For those of you who hate Romo or Dak, what's your true motive in doing so?

[Vtwin]

As someone who’s rooted for every Cowboys QB who has been under center since Aikman - because, get this, I’m a COWBOYS fan - it’s always funny to me when a fan can’t bring himself to root for his favorite team’s QB.

Seems like it’d be a miserable way to live as an NFL fan, but to each their own.

Pretty obvious that there’s a certain segment of Dak haters who will never like Dak, no matter how much success he has. He could win 5 Super Bowls but it’ll always be, “any QB could do what he did with this great supporting cast!”

My opinion: Dak doesn’t “look the part” in their eyes. They have a mental image of what the Dallas Cowboys QB should look like, play like, sound like, etc.

In short, they’re complete scumbags whose opinions, frankly, don’t matter.

To clarify: this “certain segment” I’m referring to is a small minority of the overall database of Dak’s haters. Most Dak haters would gladly get on board if he became the next Russell Wilson and won a Super Bowl.

But I’m absolutely certain that there would still be SOME fans who would still dislike Dak as the Cowboys QB no matter what.

The aspect that your shallow view is missing is that one can root for the player while at the same time lack faith in the player.

I root for every player on the team. Some I have confidence in, some I hope prove me wrong. There is no hate. There is just an opinion on the player's value and skill level based on my experience as a longtime fan.

Agree or don't agree with my opinion. I don't care. Making it personal, attaching labels like hater, suggesting ulterior motives, is where it goes off the rails. That stuff only invites a response in the same vain and is poison to the forum.

I'll never understand why some are so threatened by a differing opinion they feel the need to personally attack. That's the real hate imo.

 

[CouchCoach]

Yeah I don't get this either. If I didn't want Prescott as our QB and EVERYTHING I said about him was critical it still wouldn't mean i hated the guy.

I think people throw that word around too loosely around here.

Shouldn't throw it around here at all.

 

[pacy]

You'll never get an honest answer from the vast majority of Dak (or Romo) haters.

Because their honest answer would probably look stupid.

 

[Big_D]

I actually really like Dak as a guy. My problem is this:

I thought Romo was statistically a 6-8th best QB in the league that got labeled as a loser because of a lack of team success and optics.

I think Dak is a 12-14th best QB in the league that has been labeled a winner because he’s had some team success early on in his career.

I feel like this is a completely reasonable viewpoint but those of us that try to express it are labeled as “Dak haters.” Or someone will bring up the team win loss record. (To me this is always the clearest indicator of a unintelligent sports fan. At least baseball fans now know pitcher win lose records are stupid. One day NFL fans will catch on. )

Well said. I wish Romo had the solid team building they have going on today. This is a much smarter run organization at the moment.

 

[zrinkill]

Most of them are just invested so much in wanting them to fail (usually because of arguments with other posters), that they cannot go back on it no matter how effective said quarterback is.

Of course none of them would ever admit it.

The rest are just trolls who are not worth anything but to spit at occasionally.

 

[JayFord]

I think we need to define the word hate a little better

I love Dak but it’s not hate if I say “he ain’t the best QB” or “he needs work” or “there’s better QBs out there”

There are some games where I get absolutely infuriated with Prescott’s lack of awareness In the pocket it’s not hate its well deserved critism

 

[Dallasfann]

...and that bus better not cost $35 million in it's current condition.

Anyone can drive a damn bus. If I'm paying my bus driver that much money he better also have a pilots license, and the bus better be heading to an air field so that he can fly me to my destination.

 

[Vtwin]

Most of them are just invested so much in wanting them to fail (usually because of arguments with other posters), that they cannot go back on it no matter how effective said quarterback is.

Of course none of them would ever admit it.

The rest are just trolls who are not worth anything but to spit at occasionally.

Lol.
One of my first posts, maybe even my first on this forum was a critiscm of safety Roy Williams as he clearly wasn't the same player he was. You jumped all over me accusing me of having an agenda. Repeatedly. History shows I was right. You were wrong.

So which of the types you describe are you?

 

[kumizi]

I’m not invested in Dak failing. I just think that in a salary cap sports, if you’re paying a 12-14th best QB in the league $35 million, perhaps that limits the success your team can have. I really hope he keeps improving to be worthy of that salary.

As someone who’s rooted for every Cowboys QB who has been under center since Aikman - because, get this, I’m a COWBOYS fan - it’s always funny to me when a fan can’t bring himself to root for his favorite team’s QB.

Seems like it’d be a miserable way to live as an NFL fan, but to each their own.

Pretty obvious that there’s a certain segment of Dak haters who will never like Dak, no matter how much success he has. He could win 5 Super Bowls but it’ll always be, “any QB could do what he did with this great supporting cast!”

My opinion: Dak doesn’t “look the part” in their eyes. They have a mental image of what the Dallas Cowboys QB should look like, play like, sound like, etc.

In short, they’re complete scumbags whose opinions, frankly, don’t matter.

To clarify: this “certain segment” I’m referring to is a small minority of the overall database of Dak’s haters. Most Dak haters would gladly get on board if he became the next Russell Wilson and won a Super Bowl.

But I’m absolutely certain that there would still be SOME fans who would still dislike Dak as the Cowboys QB no matter what.

I take offense to the picture you’re trying to paint.

To me, Dak “doesn’t look the part” because he can’t take a 5 step drop and zing a pass to an out route or slant with consistent accuracy. His inconsistent accuracy isn’t some narrative “Dak haters” have made up.

As a “Cowboy lover” I’d love to see them use more RPOs and rollouts to cater to his strengths.

 

[408Cowboy]

The aspect that your shallow view is missing is that one can root for the player while at the same time lack faith in the player.

