Dak & Wentz are not on same level

[PJTHEDOORS]

I cant even understand the comparison at all.

Wentz is a QB where the whole offense can rely on him. Dak is a medicore college QB who needs all the talent in the world around him to succeed.

Yup, can rely on Wentz choking in the 4th quarter. As for Dak needing talent to succeed, you must think the same for Aikman. He was nothing without Emmitt. Take away Michael Irvin & replace him with a scrub.

 

[BigCatMonaco]

Only the Patriots have won more games that the Cowboys last 3 years. I’m not sure why Brady or Prescott are the focus of this comparison?

It sounds as though the intent is saying only the Patriots and Brady have had more success in last 3 years which certainly isn’t the case. Unless we’re hanging banners for divisions now? Some teams do.

You play to win games.
Dak does that.
He’s also never been the reason we didn’t advance in the playoffs.

 

[Diehardblues]

You play to win games.
Dak does that.
He’s also never been the reason we didn’t advance in the playoffs.

That’s really a subjective assumption. There’s usually several contributing factors in the result of a game.

 

[BigCatMonaco]

You’d imagine if dak won the second most games with Garrett at the helm and first was Brady and bellichwck that maybe dak is winning despite his coaching around him.

 

[BigCatMonaco]

When the greatest QB and coach combo ever is the only group winning more football games than you, you might not be as bad as many people make you out to be

 

[BigCatMonaco]

We get it.
Daks terrible as a QB
Yet he throws for more yards every single throw
Scores more
Turns it over less
Wins more games
Exists in the playoffs.



Just about covered it right?

 

[Rayman70]

Yup, can rely on Wentz choking in the 4th quarter. As for Dak needing talent to succeed, you must think the same for Aikman. He was nothing without Emmitt. Take away Michael Irvin & replace him with a scrub.

I am trying to understand objectively HOW the HECK that guy believes what he does about Wentz.

 

[Rayman70]

Iggles can Rely on Wentz? lol...hmmm k....LMAO....that statement alone is nonsensical rubbish. Foles was the man there that could be relied on. NOT Wentz. He must have them confused.

 

[TwentyOne]

Yup, can rely on Wentz choking in the 4th quarter. As for Dak needing talent to succeed, you must think the same for Aikman. He was nothing without Emmitt. Take away Michael Irvin & replace him with a scrub.

And you hit the nail. I do think the same as you think of Aikman.

Still Dak is way worse.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

You play to win games.
Dak does that.
He’s also never been the reason we didn’t advance in the playoffs.

But he’s also never specifically been the reason you advanced either. That’s what a 30m$ QB should be.

 

[Diehardblues]

You’d imagine if dak won the second most games with Garrett at the helm and first was Brady and bellichwck that maybe dak is winning despite his coaching around him.

Id characterize it more that we have assembled enough talent around Dak to carry him.

You do recall what we looked like without Zeke and or Cooper . Oh and all of our OL? Average to below average.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Id characterize it more that we have assembled enough talent around Dak to carry him.

You do recall what we looked like without Zeke and or Cooper . Oh and all of our OL? Average to below average.

The Saints were also below average with Brees, going 7-9 for 4 out of 5 years, until they added an All-Pro WR, All-Pro level RB, a couple All-Pro lineman, DROY CB; etc.

Elite QBs are supposed to carry teams, 7-9 for 4 in 5 years ain't carrying a team. Elite QBs are supposed to make everyone around them better, 7-9 4 in 5 years, why wasn't he making any of those guys better?

 

[Diehardblues]

The Saints were also below average with Brees, going 7-9 for 4 out of 5 years, until they added an All-Pro WR, All-Pro level RB, a couple All-Pro lineman, DROY CB; etc.

Elite QBs are supposed to carry teams, 7-9 for 4 in 5 years ain't carrying a team. Elite QBs are supposed to make everyone around them better, 7-9 4 in 5 years, why wasn't he making any of those guys better?

Im not really informed with Saints to discuss .

All QB need surrounding support. It’s what they do with it that separates them from the pack. Airman needed Elite talent too. When he had it we won 3 Rings. All Dak has won with it is a couple divisions.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Im not really informed with Saints to discuss .

All QB need surrounding support. It’s what they do with it that separates them from the pack. Airman needed Elite talent too. When he had it we won 3 Rings. All Dak has won with it is a couple divisions.

