Report: Dak Prescott counteroffer higher than Carson Wentz deal

[Hawkeye0202]

Getting it and being worth it are two different things. No player in the NFL is worth that kinds of money IMO. Certainly not Dak but whatever.

Just curious, what about NBA and MLB players, who certainly make more money risking with less risk of injuries?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You could say this about most rich people. Are CEOs really worth $10-$20 million a year salary and stock options they get? Fans shouldnt worry about other people’s money.

Yeah, this is wrong. It's not other peoples money. It's our money because we pay for all of this, as fans. Every cable payment we make, every ball cap we buy, every game we go to, every beer we purchase, every nacho boat we eat. Fans absolutely have a right to worry about the money, if for no other reason, it's a hard cap league. Personally, I don't give to flips of a cow paddy about the money, except that it effects the team. That's the big deal and fans have every right to have concern over that.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Just curious, what about NBA and MLB players, who certainly make more money risking with less risk of injuries?

None of them are worth what they are making but again, NBA and MLB are not hard capped. That's the big difference.

 

[uvaballa]

Yeah, this is wrong. It's not other peoples money. It's our money because we pay for all of this, as fans. Every cable payment we make, every ball cap we buy, every game we go to, every beer we purchase, every nacho boat we eat. Fans absolutely have a right to worry about the money, if for no other reason, it's a hard cap league. Personally, I don't give to flips of a cow paddy about the money, except that it effects the team. That's the big deal and fans have every right to have concern over that.

We don’t pay for all of it. Advertising dollars pays for a lot and local governments who fund chunks of stadiums. We fans can’t worry about what the GM spends because we have no say. We just have to go with the moves they make because the money is going to be spent somewhere.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

We don’t pay for all of it. Advertising dollars pays for a lot and local governments who fund chunks of stadiums. We fans can’t worry about what the GM spends because we have no say. We just have to go with the moves they make because the money is going to be spent somewhere.

Doesn't matter if you pay for all of it. We are the audience. We are the customer. We don't pay for the building where your steak is cooked either but you pay for the steak right? You expect to pay a fair price right? You don't pay for the building where your tires are balanced and mounted do you? But you do pay for the tires and the mounting and you certainly expect those tires to have tread on them when you buy them right? You certainly expect them to drive with no wobble and you dang sure expect the things to be bolted on and not come off the wheel while you are driving down the street right?

You pay taxes don't you? You pay for the products that are being advertised and you pay for the advertisements every time you make a cable payment or log on to the net or pick up your phone and check something out. In hundreds of ways, you are paying for all of this. This money doesn't just appear magically, to pay for all of this stuff. It comes from somewhere and that's us.

 

[uvaballa]

Doesn't matter if you pay for all of it. We are the audience. We are the customer. We don't pay for the building where your steak is cooked either but you pay for the steak right? You expect to pay a fair price right? You don't pay for the building where your tires are balanced and mounted do you? But you do pay for the tires and the mounting and you certainly expect those tires to have tread on them when you buy them right? You certainly expect them to drive with no wobble and you dang sure expect the things to be bolted on and not come off the wheel while you are driving down the street right?

You pay taxes don't you? You pay for the products that are being advertised and you pay for the advertisements every time you make a cable payment or log on to the net or pick up your phone and check something out. In hundreds of ways, you are paying for all of this. This money doesn't just appear magically, to pay for all of this stuff. It comes from somewhere and that's us.

I expect a fair price but I don’t tell the owner how much to pay the chef. Not my concern. I buy a lot of Nike gear, I don’t tell them how much they should pay players for endorsements. People who own stock in a business can complain a little but we don’t own any stock in the Cowboys so we just have to go along. Haven’t fans been trying to get JJ to step down for years? How has that worked? We have no say so no reason to ***** everyday about it.

I do pay taxes but I can actually vote for people.

 

[uvaballa]

One other thing why don’t fans complain when a player far exceeds his contract? Shouldn’t they get fair market value in that situation? Shouldn’t the team give them a new contract?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I expect a fair price but I don’t tell the owner how much to pay the chef. Not my concern. I buy a lot of Nike gear, I don’t tell them how much they should pay players for endorsements. People who own stock in a business can complain a little but we don’t own any stock in the Cowboys so we just have to go along. Haven’t fans been trying to get JJ to step down for years? How has that worked? We have no say so no reason to ***** everyday about it.

I do pay taxes but I can actually vote for people.

And what do you expect, for a fair price? Do you expect to order the type of steak you want, for a fair price? Do you expect the tires you want for a fair price or do you just expect to pay a price and get what you get? Do you expect have that Chef cook the steak how you like it or just the way he likes it? If you have any of these expectations, then you expect more then just a fair price and why? Because you are paying for it.

And BTW, you do have a say in it. You can make your vote count through the process of not electing to purchase gear or watch games or maybe just making your opinion known on the subject. In this country, that's OK to do and every single customer has that right. Nobody should tell anybody that they are not allowed to make their opinions know. That's not the way it works here.

Your opinion is that you have no right to have an opinion on the product you see on the field, that's fine but you don't get to tell anybody else what they should think, in that regard because that's just not the way it works here.

 

[Captain-Crash]

Just say you're in love with Dak, it's 2019, it okay in some places.

 

[uvaballa]

And what do you expect, for a fair price? Do you expect to order the type of steak you want, for a fair price? Do you expect the tires you want for a fair price or do you just expect to pay a price and get what you get? Do you expect have that Chef cook the steak how you like it or just the way he likes it? If you have any of these expectations, then you expect more then just a fair price and why? Because you are paying for it.

