Deep Passing Stats 2017

xwalker said:
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they also had Dak as the 25th rated passer (DYAR) and 26th in (DVOA) and 19th QBR...and so on..... by far the worst ranking for Dak prescott. ..so is Football Outsiders a source that the Dak Fanatics use....because they have argued against all other ones not being valid...here we are they use footballoutsiders as a source...which clearly points to Dak being an average middle of the pack QB....deep passes an all....
 
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CowboysFaninHouston said:
they also had Dak as the 25th rated passer (DYAR) and 26th in (DVOA) and 19th QBR...and so on..... by far the worst ranking for Dak prescott. ..so is Football Outsiders a source that the Dak Fanatics use....because they have argued against all other ones not being valid...here we are they use footballoutsiders as a source...which clearly points to Dak being an average middle of the pack QB....deep passes an all....
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They will argue whatever is necessary to defend Dak’s honor, lol.
 
xwalker said:
I really only answer this because other people will read it. I know that you actually have no real interest in the subject and are just trolling in an attempt to find fault with my posts and somehow improve your own self-esteem without actually contributing anything.
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Why are you using only passes of 95 yards or more???

Cal Poly is like a moth to flame, you can write his posts before you even click on the thread.
 
CowboysFaninHouston said:
they also had Dak as the 25th rated passer (DYAR) and 26th in (DVOA) and 19th QBR...and so on..... by far the worst ranking for Dak prescott. ..so is Football Outsiders a source that the Dak Fanatics use....because they have argued against all other ones not being valid...here we are they use footballoutsiders as a source...which clearly points to Dak being an average middle of the pack QB....deep passes an all....
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I'll answer because other people might read this post; however, I realize that you are unlikely to be interested in actually learning something and just want to troll against Dak.

The reason there are two links to the same info is that it wasn't football outsiders work or data. They paid a blogger to post his article on their site.

The deep pass guy shows his data and if it was sorted without adjustments on just 16+ or 20+ yards pass completion percentage Dak still looks very good (Brissett would fall way below Dak without adjustments).

The more complex calculated stats like DYAR are dependent on those equations being meaningful. I'm not saying they are or are not meaningful but it's not obvious either way. I can make up derived stats and post them as proof of something but they wouldn't really prove anything unless they were somehow proven to be accurate using historical data. Even then they would only be meaningful to people that had seen the proof of accuracy.

16+ yard pass completion percentage is much more obvious. Even the deep pass guy's accuracy stat ACC% is much less convoluted than the many of those derived stats from football outsiders. He takes out drops by receivers and throws when the QB got hit while throwing.
 
Kaiser said:
Why are you using only passes of 95 yards or more???

Cal Poly is like a moth to flame, you can write his posts before you even click on the thread.
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More comedy of actions by him.

He somehow thought he found something I was hiding because the data is available at both football outsiders and the bloggers own website.

In reality I had told him previously that the data was at football outsiders which is obviously true for anybody that looks.
 
Kaiser said:
Why are you using only passes of 95 yards or more???

Cal Poly is like a moth to flame, you can write his posts before you even click on the thread.
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For some reason Cal Poly always makes me think of the phrase in an Eminem song:

Two trailer park girls go 'round the outside
'Round the outside, 'round the outside
Two trailer park girls go 'round the outside
'Round the outside, 'round the outside.
 
xwalker said:
More comedy of actions by him.
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Comedy is the right word.

XWalker: Here are the stats on Dak's deep passing

Cow Plop: ACKSHUALLY, here is a blog post saying he is only the second best. He sucks!
 
xwalker said:
For some reason Cal Poly always makes me think of the phrase in an Eminem song:
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My mental picture is always the Leave Britney Alone girl.

iu
 
CowboysFaninHouston said:
they also had Dak as the 25th rated passer (DYAR) and 26th in (DVOA) and 19th QBR...and so on..... by far the worst ranking for Dak prescott. ..so is Football Outsiders a source that the Dak Fanatics use....because they have argued against all other ones not being valid...here we are they use footballoutsiders as a source...which clearly points to Dak being an average middle of the pack QB....deep passes an all....
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I think people are realizing what complete charlatans the Dak apologists are.

Like I always say, Dak’s not the problem, rather it’s his incessantly stupid fanbase that is.
 
Kaiser said:
My mental picture is always the Leave Britney Alone girl.

iu
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1. Once again more evidence that I’m always on your mind; and

2. We actually have footage of you at your home in Rancho Cucamonga (or “LA”)


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“TAKE THAT CalPolleee!” — kaiser the self-proclaimed war-hero​
 
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xwalker said:
I'll answer because other people might read this post; however, I realize that you are unlikely to be interested in actually learning something and just want to troll against Dak.