After his first 3 years, Dak should have already won a Super Bowl, multiple Superbowls? Brees had 2 1st ballot HOFers in their primes, Tomlinson and Gates, a good OL and a couple AP on defense, why didn't he win a Superbowl within those first 3 years? They drafted a QB to upgrade, Brees did not impress those first couple years, Rivers has been good, but was it an upgrade? Rivers and the Chargers have been one of the most underachieving teams this century. What would have happened if they had stuck with Brees, instead of taking a QB, they could have taken Larry Fitzgerald. An offense with Brees, Tomlinson, Gates and Fitzgerald all in their primes could have been unstoppable, but we'll never know. I',m not saying Dak will have a career like Brees, but then again the Chargers didn't think Brees would have a career like Brees either. The team has won with Dak, not just in spite of him and yes he could be better and the team could be better, but there's also 30 other teams that say that every year too. You should watch other games, not just the occasional highlights, but other full games. Just come out and say you want anyone but Dak, regardless of how the team does.

 

[Cowboysfan1975]

screw philly.
wentz is fragile.
both have the same super bowl record as a starting QB...0-0.
Dak beats'm head to head....again.
COWBOYS

Wentz ain't that good.

 

[Flamma]

Wentz is good with the pieces around him, like most QBs. People keep forgetting that minor detail.

 

[Diehardblues]

After his first 3 years, Dak should have already won a Super Bowl, multiple Superbowls? Brees had 2 1st ballot HOFers in their primes, Tomlinson and Gates, a good OL and a couple AP on defense, why didn't he win a Superbowl within those first 3 years? They drafted a QB to upgrade, Brees did not impress those first couple years, Rivers has been good, but was it an upgrade? Rivers and the Chargers have been one of the most underachieving teams this century. What would have happened if they had stuck with Brees, instead of taking a QB, they could have taken Larry Fitzgerald. An offense with Brees, Tomlinson, Gates and Fitzgerald all in their primes could have been unstoppable, but we'll never know. I',m not saying Dak will have a career like Brees, but then again the Chargers didn't think Brees would have a career like Brees either. The team has won with Dak, not just in spite of him and yes he could be better and the team could be better, but there's also 30 other teams that say that every year too. You should watch other games, not just the occasional highlights, but other full games. Just come out and say you want anyone but Dak, regardless of how the team does.

Brees has done more with it when he’s had it and despite being on lesser teams some seasons has still put up prolific numbers which will land him in the HOF.

Dak is ok but if we had a Brees caliber we might have won a Super Bowl as you said.

I like Dak. He has some intangible assets. Best backup we’ve had in years. An incredible Rookie season. But we’ve already seen what he is without the supporting cast. And it isn’t pretty.

If this is as good as it gets then it will be another wasted era. Time will tell. I’m not sure why your so obsessed with the Brees comparisons but yea, who wouldn’t rather have a HOF caliber QB?

 

[Roadtrip635]

Brees has done more with it when he’s had it and despite being on lesser teams some seasons has still put up prolific numbers which will land him in the HOF.

Dak is ok but if we had a Brees caliber we might have won a Super Bowl as you said.

I like Dak. He has some intangible assets. Best backup we’ve had in years. An incredible Rookie season. But we’ve already seen what he is without the supporting cast. And it isn’t pretty.

If this is as good as it gets then it will be another wasted era. Time will tell. I’m not sure why your so obsessed with the Brees comparisons but yea, who wouldn’t rather have a HOF caliber QB?

Brees did less with more at the same point of his career as Dak, but you failed to see that even when pointed out. It's easy to judge him now because of his history, but it was far from clear at the same point in their careers as Dak. Brees wasn't a HOF caliber QB his first 3-4 years, he was let go because of his inconsistent play and significant injury. I never said we would have won a Superbowl with Brees, nor did I say the Chargers would have either, it's just you reading what you want to hear. There's no way to be sure since there's a lot more than one player to win a SuperBowl, coaching, scheme, other players, injuries, luck etc that go into it. You hate Dak, just come out and say it, you would rather this team lose and get rid of Dak than see us win with him.

 

[408Cowboy]

It is being rumored that Wentz contract extension will be at $30 mill year (same as Dak rumored #s). If that happens then the implosion can not happen soon enough with Jones running the Dallas Cowboys. Wentz is MVP type QB when healthy and Dak if everything on earth breaks right for him could make pro-bowl.

We are going to find out very shortly if Jerry & Stephan are simply incompetent and more concerned with locking up guys they like (to insane contracts) just because they toe the company line.

They are both equally level. One levels out horizontally on a trainers table while the other levels out vertically on the field.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Yup, can rely on Wentz choking in the 4th quarter. As for Dak needing talent to succeed, you must think the same for Aikman. He was nothing without Emmitt. Take away Michael Irvin & replace him with a scrub.

aikman won 3 superbowls when given those talents....until Dak wins the first one, he needs talent to just get him to the playoffs