Super Early 2019 Draft Revisit

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Before the draft this year, I read a many different opinions as to what position and/or who we should draft with our 1st pick. From a TE to DL, folks had their favorites. Add the fact our first pick was late in the 2nd rd, Dallas seemingly could have gone any direction. The talk seemed to lean more towards adding to our defense, exp after the drumming we received by the Rams.Safety seemed to be the majority vote, although many before last year were screaming for a top DT talent. As we all know, we did indeed draft a DT in Trysten Hill. I don't hate the pick, as he seems to have potential.. but its widely known that DT tend to take time to mature into star players, not to mention he will most certainly be regulated to rotational duties.

That said, I recently read an article by Gil Brandt as he opined who could be this years top Rookie risers. Tony Pollard (came in 4th place)headlined the article which caught my attention. Of course, I couldn't help also notice that KC S Juan Thornhill was ranked 3rd on this list (I encourage to read the article). Thornhill was the player I coveted before the draft. Dallas had the pick of the litter at the Safety position when they were on the clock.Yet as it turns out, they passed on all of them.

Now ,I don't by any means hate Jeff Heath like many on this forum. I believe he's a solid player and his value exceeds his contract status. In today's NFL and Cap manage, that goes long way in evaluation and roster building. Besides, our Boys demonstrated a very solid defense most of last year.. and yes, Heath was a starter. On the other hand, could we upgrade? Absolutely, hence all the Earl Thomas speculation. There again, salaries come into play. Even Earl Thomas supporters were teetering when they found out how much he was asking for.

I know this is the long way of saying... This is why I wanted a 'cheaper' solution and would have loved to have drafted a promising young safety like Thornhill.

That said, Dallas seemily has a "backlog" of talent along the DL. Of course, there was no way of knowing this at the time. Yet, it seems inevitable that Dallas will have to release a talented DL when roster cuts come around. If Dallas had a crystal ball, I'd like to think Dallas may have taken a Safety. My thought was.. if Xavier Woods becomes what he's shown during camp, Thornhill & Woods could have been dynamic duo at safety. This would have gone a long way to resolve our biggest problem on defense.. Turnovers. Heath could rotate in to cover TEs or obvious run plays.

I digress by saying.. I will be keeping a close eye on Thornhill and Trysten Hill careers. I realize drafting players isn't perfect science, but I'll be interested nonetheless.

Who was your pet cat in the draft? And how are they looking so far?
 

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Before the draft this year, I read a many different opinions as to what position and/or who we should draft with our 1st pick. From a TE to DL, folks had their favorites. Add the fact our first pick was late in the 2nd rd, Dallas seemingly could have gone any direction. The talk seemed to lean more towards adding to our defense, exp after the drumming we received by the Rams.Safety seemed to be the majority vote, although many before last year were screaming for a top DT talent. As we all know, we did indeed draft a DT in Trysten Hill. I don't hate the pick, as he seems to have potential.. but its widely known that DT tend to take time to mature into star players, not to mention he will most certainly be regulated to rotational duties.

That said, I recently read an article by Gil Brandt as he opined who could be this years top Rookie risers. Tony Pollard (came in 4th place)headlined the article which caught my attention. Of course, I couldn't help also notice that KC S Juan Thornhill was ranked 3rd on this list (I encourage to read the article). Thornhill was the player I coveted before the draft. Dallas had the pick of the litter at the Safety position when they were on the clock.Yet as it turns out, they passed on all of them.

Now ,I don't by any means hate Jeff Heath like many on this forum. I believe he's a solid player and his value exceeds his contract status. In today's NFL and Cap manage, that goes long way in evaluation and roster building. Besides, our Boys demonstrated a very solid defense most of last year.. and yes, Heath was a starter. On the other hand, could we upgrade? Absolutely, hence all the Earl Thomas speculation. There again, salaries come into play. Even Earl Thomas supporters were teetering when they found out how much he was asking for.

