime Witten to bail him out.

,,,er,,,Jim?,,,don't be replanting those goalposts

 

[mattjames2010]

I think there is something to be said about the scrambling here - I wonder how much emphasis PFF puts on QBs getting out of the pocket once under pressure and making a play.

The problem here is, one criticism is that of Wilson, holding the ball too long until more pressure is there. Though, if this was the case, Rodgers would also be on the list - I would like to see where he ranked.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Nothing will change the minds of the anti-Dak group.

No statistic, no number of wins, no number of fourth quarter comebacks, nothing. They have a predetermined opinion of him, and a predetermined idea of what a franchise quarterback should look like and should play like. To them, Dak is a Tim Tebow-ish schlub that can't throw a football.

I doubt even a Super Bowl victory would change people's minds, and it's unfortunate. The 2000-2005 seasons are still fresh in my memory bank. We should be thanking the football gods for Dak given the way Romo's body broke down on him so quickly. This team could have gone through several seasons of never-will-bes like Anthony Wright, Quincy Carter, and Chad Hutchinson or has-beens like Vinny Testaverde and Drew Bledsoe all over again.

Maybe if we take the time to appreciate what Dak is- and that's a winner- instead of trying to pit him in an accuracy contest with Drew Brees all the time it might help.

But, again, I cannot change the anti-Dak agenda. I'm totally staying out of it once the Cowboys give him a new deal.

 

[Corso]

You’re trying to eliminate discussion on an entire community? I have no doubt Dak is proud of his heritage, despite what you’re trying to convey here.

How about I just eliminate discussion with you.
I'm sure you'll be better for it.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Dak's pass blocking has been near bottom of league. At least Romo had a prime Witten to bail him out.

Very, very true. If you believe Pro Football Focus, 41 of the 56 sacks Dallas allowed last season were not Dak's fault.

 

[percyhoward]

But if you could only have one...

Actually, I’d like see some analysis. I wonder if it’s possible that, notwithstanding our instinct that you want a guy that’s clutch under pressure, you actually do better overall with a guy who is less good under pressure but performs more efficiently under the more common low pressure situation. Do you have any insight, Percy?

If you could only have one, you'd obviously take the guy who ranks higher when kept clean, because that's 2/3 of your dropbacks.

But it's important to note that the games prior to the trade for Cooper hurt Dak's numbers considerably. After Cooper joined the team, Dak ranked 10th from a clean pocket and 5th when pressured. The only QB who ranked in the top 10 in both categories during that time were Wilson, Ryan, Mayfield, and Prescott.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

See ya.

The outlier then becomes Matt Ryan. He did in fact have a statistic season that warrants this list. Russell and Dak did too on lesser levels, but Jameis? Deshawn at the top? Other guys not in the top 5? Has to be brought up considerations as to why.

The QB's on this list have one thing in common- offensive lines that struggled in 2018. Therefore, there's a much larger sample size of "passes under pressure" to go by.

That's why you don't see Brady, Brees, or Goff on this list. I'm sure they played well under pressure; but they were under nowhere near as much pressure as Prescott, Watson, Ryan, and Winston.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

The QB's on this list have one thing in common- offensive lines that struggled in 2018. Therefore, there's a much larger sample size of "passes under pressure" to go by.

That's why you don't see Brady, Brees, or Goff on this list. I'm sure they played well under pressure; but they were under nowhere near as much pressure as Prescott, Watson, Ryan, and Winston.

But this isn’t by volume, it’s by efficiency. Tom might not be under pressure as much, but when he is, you wouldn’t think he’d outperform Winston?

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

If you could only have one, you'd obviously take the guy who ranks higher when kept clean, because that's 2/3 of your dropbacks.

But it's important to note that the games prior to the trade for Cooper hurt Dak's numbers considerably. After Cooper joined the team, Dak ranked 10th from a clean pocket and 5th when pressured. The only QB who ranked in the top 10 in both categories during that time were Wilson, Ryan, Mayfield, and Prescott.

Thanks. Good stuff. As always.

 

[HungryLion]

Better than throwing ints like Romo did early in his career.

Bro. Have you seen enough of my posts to know that was sarcasm?

 

[Yobwocs]

But this isn’t by volume, it’s by efficiency. Tom might not be under pressure as much, but when he is, you wouldn’t think he’d outperform Winston?

It's not unthinkable to believe that Winston > Brady under pressure. Brady is not that good under pressure. Brady throws way better than Winston from the pocket, though - and no one is arguing that.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

It's not unthinkable to believe that Winston > Brady under pressure. Brady is not that good under pressure. Brady throws way better than Winston from the pocket, and no one is arguing that.

But Winston better than Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers in a banner season, Roethlisberger with 2 1400 yard WRs, Luck, Goff, Mahomes, on and on and on? That begins to become unthinkable.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

But this isn’t by volume, it’s by efficiency. Tom might not be under pressure as much, but when he is, you wouldn’t think he’d outperform Winston?

Well, I think stats like this just illustrate what certain QB's are good at. In no way is Dak or especially Jameis Winston better than Tom Brady; but I think it shows Winston is pretty good at recognizing pressure and getting rid of the ball (and having Mike Evans probably helps him, too).

I'm a Dak Prescott fan, and while I like seeing stats like this, I am also realistic. He is an upper-middle tier starting quarterback. But I think he will still get better, and stuff like this reinforces that.