Bart Scott: "Dak Prescott hasn't even reached Alex Smith's level"

Smith blew out his shoulder the last time he signed a contract.
 
Dak is impressive , and a good QB ... but $30 million a year !?

Brady just resigned for $22 million .
 
He's not wrong.

They're essentially the same player, except Dak is a bit beefier and Alex has more arm talent. Their play styles are very similar. You won't get much in the way of good performances (which is not the same as results) from either unless the talent around them is good.
 
gjkoeppen said:
I noticed that you didn't say anything about your strong arm comment.
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Yes because I stand by what I said. I said strong arm doesnt just mean how far you can throw a football. Brett Favre had one of the strongest arms of all time but I bet you Mike Vick can throw further than him
 
BigCatMonaco said:
His absolute best season.


Smith tallied

27 TD
5 INT
4000 Yards passing


In daks rookie season

He tallied

29 TD
3 INT
3700 passing yards


He completed a higher percentage
He scored more TD
He had a higher Passer Rating
He led his team to 4 more wins.



All in his first year, as a 4th rounder compared to a veteran who was the number one overall pick.

You can take smiths 3 top passing TD seasons(only passing so daks 6 per don’t give him that unfair advantage) and they add up to 69 passing TD.
Dak has 67 just in his first three seasons.
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In Smith’s best season 2017, he led the entire league in passer rating. He led the entire league in int % which is important because he was attempting more passes than Dak his rookie season (500v450). Dak’s QBR his rookie year was 78. alex’s In 2017? 67. Seems to go in Dak’s favor overall. But you know what the problem is?

2017 was Alex’s last full year before the injuy. Rookie year Dak Prescott isn’t coming back, he’s regressed and it’s provable. His QBR last year even with 6 games of Amari Cooper? 58. Woof. Alex’s last full season was superior to Dak’s. That’s the point and he’s absolutely right.
 
Aerolithe_Lion said:
Better deep ball? Alex had the greatest deep ball on planet earth his last healthy season:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...hew-stafford-head-top-deepball-throwers-of-17

Superior deep ball? Where’s your source? That’s complete nonsense.
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Smith's deep ball was phenomenal that one year. Every other year he's been an inefficient deep passer. Admittedly Prescott doesn't take a ton of deep shots either, but he has been efficient when he has.
2018:
18-52
735 yards
8 TD’s
2 INT’s
106.57 passer rating
 
DakPresgoat said:
If he wants to make this comparison. That’s fine.

Let’s be accurate about it though.

Alex Smith was trash early in his career. He was absolutely terrible.

Alex Smith improved and got better as his career went on. This improvement didn’t really happen until he was in the league for like 5 or 6 years.

Dak’s level of play during his first 3 seasons. Was similar to Alex smith’s Level of play after he was in the league for like 6+ plus seasons and made dramatic
Improvements during that time.

So if he wants to compare Dak to Alex Smith, that’s fine. But if he was being honest about it. He would point out that Dak as a rookie/young player was playing as good as Alex Smith when Alex was at his peak after years and years of league experience.
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You have to remember that Smith was a #1 pick who went to the team bad enough to have the #1 pick. As such you can't really compare Smith's first three seasons to Dak's. Context matters.

Personally I think that generally speaking they are comparable in overall quality but have different strengths and weaknesses.

Today. Right now. I'd take Dak for his youth and health. If we were choosing between fourth year Smith and fourth year Dak I'd take Smith.
 
Not really involved in this debate.
I do know as of right now, all else equal, I'd take Dak over Smith due to his age.

Still, you guys that keep using Dak's rookie year and saying he was just a rookie to get extra credit, should now be just saying "Dak's best statistical year"....which was and still is his rookie year.
You no longer get extra credit for "rookie stats" if those stats mark your high point. It's now just "his best statistical year"...period.
The two are now one in the same.
 
ClintDagger said:
Usually when you’re drafted #1 to come into a horrible situation that has to be navigated for a few years. It’s not apples to apples to compare numbers or W/L. You’d have to extensively review film to fairly make that comparison.
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Last I checked...Dak came into a team that won 4 games the year before.
 
1SB win > all the empty stats of Smith, Prescott, Romo, Marino, Kelly, Meredith, Morton, Tarkenton, whomever.

Until if/when Dak leads an NFL team to a SB win, he’ll remain just another QB who didn’t get it done.

Pro sports are about winning...everything else is yada-yada BS.
 
Aerolithe_Lion said:
In Smith’s best season 2017, he led the entire league in passer rating. He led the entire league in int % which is important because he was attempting more passes than Dak his rookie season (500v450). Dak’s QBR his rookie year was 78. alex’s In 2017? 67. Seems to go in Dak’s favor overall. But you know what the problem is?

2017 was Alex’s last full year before the injuy. Rookie year Dak Prescott isn’t coming back, he’s regressed and it’s provable. His QBR last year even with 6 games of Amari Cooper? 58. Woof. Alex’s last full season was superior to Dak’s. That’s the point and he’s absolutely right.
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Riiiiiiight. What was Dak's QBR with Cooper last year? And why are we ignoring the post Cooper trend? Because it doesn't fit our idiotic narrative?
 
Aerolithe_Lion said:
In Smith’s best season 2017, he led the entire league in passer rating. He led the entire league in int % which is important because he was attempting more passes than Dak his rookie season (500v450). Dak’s QBR his rookie year was 78. alex’s In 2017? 67. Seems to go in Dak’s favor overall. But you know what the problem is?

2017 was Alex’s last full year before the injuy. Rookie year Dak Prescott isn’t coming back, he’s regressed and it’s provable. His QBR last year even with 6 games of Amari Cooper? 58. Woof. Alex’s last full season was superior to Dak’s. That’s the point and he’s absolutely right.
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The QB rating you cited is the ESPN rating system, not the standard one, but if you want to go with that, Alex Smith has only had 2 years in his 13 years in the league that were better than that. By the standard QB rating system, Dak had a 96.9 rating, and again, by that rating system, Smith has only had 2 years out of 13 that were better.
 
jazzcat22 said:
Bart Scott, just another ex player, talking head through his butt with Dallas Cowboys envy.
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Exactly. I am from NY. This guy has a sports radio show with another fat loud mouth in the afternoon. I won’t give the station. They were supposed to be the next big thing and flamed out after a couple months. Bart Scott is just a loud mouthed bomb thrower. Total and complete idiot.
 
armadillooutlaw said:
Smith's deep ball was phenomenal that one year. Every other year he's been an inefficient deep passer. Admittedly Prescott doesn't take a ton of deep shots either, but he has been efficient when he has.
2018:
18-52
735 yards
8 TD’s
2 INT’s
106.57 passer rating
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-*That one year* is Smith’s most recent full season, his most relevant year. Better than Dak.
 
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