Salary cap if there's a new CBA

[Bizwah]

I think it's a given that there will be a lock out when the CBA contract ends (2021??? not sure when). I know the cap will remain in place. The owners love how it's kept a competitive league.

The real question will be, "how much more of the total revenues will go to the players?" If it's a significant amount, and the cap goes up significantly, then any deal signed by Dak and Zeke may actually be ok.

I'm not well-learned on the cap and how the CBA works. I just wonder if Jerry is keeping any possible rise in the cap in mind when negotiating with the players.

 

[dargonking999]

Actually Jerry's already said that part of the reason they are having issues with signing Dak, and Amari is that with the new CBA on the way, they are unsure of how it will affect the cap and so they are trying to keep from backloading contracts as much as possible to prevent any issues with the new CBA. But since we don't have alot of cap space now we can't front load it, so its making things complicated.

 

[gmoney112]

Yeah, the cap is increasing like $7-10million every season. We can pay Dak, Cooper and Zeke even if it just continues like it does now.

I mean, the cap now is tied to revenue, but there's different splits based on what kind, with players getting 47% or something.

I imagine with how revenue is expected to grow in 2020s, they'll agree to an incremental increase in the overall split (since increased revenue for owners covers increasingly more than team costs outside of player acquisition).

I can't imagine cap doesn't go up. We'd be pretty fine anyway on cap, but it's probably going to end up increasing more than it does now. So as long as the deals aren't full on donkey brains, we're good.

 

[AbeBeta]

Actually Jerry's already said that part of the reason they are having issues with signing Dak, and Amari is that with the new CBA on the way, they are unsure of how it will affect the cap and so they are trying to keep from backloading contracts as much as possible to prevent any issues with the new CBA. But since we don't have alot of cap space now we can't front load it, so its making things complicated.

Oh boy, someone loves buying an owner's argument over what the workers can plainly see.

Owners are pooping in gold toilets but they are so concerned about the new CBA and that the cap won't rise. Right.

 

[Reality]

Oh boy, someone loves buying an owner's argument over what the workers can plainly see.

Owners are pooping in gold toilets but they are so concerned about the new CBA and that the cap won't rise. Right.

I think they are more worried about the salary cap impact from the upcoming CBA, not the actual money.

Also, there are plenty of wealthy players who probably have gold toilets too, so stop acting like only one side of argument is rich.

 

[JBond]

I think it's a given that there will be a lock out when the CBA contract ends (2021??? not sure when). I know the cap will remain in place. The owners love how it's kept a competitive league.

The real question will be, "how much more of the total revenues will go to the players?" If it's a significant amount, and the cap goes up significantly, then any deal signed by Dak and Zeke may actually be ok.

I'm not well-learned on the cap and how the CBA works. I just wonder if Jerry is keeping any possible rise in the cap in mind when negotiating with the players.

Well... with an 18 game season it will have to go up. 53 active and 60 on a team. Then they will have to cover 2 additional game checks for every player under contract. Maybe throw in some high quality weed and they could avoid a strike/lockout.

 

[AbeBeta]

I think they are more worried about the salary cap impact from the upcoming CBA, not the actual money.

Also, there are plenty of wealthy players who probably have gold toilets too, so stop acting like only one side of argument is rich.

Yeah. Wealthy players. Plenty of them with the sort of money that owners have.

Gee, you'd think that ex-players would be breaking into ownership left and right with that sort of bank!

But they aren't.

Use your mentality. Wake up to reality.

 

[JBond]

Yeah. Wealthy players. Plenty of them with the sort of money that owners have.

Gee, you'd think that ex-players would be breaking into ownership left and right with that sort of bank!

But they aren't.

Use your mentality. Wake up to reality.

Very few employees end up buying the company. There are employers and employees. Wake up to reality.

 

[AbeBeta]

Very few employees end up buying the company. There are employers and employees. Wake up to reality.

Very few employees make teams the sort of money that athletes do. Yet they rarely make enough to own a team.

This isn't a job pushing paper. It's your work making millions for the owners.

Please don't compare that to other jobs. It is just a meaninglessness comparison

 

[JBond]

Very few employees make teams the sort of money that athletes do. Yet they rarely make enough to own a team.

This isn't a job pushing paper. It's your work making millions for the owners.

Please don't compare that to other jobs. It is just a meaninglessness comparison

Based on scale it is very accurate. The employees are making millions.

Your premise is the owner of the company didn't pay enough for the employee of the company to buy the owner out. It is a faulty premise. Wake up to reality.

Who is going to buy the Cowboys? They are employees.

