Jerry created this monster

[JoeKing]

Getting Cooper signed will help most with the cap. I think you make that your priority and then sign our QB. Zeke's childish antics have him on the back burner when it comes to getting paid. Zeke has to decide if he wants to be an active part of this team, this season or not and act accordingly. His payday isn't coming until 2020.

 

[JoeKing]

I try to keep away from contract threads...but one quick question. Doesn't he only have a 4 year deal until the option is picked up? Has it been picked up?

The 5th year option has been exercised by the FO.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

The Rams GM and Gurleys agent created this monster

Wrong!!!!
If it wasn't Gurley it would have been some other quality HB.
Zeke is currently not even Top 10 in monies when it pertains to NFL starting HB.
This hold-out is a end result on how dependent our offense is to Zeke.
Zeke and esp his agent know what happened to Murray and that timing baby is everything.
Could the above be avoided?
Yes if he had a passing game that produced and defenses feared. If this was the case Zeke would not risk it as the playing field changes for our offense and his negotiating powers would be much more limited!

 

[DuncanIso]

The 5th year option has been exercised by the FO.

Can be voided if Zeke is injured before May 2020.

Zeke would be taking a chance playing in 2019 without a new deal.

 

[superonyx]

....Zeke got coached by the wrong coach (agent). Copying Bell, wanting Gurley money and whatever else inducements got fed. With 2 yrs still on contract.

Well considering the cowboys have now offered him millions of dollars more I doubt he would consider this a loss. Worse case scenario he gets a huge raise. Best case scenario he gets a huge raise.

would you consider either a bad move?
You would be a fool to.

 

[Reid1boys]

Jerry has always persisted in allowing his mouth to give his players high expectations for upcoming contracts. It would be much smarter to say nothing at all until the time comes to divvy up. It's a shame that he doesn't seem aware of that, since many players are far more prone to take advantage of it inappropriately when these promises of great generosity are haphazardly made prematurely.

Even his son, Stephen, has been known to do much the same, albeit to a lesser degree. Hopefully, it might eventually occur to them to stifle themselves until the time comes to negotiate. Making assurances of generosity through the media is simply a faulty business policy that can far too easily backfire. As it is, today's players are overly concerned with the money aspect of their sport more than ever now. Encouraging it even more is foolhardy.

So let me get this straight. If Jerry was quiet, Cooper and his agent would forget that the Cowboys traded a 1st for a guy that had 1 year left on his contract and would also not pay attention to the 100 million MT just got from the Saints? In addition, Zeke would not expect to get more than Gurley since he has obviously outperformed Gurley since day 1? Oh, ok, if only Jerry would understand that his silence would equate to agents becoming ignorant. Damn it Jerry! Did a quiet owner keep LBell's salary demands low? Antonio Brown? How about Donald in Ram Land? Wilson in SEattle???

 

[Ranching]

So let me get this straight. If Jerry was quiet, Cooper and his agent would forget that the Cowboys traded a 1st for a guy that had 1 year left on his contract and would also not pay attention to the 100 million MT just got from the Saints? In addition, Zeke would not expect to get more than Gurley since he has obviously outperformed Gurley since day 1? Oh, ok, if only Jerry would understand that his silence would equate to agents becoming ignorant. Damn it Jerry!

Yep! It's Jerry's fault.

 

[CouchCoach]

So let me get this straight. If Jerry was quiet, Cooper and his agent would forget that the Cowboys traded a 1st for a guy that had 1 year left on his contract and would also not pay attention to the 100 million MT just got from the Saints? In addition, Zeke would not expect to get more than Gurley since he has obviously outperformed Gurley since day 1? Oh, ok, if only Jerry would understand that his silence would equate to agents becoming ignorant. Damn it Jerry! Did a quiet owner keep LBell's salary demands low? Antonio Brown? How about Donald in Ram Land? Wilson in SEattle???

You are comparing players up for contracts to three players under contract and not one of them said anything about a new deal until the mouthy media morons shot their mouths off about giving them new deals. So, yes, they created this situation because they live for the media coverage.

Would their agents be on the hunt so hungrily if not for the only team in the NFL that pulls this crap? Talking to the media about what they're thinking is only done by this team. Does that affect the agents' pushing for top dollar to play hard ball? I believe so but you see them being smart and not using the media, they leave that up to these two to run off at the mouth and just keep the prices going up.

 

[Hardline]

Wrong!!!!
If it wasn't Gurley it would have been some other quality HB.
Zeke is currently not even Top 10 in monies when it pertains to NFL starting HB.
This hold-out is a end result on how dependent our offense is to Zeke.
Zeke and esp his agent know what happened to Murray and that timing baby is everything.
Could the above be avoided?
Yes if he had a passing game that produced and defenses feared. If this was the case Zeke would not risk it as the playing field changes for our offense and his negotiating powers would be much more limited!

I am absolutely correct about what I posted.. The Rams over set the RB market single handedly

 

[Bullflop]

So let me get this straight. If Jerry was quiet, Cooper and his agent would forget that the Cowboys traded a 1st for a guy that had 1 year left on his contract and would also not pay attention to the 100 million MT just got from the Saints? In addition, Zeke would not expect to get more than Gurley since he has obviously outperformed Gurley since day 1? Oh, ok, if only Jerry would understand that his silence would equate to agents becoming ignorant. Damn it Jerry! Did a quiet owner keep LBell's salary demands low? Antonio Brown? How about Donald in Ram Land? Wilson in SEattle???