I root for every player on the team. Some I have confidence in, some I hope prove me wrong. There is no hate. There is just an opinion on the player's value and skill level based on my experience as a longtime fan.

Agree or don't agree with my opinion. I don't care. Making it personal, attaching labels like hater, suggesting ulterior motives, is where it goes off the rails. That stuff only invites a response in the same vain and is poison to the forum.

I'll never understand why some are so threatened by a differing opinion they feel the need to personally attack. That's the real hate imo.

There are plenty of posters that migrated here from the old Board who were open about their hatred of Dak and why. I can't mention the reason due to it being a banned topic.

 

[JBond]

In this thread, I would like to ask that we avoid discussing things like stats, Super Bowls, playoff wins, QB rating, turnovers, efficiency on third down or so forth - we've already done those topics dozens of times before already. Whether Romo/Dak is clutch or not, good or bad, has been done to death. So no need to talk about that. We don't need to talk about the bobbled snap in Seattle or Dak's deep ball.


What I do want to talk about is this: Let's just address the elephant in the room. There is a certain segment of the Cowboys fanbase that quite openly hates Romo or Dak, and takes a personal vested interest in seeing to it that Romo's career is perceived as negatively as possible, or wants Dak to fail.

So - for those of you who do (and we all already know some posters who fit one of those descriptions - I won't name them by name, but you and we know who you are) - what's your real motive in this? Do you, as a Romo fan, feel that trashing Dak somehow elevates Romo? Do you, a Dak fan, feel that trashing Romo somehow elevates Dak?

What are your real motives? No need to be shy, let's hear them. I'm not starting this thread to be judgmental, I really do want to see what people's honest motives are here.

Lol. What a stupid thread. No fan wants the QB to fail. Holly crap, this a pathetic post. Pointing out areas of opportunity to get better doesn't mean we hate someone.

Stop being so sensitive.

Good grief..... So many fragile kids on this forum.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

I love them both.

 

[Big_D]

Lol. What a stupid thread. No fan wants the QB to fail. Holly crap, this a pathetic post. Pointing out areas of opportunity to get better doesn't mean we hate someone.

Stop being so sensitive.

Good grief..... So many fagile kids on this forum.

It's a fragile world we live in these days. lol

 

[CATCH17]

I like Dak but my problem is how he is over valued.

Having a salary cap and paying him elite QB money just doesn’t make sense to me.

I hate how the NFL makes the next free agent the highest paid in the league constantly.

 

[Vtwin]

There are plenty of posters that migrated here from the old Board who were open about their hatred of Dak and why. I can't mention the reason due to it being a banned topic.

Really?
That is so far from my reality I guess I very naively discount that as being so prevalent.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Lol. What a stupid thread. No fan wants the QB to fail. Holly crap, this a pathetic post. Pointing out areas of opportunity to get better doesn't mean we hate someone.

Stop being so sensitive.

Good grief..... So many fragile kids on this forum.

 

[Sydla]

The aspect that your shallow view is missing is that one can root for the player while at the same time lack faith in the player.

I root for every player on the team. Some I have confidence in, some I hope prove me wrong. There is no hate. There is just an opinion on the player's value and skill level based on my experience as a longtime fan.

Agree or don't agree with my opinion. I don't care. Making it personal, attaching labels like hater, suggesting ulterior motives, is where it goes off the rails. That stuff only invites a response in the same vain and is poison to the forum.

I'll never understand why some are so threatened by a differing opinion they feel the need to personally attack. That's the real hate imo.

This post is dead on and a ********* home run.

I hope Jeff Heath is a stud SS. But I also know that Jeff Heath likely won't be anything more than a mediocre safety in this league and I don't have a ton of faith in him.

To me, that's just reality. To some here, that's just "hate".

 

[Vtwin]

I made it clear that it’s a small minority of Dak’s haters. A minority of scumbags who don’t matter.

Don’t be naive. “Hate” is alive and well, and how someone looks or where they’re originally from will ALWAYS matter to a certain segment of fans.

I’m calling it out because the OP asked for honesty. If you don’t like it, put me on “ignore” and go back to pretending there aren’t any bad people who root for the Cowboys.

I know very well that hate is alive and well. It is ruining this forum. For different reasons than you suggest though.

I do admit that I may be naive in thinking that fans of the team would not accept a player for any reason other than his value to the team.

 

[Nav22]

I actually really like Dak as a guy. My problem is this:

I thought Romo was a 6-8th best QB in the league that got labeled as a loser because of a lack of team success and optics. (Technically, he was even higher based on numbers alone.)

I think Dak is a 12-14th best QB in the league that has been labeled a winner because he’s had some team success early on in his career.

I feel like this is a completely reasonable viewpoint but those of us that try to express it are labeled as “Dak haters.”

You say “Dak has been labeled a winner,” but I disagree.

To the majority of football fans/media, Dak is simply along for the ride. He might as well be the 100th-best QB in football, because “Zeke carries the team” and “anyone could succeed with this supporting cast.”

It’s sheer stupidity, just like it was when Romo was labeled a choking bum despite being one of the best QBs in football. Dak’s a good starting QB whose strong play has kept the Cowboys relevant since he took over for Romo.

Romo didn’t get his due and neither is Dak. Neither did Aikman, for that matter. It’s part of what comes with being the Cowboys QB, which is why it’s annoying when COWBOYS fans continue to underappreciate their team’s starting QB.

 

[Nav22]

I know very well that hate is alive and well. It is ruining this forum. For different reasons than you suggest though.

I do admit that I may be naive in thinking that fans of the team would not accept a player for any reason other than his value to the team.

Again, it’s a small minority, but they’re out there. This forum certainly isn’t immune to it.