The reason there are two links to the same info is that it wasn't football outsiders work or data. They paid a blogger to post his article on their site.

The deep pass guy shows his data and if it was sorted without adjustments on just 16+ or 20+ yards pass completion percentage Dak still looks very good (Brissett would fall way below Dak without adjustments).

The more complex calculated stats like DYAR are dependent on those equations being meaningful. I'm not saying they are or are not meaningful but it's not obvious either way. I can make up derived stats and post them as proof of something but they wouldn't really prove anything unless they were somehow proven to be accurate using historical data. Even then they would only be meaningful to people that had seen the proof of accuracy.

16+ yard pass completion percentage is much more obvious. Even the deep pass guy's accuracy stat ACC% is much less convoluted than the many of those derived stats from football outsiders. He takes out drops by receivers and throws when the QB got hit while throwing.
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well, here is spinning and being selective again, its trying to dismiss all other stats and facts, yet focus on the items that support your Dak excuses and paint him in the bright lights..... so now, its passes of 16+ yards, in an article written by a guest blogger on footballoutsiders, but heck lets dismiss all other stats on the same site, lets not focus on all these other stats because they don't support my argument and they are subjective, but this one stat is objective, lets focus on the wins only, because hey, it supports my argument, lets focus on the come backs, because hey it supports my argument, but all these other sites, stats and facts are meaningless and subjective and can be argued to be meaningless because hey, I am a Dak Fanatic and this is what we do.

no one is arguing that Dak is bad. no one says Dak sucks. but its time for y ou Dak Fanatics to stop being so sensitive everytime someone points to a flaw in his game, or his short comings and that he is an average QB....its time for you Dak Fanatics to stop trying to paint him to be an ELITE passer. because ELITE he is not.

and there is absolutely, nothing wrong with criticizing him, or saying he is an average passer.

but I am sure, there is a Dak Fanatic, who will bring up stat, from game 11 of 2017, through end of 2018, minus the first x number of games, excluding the 4th quarter in games 1 , 3 and 4, except for the time between 8:00 minutes of the 1st quarter and 5th minute of the 3rd quarter that Dak was the leading passer in the NFL not taking into account games 12 and 14 but hey, game 16 against the giants he showed he is Elite, because he passed for 347 yards and had a career day...lets not forget about the Giants game, because all these other games not his fault. bad OL, bad RB, bad WRs, bad TE and bad fans.....

spin spin spin spin spin spin spin..... so now this article is legit...because it was a blogger on footballoutsiders, not their usual writers....geesh!!!
 
CowboysFaninHouston said:
well, here is spinning and being selective again, its trying to dismiss all other stats and facts, yet focus on the items that support your Dak excuses and paint him in the bright lights..... so now, its passes of 16+ yards, in an article written by a guest blogger on footballoutsiders, but heck lets dismiss all other stats on the same site, lets not focus on all these other stats because they don't support my argument and they are subjective, but this one stat is objective, lets focus on the wins only, because hey, it supports my argument, lets focus on the come backs, because hey it supports my argument, but all these other sites, stats and facts are meaningless and subjective and can be argued to be meaningless because hey, I am a Dak Fanatic and this is what we do.

no one is arguing that Dak is bad. no one says Dak sucks. but its time for y ou Dak Fanatics to stop being so sensitive everytime someone points to a flaw in his game, or his short comings and that he is an average QB....its time for you Dak Fanatics to stop trying to paint him to be an ELITE passer. because ELITE he is not.

and there is absolutely, nothing wrong with criticizing him, or saying he is an average passer.

but I am sure, there is a Dak Fanatic, who will bring up stat, from game 11 of 2017, through end of 2018, minus the first x number of games, excluding the 4th quarter in games 1 , 3 and 4, except for the time between 8:00 minutes of the 1st quarter and 5th minute of the 3rd quarter that Dak was the leading passer in the NFL not taking into account games 12 and 14 but hey, game 16 against the giants he showed he is Elite, because he passed for 347 yards and had a career day...lets not forget about the Giants game, because all these other games not his fault. bad OL, bad RB, bad WRs, bad TE and bad fans.....

spin spin spin spin spin spin spin..... so now this article is legit...because it was a blogger on footballoutsiders, not their usual writers....geesh!!!
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Any neutral observer would see that my posts are calm and rational while yours are not rational and not calm.

I do enjoy the comedy.
 
xwalker said:
I didn't generate the data or choose the 16 or 20 yard cutoff points. If you had paid attention you would know that.

You lack self-awareness to realize that everyone was laughing at your past desperate attempts to find fault with my posts.
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An OP that focuses on deep completion, with data...lol, and someone has a personal agenda to discuss. Go figure, huh...:)
 
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