And BTW, you do have a say in it. You can make your vote count through the process of not electing to purchase gear or watch games or maybe just making your opinion known on the subject. In this country, that's OK to do and every single customer has that right. Nobody should tell anybody that they are not allowed to make their opinions know. That's not the way it works here.

Your opinion is that you have no right to have an opinion on the product you see on the field, that's fine but you don't get to tell anybody else what they should think, in that regard because that's just not the way it works here.

You can have an opinion on what you see on the field. But the Cowboys are what they are and you can’t change that. You have no say on who is hired and what they are paid so live with it. You can say boycott is having a say but we’ve seen what happened when all the fans tried to boycott a few years ago, nothing!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You can have an opinion on what you see on the field. But the Cowboys are what they are and you can’t change that. You have no say on who is hired and what they are paid so live with it. You can say boycott is having a say but we’ve seen what happened when all the fans tried to boycott a few years ago, nothing!

I can have an opinion on anything that I want but specifically, I can have an opinion on what things effect the product on the field and what you pay players effects that because it's a cap league. Besides, who are you to tell me to live with anything? You aren't following your own advice right now. I live in the U.S.A. I can have an opinion on anything I want. Live With It.

Another thing, I've only ever seen fans boycott once and that was back during the Scab year. Nobody ever tried to boycott the Cowboys a few years ago. Never seen it or heard of it.

 

[Hadenough]

Yeah, this is wrong. It's not other peoples money. It's our money because we pay for all of this, as fans. Every cable payment we make, every ball cap we buy, every game we go to, every beer we purchase, every nacho boat we eat. Fans absolutely have a right to worry about the money, if for no other reason, it's a hard cap league. Personally, I don't give to flips of a cow paddy about the money, except that it effects the team. That's the big deal and fans have every right to have concern over that.

I dont care what players make unless it has an affect on the team where they can't keep other players. Like Dak gets paid 34 mil and the Cowboys have to decide between Byron Jones or Zeke. It also affects the quality of depth your team can carry. I don't care if they sign Zeke for 15 mil a year and Byron for 12 mil a year. It's funny how we look at a player like DeMarcus Lawrence and he is a top tier DE and he got top tier money. But Dak isnt a top tier QB and he should not get top tier money.

 

[csirl]

This thread will go into nuclear meltdown if the Cowboys dont extend Dak before training camp starts THIS month.

 

[Hadenough]

This thread will go into nuclear meltdown if the Cowboys dont extend Dak before training camp starts THIS month.

That could happen. If Jerry hasnt signed him by now he may very well want to wait and see how this season plays out. It can't hurt. He's already asking for top money might as well wait.

 

[csirl]

Its time for someone to post one of those poll threads with:

If Dak isnt extended this month, will he

A. Holdout.

B. Report and play

 

[blueblood70]

Just curious, what about NBA and MLB players, who certainly make more money risking with less risk of injuries?

ask GS about Klay and KD how they are less injured, add boogie in theren..there are many guy JJ Barrea and other this off season that had major injuies.i realize football is more risk but the NBA and even a lot of Tommy johns done in baseball..its sport the NBA guys have guaranteed monster contracts with a soft cap with the luxury tax and better set up to pay ,max to your own players.. the nfl needs to work hard the next cba because if you look at it from players perspective because its tougher sport shorter careers and complications after retirement, they should get MORE guarantees..

 

[blueblood70]

Dak is worth it. Easily.. and he will get it whether you approve of it or not.

I dont agree but he is going to get it..but 32-34 no FN way..that would be too much risk for tier 2 QB that runs a lot and risks injury.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

ask GS about Klay and KD how they are less injured, add boogie in theren..there are many guy JJ Barrea and other this off season that had major injuies.i realize football is more risk but the NBA and even a lot of Tommy johns done in baseball..its sport the NBA guys have guaranteed monster contracts with a soft cap with the luxury tax and better set up to pay ,max to your own players.. the nfl needs to work hard the next cba because if you look at it from players perspective because its tougher sport shorter careers and complications after retirement, they should get MORE guarantees..

100%.......but a tough sell. Don't see owners bending much there at all.

 

[glimmerman]

Give him 30 million now and save yourself the money later. With this team (barring injury) they are gonna be better than last year. Not just the last half of 2018 but the whole year. Imagine his stats alone if he had Cooper and a improved Gallup the whole year. A healthy O-Line and the best RB in the league.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I dont agree but he is going to get it..but 32-34 no FN way..that would be too much risk for tier 2 QB that runs a lot and risks injury.

If Amari Cooper had been with the team since Week 1 last year, Dak easily would have thrown for over 4,000 yards. There would be no discussion as to him being a "Tier 1 or Tier 2" and Top 10 QB. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it. No need to hold it against him for this organization surrounding him with no talent at WR and TE, plus an injured Oline, for the first half of the season which did affect Dak's numbers. Even then, Dak lit it up during the second half of the season once Amari Cooper showed up and the Oline started playing better with the Oline coaching change.

Dak deserves to get paid because he has earned it. Dak is no "Tier 2" QB. He is going to silence all of you critics this year with a fully healthy and loaded Oline, WRs, TEs and new O-Coordinator. Best to pay him his $32 - $34 mil/year now before his price goes $5 million higher by the end of this 2019 season.