I know this is the long way of saying... This is why I wanted a 'cheaper' solution and would have loved to have drafted a promising young safety like Thornhill.

That said, Dallas seemily has a "backlog" of talent along the DL. Of course, there was no way of knowing this at the time. Yet, it seems inevitable that Dallas will have to release a talented DL when roster cuts come around. If Dallas had a crystal ball, I'd like to think Dallas may have taken a Safety. My thought was.. if Xavier Woods becomes what he's shown during camp, Thornhill & Woods could have been dynamic duo at safety. This would have gone a long way to resolve our biggest problem on defense.. Turnovers. Heath could rotate in to cover TEs or obvious run plays.

I digress by saying.. I will be keeping a close eye on Thornhill and Trysten Hill careers. I realize drafting players isn't perfect science, but I'll be interested nonetheless.

Who was your pet cat in the draft? And how are they looking so far?
Yeah, I would have drafted Thornhill over Trysten Hill also.
 

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Before the draft this year, I read a many different opinions as to what position and/or who we should draft with our 1st pick. From a TE to DL, folks had their favorites. Add the fact our first pick was late in the 2nd rd, Dallas seemingly could have gone any direction. The talk seemed to lean more towards adding to our defense, exp after the drumming we received by the Rams.Safety seemed to be the majority vote, although many before last year were screaming for a top DT talent. As we all know, we did indeed draft a DT in Trysten Hill. I don't hate the pick, as he seems to have potential.. but its widely known that DT tend to take time to mature into star players, not to mention he will most certainly be regulated to rotational duties.

That said, I recently read an article by Gil Brandt as he opined who could be this years top Rookie risers. Tony Pollard (came in 4th place)headlined the article which caught my attention. Of course, I couldn't help also notice that KC S Juan Thornhill was ranked 3rd on this list (I encourage to read the article). Thornhill was the player I coveted before the draft. Dallas had the pick of the litter at the Safety position when they were on the clock.Yet as it turns out, they passed on all of them.

Now ,I don't by any means hate Jeff Heath like many on this forum. I believe he's a solid player and his value exceeds his contract status. In today's NFL and Cap manage, that goes long way in evaluation and roster building. Besides, our Boys demonstrated a very solid defense most of last year.. and yes, Heath was a starter. On the other hand, could we upgrade? Absolutely, hence all the Earl Thomas speculation. There again, salaries come into play. Even Earl Thomas supporters were teetering when they found out how much he was asking for.

I know this is the long way of saying... This is why I wanted a 'cheaper' solution and would have loved to have drafted a promising young safety like Thornhill.

That said, Dallas seemily has a "backlog" of talent along the DL. Of course, there was no way of knowing this at the time. Yet, it seems inevitable that Dallas will have to release a talented DL when roster cuts come around. If Dallas had a crystal ball, I'd like to think Dallas may have taken a Safety. My thought was.. if Xavier Woods becomes what he's shown during camp, Thornhill & Woods could have been dynamic duo at safety. This would have gone a long way to resolve our biggest problem on defense.. Turnovers. Heath could rotate in to cover TEs or obvious run plays.

I digress by saying.. I will be keeping a close eye on Thornhill and Trysten Hill careers. I realize drafting players isn't perfect science, but I'll be interested nonetheless.

Who was your pet cat in the draft? And how are they looking so far?
I actually wanted Adderley as my number 1 safety. Thornhill and Rapp were good options too.

I love Leighton but the thought of Derwin James with Adderley/Thornhill.......wow.
 

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You didn’t need perfect science to pick Thornhill once he fell to you. All you needed was common sense. He was a much better and higher rated player at a position of equal need and didn’t carry any red flags. He was exactly what the team needed to fix a lingering problem on the defense. Hill can’t even outshine two guys who didn’t even get drafted. It’s still early but I can totally see him out the door behind Taco and those two being forever linked as draft mistakes in an era of otherwise great drafting.
 