That's taking a lot for granted, although, suggesting to greedy players that they're about to get rich isn't any way to set up negotiations. Expecting a "team-friendly deal" after leading them on is asking for trouble from the start. There are always some players that are less demanding than those you've just mentioned, so it's really not a case of them all being selfish to a fault. Players like Tyron Smith and Tom Brady aren't prone to such demands, that's for sure. The smartest GMs are the ones who know better than to whet their player's and agent's appetites beforehand, then expect a bargain after the fact. It only provides the other side with more ammunition.

 

[Beaker42]

zeke's agent , rocky , got jerry between a rock and a hard place .

jerry wont appreciate this .

No - Rocky got Zeke between a Rocky and a hard place.

 

[Beaker42]

Since when is two TD's a game all that impressive? Oh, I get it, two TD's a game on average would be an astronomical improvement for Mr. "I can't hit the broadside of a barn".

TBTH, 2 passing TD’s per game should be the standard for any starting QB.

 

[Reid1boys]

You are comparing players up for contracts to three players under contract and not one of them said anything about a new deal until the mouthy media morons shot their mouths off about giving them new deals. So, yes, they created this situation because they live for the media coverage.

Would their agents be on the hunt so hungrily if not for the only team in the NFL that pulls this crap? Talking to the media about what they're thinking is only done by this team. Does that affect the agents' pushing for top dollar to play hard ball? I believe so but you see them being smart and not using the media, they leave that up to these two to run off at the mouth and just keep the prices going up.

Since the Saints guy died, was he talking from the grave? Did that drive up th eprice for MT? So you think that MT and Julio Jones impending deal aret the reasons for prices going up? You think the rams giving Gurley a ridiculous deal didnt have more to do with Zeke's holdout? I get it, you hate the Jone's family, you are far smarter than they are, but stop blaming them for all the craters on the moon. Believe it or not, Wentz deal is impacting Dak's deal far more than any WORDS that come out of anyone's mouth. You know the saying, MOney talks and BS walks.

 

[Reid1boys]

I am absolutely correct about what I posted.. The Rams over set the RB market single handedly

no they didnt... it was Jerry talking that set the market. Just read this board.

 

[Reid1boys]

That's taking a lot for granted, although, suggesting to greedy players that they're about to get rich isn't any way to set up negotiations. Expecting a "team-friendly deal" after leading them on is asking for trouble from the start. There are always some players that are less demanding than those you've just mentioned, so it's really not a case of them all being selfish to a fault. Players like Tyron Smith and Tom Brady aren't prone to such demands, that's for sure. The smartest GMs are the ones who know better than to whet their player's and agent's appetites beforehand, then expect a bargain after the fact. It only provides the other side with more ammunition.

Every sports talk show on TV, ESPN, FOX, NFL Network have been debating on how big a deal Dak will get for over a year. When Wentz signed his deal, that was the satrting point for Dak..... thats it, same draft, same position, same division... that is what drives these contracts. Maybe if all the owners and GMs didnt talk EVER, maybe we could still get our QB for 5 years and 14 million. Afterall..... its the talk that drives these contracts?

Telling Zeke and cooper they are about to get paid is like telling them water is wet. Who would of thunk big deals were coming for these guys. If we all keep quiet, I bet Jaylon wont ask for big dollars soon either.......smh

 

[CouchCoach]

I am absolutely correct about what I posted.. The Rams over set the RB market single handedly

And they did that with a RB that came into the league injured and has since had problems.

 

[CouchCoach]

Since the Saints guy died, was he talking from the grave? Did that drive up th eprice for MT? So you think that MT and Julio Jones impending deal aret the reasons for prices going up? You think the rams giving Gurley a ridiculous deal didnt have more to do with Zeke's holdout? I get it, you hate the Jone's family, you are far smarter than they are, but stop blaming them for all the craters on the moon. Believe it or not, Wentz deal is impacting Dak's deal far more than any WORDS that come out of anyone's mouth. You know the saying, MOney talks and BS walks.

So, you don't think discussing this in the media doesn't draw attention from agents and players around the league and particularly the agents for these players. You are not going to excuse the excess talk and discussing these things publicly, when no one else does it, as accepted management. So yeah, I am smarter than those two because I would have kept my mouth shut and not started this in the first place.

 

[Bullflop]

Every sports talk show on TV, ESPN, FOX, NFL Network have been debating on how big a deal Dak will get for over a year. When Wentz signed his deal, that was the satrting point for Dak..... thats it, same draft, same position, same division... that is what drives these contracts. Maybe if all the owners and GMs didnt talk EVER, maybe we could still get our QB for 5 years and 14 million. Afterall..... its the talk that drives these contracts?

Telling Zeke and cooper they are about to get paid is like telling them water is wet. Who would of thunk big deals were coming for these guys. If we all keep quiet, I bet Jaylon wont ask for big dollars soon either.......smh

Yeah, well, it's not simply a matter of telling them they'll get paid -- they know that already . . . it's more a foolish matter of boasting repeatedly that they'll be paid generously and then requiring them to seriously consider a "team-friendly" deal. Big difference there, my friend. Words do matter, plenty. The media doesn't drive the contracts -- it's the CBA and those involved in the negotiating process that do, when push comes to shove.

 

[unionjack8]

Cooper should have been extended as part of the trade. It was dumb not to do it then.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

Cooper is the least valuable and most replaceable of the three . (zeke, dak, coop)

If Cooper wants elite money, they better cut him .