Why Johnny Manziel failed in the NFL

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This video is about why Manziel didn't pan out in the NFL. He believes its about more than his off-the-field antics. He developed some very bad habits on the field that worked for him in the NCAA, but will not work in the NFL or even in the CFL. This video does make me wonder if he could have worked out if the approach had been different, if he had not been brought in with ultra high expectations. I also wonder about other busts. What if Ryan Leaf had not been a first-round pick with all the pressure to be an instant savior quarterback? What if he had been drafted in the 4th or 5th round and had backed up a quality veteran? He could have had time to learn the ropes and adjust to the much more competitive league. What about RG3? He looked good in his rookie season, but throwing him into the fire so quickly -- did it just injure him irreparably and burn him out?

Quarterbacks used to not be drafted without any expectation of starting as a rookie. Even the super talented Roger Staubach backed up Craig Morton for a year and a half before winning the starting job. Joe Montana backed up Steve DeBerg at first.

This guy's analysis is really good.

 

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He failed because during his first year of starting they were touting him as the next best thing. And you could see his crazy behavior all through college that he wasn't taking anything seriously. Yet somehow professional scouting teams failed to see any of this or determined that once he got to the nfl he'll straighten out.
 

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Football DaD could've gotten him lined out & running flat out with the program,,, er,,, more than likely:starspin:
 

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Johnny actually had very low football intelligence, he could improv he could use talent like tall high jumping receivers and a great O-line to his advantage. The bottom line is he probably didn't even use average preparation and study. He did bare mininum and relied on his gunslinging see it as it goes throw a jump ball street sports skill to dominate in college, but in the NFL that is not even close to good enough.
 

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Johnny actually had very low football intelligence, he could improv he could use talent like tall high jumping receivers and a great O-line to his advantage. The bottom line is he probably didn't even use average preparation and study. He did bare mininum and relied on his gunslinging see it as it goes throw a jump ball street sports skill to dominate in college, but in the NFL that is not even close to good enough.

That's pretty much spot-on. I'm so glad the Cowboys didn't draft him and went with Zack Martin instead. I see that as a turning point in the franchise. I do think the guy in the video has a point that maybe Manziel could have made it as a backup in the NFL if expectations had been reasonable. He showed some signs of development in Cleveland, of learning to be a pocket-first passer. With a little maturity and study, this kid probably could have been a good backup.
 

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This video is about why Manziel didn't pan out in the NFL. He believes its about more than his off-the-field antics. He developed some very bad habits on the field that worked for him in the NCAA, but will not work in the NFL or even in the CFL. This video does make me wonder if he could have worked out if the approach had been different, if he had not been brought in with ultra high expectations. I also wonder about other busts. What if Ryan Leaf had not been a first-round pick with all the pressure to be an instant savior quarterback? What if he had been drafted in the 4th or 5th round and had backed up a quality veteran? He could have had time to learn the ropes and adjust to the much more competitive league. What about RG3? He looked good in his rookie season, but throwing him into the fire so quickly -- did it just injure him irreparably and burn him out?

Quarterbacks used to not be drafted without any expectation of starting as a rookie. Even the super talented Roger Staubach backed up Craig Morton for a year and a half before winning the starting job. Joe Montana backed up Steve DeBerg at first.

This guy's analysis is really good.



Legit. I watched this analysis the other day. His bailing out of the pocket playing style and lack of mental discipline got him exposed in the NFL. Nailed it.
 

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In terms of raw physical ability I think he was fine - he could sling the ball well enough, and his NFL career was so short it's hard to say if he was injury-prone or just had some early bad luck. He was a decent scrambler even if he was no Vick.

I'm not even sure he was dumb, so much as he didn't give a crap and was a lazy drunk. Favre had a gunslinger mindset and was no football genius, but unlike Manziel he actually DID put in the work to learn an NFL offense and could play within the scheme most of the time. Manziel didn't have Favre-tier talent, but his bigger problem was that he wouldn't even put in Favre level mental preparation. He was just a numb nuts.
 

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He was just a numb nuts.
This ^

Cleveland was desperate for anything positive... If he put in a minimal amount of work he'd probably still be playing... But he wanted to drink more than he wanted to play...
 

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He failed because during his first year of starting they were touting him as the next best thing. And you could see his crazy behavior all through college that he wasn't taking anything seriously. Yet somehow professional scouting teams failed to see any of this or determined that once he got to the nfl he'll straighten out.
I think you meant to say CLEV's scouting team failed to see it. Other teams weren't showing much interest.
 

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If manziel had worked as hard at his craft as he did on the party circuit, he would still be in the NFL today. Classic case of a guy who couldn't get out of his own way.
 

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Johnny actually had very low football intelligence, he could improv he could use talent like tall high jumping receivers and a great O-line to his advantage. The bottom line is he probably didn't even use average preparation and study. He did bare mininum and relied on his gunslinging see it as it goes throw a jump ball street sports skill to dominate in college, but in the NFL that is not even close to good enough.
I would argue he had/has low IQ period, not just low football IQ.
 

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Lack of desire to do what it takes to excel in the NFL as well as his lack of self discipline to refrain from constant partying and drug abuse.
 

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Legit. I watched this analysis the other day. His bailing out of the pocket playing style and lack of mental discipline got him exposed in the NFL. Nailed it.

The guy made a lot of sense. I didn't watch him play in college, but if you need to buy time or a busted play to succeed as a QB, that's not going to work as a rule in the NFL. I used to think Romo would do that purposely on occasion and it used to bother me. But he could throw from the pocket and had many more redeeming qualities.
 
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