Mike Martz presence in our pass offense?

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i'm hearing QB coach Jon Kitna interview on 105.3 the fan, and how he likes to input an aggressive mindset in this pass offense and letting it rip.

I hear the name of Kitna's past offensive coach Mike Martz coming up a lot and Kitna is made reference to how Martz approach is constantly pushing the ball vertically down the field. Getting the ball to your best offensive players. This won't be greatest show on turf. We are a run-attack team first. But i'd love to push and test defenses deep and get more away from the dink and dunk approach under Dak.

Though I've read articles of how Dak is the one that is liking the push ball down field and taking the deep shots, i'm more for believing Kitna has bought into and the one pushing these QBs to take more shots and getting the ball better into open spots, and how to better attack defenses.

Instead of committing to taking what the defense gives you- You take what you want from a defense.
you dictate and make the defense adjusts to you, rather than you have to alter your game and do what a defense wants you to do.

Even if it's a couple of incomplete overthrows, I really like the idea of taking far more shots over the top of defenses with quick strike TDs or big chunk plays, we don't stretch out the field and gain defenses respect and fear like we should. And it also opens up a lot of spacing upfront to give zeke more room to maneuver.

i'm excited to see what happens with this Moore/Kitna/Husseheimer (sp) Garrett coaching group.
It's sounds like a great plan upfront, worth seeing how it turns out.
 

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Yes, I like it as well. This attacking mindset will serve our run game well. I can see the aggressiveness in Dak so far in camp, I just hope that carries into the season.
 

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i'm hearing QB coach Jon Kitna interview on 105.3 the fan, and how he likes to input an aggressive mindset in this pass offense and letting it rip.

I hear the name of Kitna's past offensive coach Mike Martz coming up a lot and Kitna is made reference to how Martz approach is constantly pushing the ball vertically down the field. Getting the ball to your best offensive players. This won't be greatest show on turf. We are a run-attack team first. But i'd love to push and test defenses deep and get more away from the dink and dunk approach under Dak.

Though I've read articles of how Dak is the one that is liking the push ball down field and taking the deep shots, i'm more for believing Kitna has bought into and the one pushing these QBs to take more shots and getting the ball better into open spots, and how to better attack defenses.

Instead of committing to taking what the defense gives you- You take what you want from a defense.
you dictate and make the defense adjusts to you, rather than you have to alter your game and do what a defense wants you to do.

Even if it's a couple of incomplete overthrows, I really like the idea of taking far more shots over the top of defenses with quick strike TDs or big chunk plays, we don't stretch out the field and gain defenses respect and fear like we should. And it also opens up a lot of spacing upfront to give zeke more room to maneuver.

i'm excited to see what happens with this Moore/Kitna/Husseheimer (sp) Garrett coaching group.
It's sounds like a great plan upfront, worth seeing how it turns out.
Good stuff!!
 

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Not going to happen no matter what the talk is

Dak is a risk averse QB who has a tough time reading defenses and does not throw until he actually sees the receiver come open and does not use the middle middle at all

He is the limiting factor
He may even ‘want to’ do it but when the chips are down his conservative instincts will take over

Pair a conservative average QB with a conservative average HC on a talented team and you have a team that can make the playoffs but not the SB
 

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People forget Dallas had an attacking offense for the early Garrett years. This went away to A. Protect the defense and B. Protect Romo. The defense no longer needs protection and the offense should not be trying to win 16 1-possession ballgames as a grand strategy to protect Dak.
 

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Not going to happen no matter what the talk is

Dak is a risk averse QB who has a tough time reading defenses and does not throw until he actually sees the receiver come open and does not use the middle middle at all

He is the limiting factor
He may even ‘want to’ do it but when the chips are down his conservative instincts will take over

Pair a conservative average QB with a conservative average HC on a talented team and you have a team that can make the playoffs but not the SB
Alex Smith and Andy Reid disagree with you.
 

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Seems in TC they are taking a lot of shots downfield. I seen more misses than hits, but it is what TC is for. And many of those are attempts to the rookies. And from all the QB's, not just Dak.
Let's see it in some PS games, if Garrett plays Dak and let them go for it.
 

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IMO a mindset shift is what Dak needs to go to the next level. He intentionally holds back because he does not want to throw INTs. He needs to find a comfortable between taking risks and knowing when to take the short throw to keep the chains moving.

I would not be surprised if Kitna's talk about being aggressive and pushing the ball down the field is about changing how Dak plays the game.
 

TheMarathonContinues

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Alex Smith was a better thrower of the ball and Andy Reid is a million times better than Garrett

Your homerism and refusal to face the truth will not change the outcome

Wait and watch and get your excuses ready
Now wait a minute. Get back on track. Did you not just go on a whole spill about how a conservative quarterback can’t work in a high powered offense like a Martz offense?

Wait and watch and get your excuses ready lol.
 

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Explain Phillip?
Nothing to explain honeslty. Nobody has ever thought of Smith as some gunslinger and he was soo good of a QB the Chiefs traded up to find his replacement. Also Andy never won no SB to my knowledge as the head coach.
 

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Nothing to explain honeslty. Nobody has ever thought of Smith as some gunslinger and he was soo good of a QB the Chiefs traded up to find his replacement. Also Andy never won no SB to my knowledge as the head coach.

I never said Reid won the Super Bowl. See you guys jump into arguments and kind of just dive headfirst without reading all the posts.

And yeah the Chiefs were proactive on replacing Alex Smith who was 30+ and needed a new contract. That still doesn’t mean he had very good years under Reid. My point was Alex Smith was good in Reid’s offense despite him being conservative.
 

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Alex Smith and Andy Reid disagree with you.
1st off Andy Reid is an Offensive Genius

Alex Smith's QB Skill set, 2 years ago, is greater then Dak . . . Dak's only advantage is his Strength and Durability. His Running,That's the one thing that puts fear into a defense. Dak's only advantage. He'll never be able to read a defense and go through his progressions at an Elite Level . . . problem is this: our Strength, Zeke, is almost neutralized because of Dak's weakness plays into defensive scheame. Defenses scheaming for Dak is actually hampering Zeke all they have to do is Clog the middle and play containment with Dak.

If Zeke played with Alex the last 3 years He would have another 600 yds on his resume
 

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Giving Dak the green light to attack might save us from watching a late game 45 yard FG attempt to send it to OT
 
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