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You didn’t need perfect science to pick Thornhill once he fell to you. All you needed was common sense. He was a much better and higher rated player at a position of equal need and didn’t carry any red flags. He was exactly what the team needed to fix a lingering problem on the defense. Hill can’t even outshine two guys who didn’t even get drafted. It’s still early but I can totally see him out the door behind Taco and those two being forever linked as draft mistakes in an era of otherwise great drafting.
The more you watch the NFL the more you realize you can’t be upset at the picks you didn’t make especially if you are realistic about the picks you didn’t want that turned out good. I did not see LVE coming at all. Not that fast anyway.
 

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The more you watch the NFL the more you realize you can’t be upset at the picks you didn’t make especially if you are realistic about the picks you didn’t want that turned out good. I did not see LVE coming at all. Not that fast anyway.

I agree but once in a while a no brainer pick is sitting there and the team passes. That was Thornhill.
 

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I agree but once in a while a no brainer pick is sitting there and the team passes. That was Thornhill.
Just do a quick Twitter search and the rave reviews come out for Thornhill.

Do the same for our top pick and you get ham-handed compliments without substance from the brainiacs that reached for him.

Well, at least Pollard is making some noise.
 

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Oh wow, the rue posts are starting again, as the LVE threads did a year ago. As the internet GM's chime in. :facepalm::banghead:
 

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I trust the drafting of the cowboys and rarely second guess, their past record is the envy of most teams especially with their top picks. This for sure has not always been the Jones family forte but there are other issues that make this point very low on the list of priorities. Zeke contract do we pay for a position that we can maybe fill with cheaper talent, Amari Cooper does he deserve a top WR contract, and Dak is he the future or a place holder much like Danny White?
 

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Just do a quick Twitter search and the rave reviews come out for Thornhill.

Do the same for our top pick and you get ham-handed compliments without substance from the brainiacs that reached for him.

Well, at least Pollard is making some noise.

Yep. That’s my whole point. They overthought the pick and needed excuses and twisted logic justifications to explain the pick. Writing Thornhill on the card and turning it in would have required nothing but high fives and big smiles. They could have not said a word and let everyone else justify the pick because it was a no brainer similar to when Steven Jackson fell to them when the conventional wisdom was they were a RB away from being a possible super bowl team. Passing on Thornhill for Hill may end up hurting as bad as passing on Jackson did back then.
 

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Yep. That’s my whole point. They overthought the pick and needed excuses and twisted logic justifications to explain the pick. Writing Thornhill on the card and turning it in would have required nothing but high fives and big smiles. They could have not said a word and let everyone else justify the pick because it was a no brainer similar to when Steven Jackson fell to them when the conventional wisdom was they were a RB away from being a possible super bowl team. Passing on Thornhill for Hill may end up hurting as bad as passing on Jackson did back then.

Or they simply just know more about drafting players than many people on here that think they know better. But I will give you the Jackson pick example as that was pre-Will McClay.
 

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I don't dislike our draft, I've loved the Pollard and J. Jackson picks from day one and think McGovern was a smart pick. Agree that Hill has potential but I favored Thornhill, Rapp, DK Metcalf and Isabella over Hill for that 2nd round pick.

Rapp's testing scared me but I thought he was a very safe pick to fit our scheme and be an upgrade over Heath. I loved Thornhill's potential but admittedly was a little nervous that his bust rate might be higher than some. I know everyone was saying defense or TE but our passing game in general needed an upgrade IMO and I think that if you added in a guy with a unique skill set like Metcalf or Isabella along with what Pollard brings to the table then it could help our offense move up a level.
 

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Yeh passing on Adderly and Thornhill was an absolute brain dead move. They had the tape to back up the measurables. Hill just has measurables and no tape.
 

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Going back to draft day, you'll find several of us wanted Thornhill.
Just seemed like a great fit for us.

Also, although I was fine with the McGovern pick in the 3rd, I was also thinking Amani Hooker or Chancey Gardner-Johnson were possible there.

Was even hoping wed trade up for Hooker in the 4th

Our 4th rounder worked out fine though
 
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