To carry it further, you are willing to pay enough to your employees that they push you out and take over the company you built? Doubt it.

 

[Reality]

Yeah. Wealthy players. Plenty of them with the sort of money that owners have.

Gee, you'd think that ex-players would be breaking into ownership left and right with that sort of bank!

But they aren't.

Use your mentality. Wake up to reality.

I really cannot understand why you are such a hateful and angry person.

In any case, I never said players were as wealthy as owners, but many players are indeed quite wealthy. Once someone is rich, their level of richness becomes less relevant, especially to the billions of us who are not.

As I have said many times, I don't blame players for trying to get everything they can as most people do that with their jobs.

I think you are so concerned with bashing the owners (and fans) though that you really do forget there are constraints in place due to the salary cap and it is quite possible (and quite likely) that the way the salary cap works will change considerably after the next CBA.

Both sides already have their list of "wants" for the next CBA and the compromise for those wants will likely result in some major changes to a variety of systems, including the salary cap, that have been in place a while.

From a team standpoint, it's very understandable they are concerned that deals they make now may create major problems later if they are back loaded.

Personally, I hope both sides get what they want and I hope they work it out before its too late, but in the end, I really don't care what the owners think or what they pay players and I don't really care what the players think and what they demand from owners.

I am a sports fan and if players hold out or go on strike, there are plenty more sports to watch including football.

Eventually, it will get worked out and who "wins" really does not matter to me because I don't have an agenda, especially when it comes to rich players' and owners' problems.

 

[Reid1boys]

I think they are more worried about the salary cap impact from the upcoming CBA, not the actual money.

Also, there are plenty of wealthy players who probably have gold toilets too, so stop acting like only one side of argument is rich.

Yeah. Wealthy players. Plenty of them with the sort of money that owners have.

Gee, you'd think that ex-players would be breaking into ownership left and right with that sort of bank!

But they aren't.

Use your mentality. Wake up to reality.

no EMPLOYEE should be making what the owner of the business makes. Not sure what you are thinking. Players are paid very well for what they do. When they leave the NFL, 98% will never sniff the kind of money they made while in the NFL. Name me any major business and then tell me the non management EMPLOYEES that are making anywhere close to the money that an owner makes.

 

[Reid1boys]

Very few employees make teams the sort of money that athletes do. Yet they rarely make enough to own a team.

This isn't a job pushing paper. It's your work making millions for the owners.

Please don't compare that to other jobs. It is just a meaninglessness comparison

Tom Cruise is paid quite well for his movie roles. I dont see him owning Paramount Pictures anytime soon. If every player in the nfl were to die TOMORROW..... we would have NFL football next year and the league wouldnt miss a beat.

 

[JBond]

Sounds like a few folks that had to actually meet a payroll are responding. Interesting.

 

[Vanilla2]

I think they are more worried about the salary cap impact from the upcoming CBA, not the actual money.

Also, there are plenty of wealthy players who probably have gold toilets too, so stop acting like only one side of argument is rich.

Billionaires vs millionaires.

Both rich, but one side is helping wrote your laws

 

[AbeBeta]

Tom Cruise is paid quite well for his movie roles. I dont see him owning Paramount Pictures anytime soon. If every player in the nfl were to die TOMORROW..... we would have NFL football next year and the league wouldnt miss a beat.

Umm. Yeah. Tom Cruise's production company made him like 100 mill. So ... crap example

 

[JD_KaPow]

I think it's a given that there will be a lock out when the CBA contract ends (2021??? not sure when). I know the cap will remain in place. The owners love how it's kept a competitive league.

The owners love it because it artificially reduces player salaries and because the gullible fans believe them when they say its purpose is to keep the league competitive.

 

[Shinaoi]

It makes me wonder how much the other owners were watching the zeke situation and wondering if this will become the new status quo in the nfl.

 

[Jake]

I think it's a given that there will be a lock out when the CBA contract ends (2021??? not sure when). I know the cap will remain in place. The owners love how it's kept a competitive league.

The real question will be, "how much more of the total revenues will go to the players?" If it's a significant amount, and the cap goes up significantly, then any deal signed by Dak and Zeke may actually be ok.

I'm not well-learned on the cap and how the CBA works. I just wonder if Jerry is keeping any possible rise in the cap in mind when negotiating with the players.

The NFL's multi-billion dollar national TV contracts are shared equally, unlike baseball where one team can make 10 times as much (or more) than a smaller team.

That's what keeps the NFL competitive. The salary cap keeps owners incredibly rich.

 

[DogFace]

Billionaires vs millionaires.

Both rich, but one side is helping wrote your laws

Very true and troubling to me.