Rumor: Zeke Turns Down Contract

tyke1doe

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If it's true and I don't know who this guy is then I let him sit and we move on with the season. Tired of talking about it.
It’s more than likely true

Anytime you hear the Jones sound optimistic trust me someone in the media is about to report something that’ll damage this team

I fully belive Elliott turned down that deal and we won’t see him unless we start 0-3
 

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Should have offered a dollar more than gurly. But maybe this is the last and final offer.

It better be cause if JJ or SJ planned on paying him anyways and costs us football games lowballing then I will be very upset with this FO.

Bottom line is if your going to pay him then pay him now and get him ready for opening day. Learn from the ES deal, don’t wait and see how we do without him and run out and sign him if we get off bad to start the he season. You pulled this crap last season with no #1 WR and it almost cost you the season.

Pay him now or stand by your guns.
 

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Is this 2nd highest paid in guaranteed money? They can offer anything but the only thing that matters is that guarantee.

And Booger has a good reason to be gun shy about that guarantee with Elliott's history off the field. I also wonder if they've discussed a clause in the contract that addresses that? This might not be just about the money but conditions within the contract.

I know some of you want him there but isn't there that part of you that wants to see the QB, OC and Offense without him? Don't be so sold that they can't be successful without him until you see proof of that and we might just get to see that. And I hope they've been preparing as if he's not coming in instead of the opposite.
 

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How in the world can you blame the front office?

Let's see:
Has past issues that the owner goes to bat for over and over - check
Has issues in offseason again - check
Has 2 years left on deal - check
Already been paid a big chunk of money - check
Demands new contract after barely slipping by another suspension - check
Gets butt hurt over a joke - check

But sure...failure on owner and not knucklehead player and turd agent.

You forgot one:

Make an unnecessary, stupid comment then backpedal when the player takes you at your word - check.

 

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Zeke will either get more guarantee money than Gurley or will get paid about $1 million more than Gurley.
The fact that the Cowboys have given Zeke and offer he can reject is PROGRESS!
Rule of thumb in negotiating: Never take the first offer. Zeke knows this. Zeke's agent knows this. Jerry knows this. And Stephen knows this.

Chillax, fanboys. This is going to get done.
This was the team's second offer.
 

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Is this 2nd highest paid in guaranteed money? They can offer anything but the only thing that matters is that guarantee.

And Booger has a good reason to be gun shy about that guarantee with Elliott's history off the field. I also wonder if they've discussed a clause in the contract that addresses that? Yhis might not be just about the money but conditions within the contract.

I know some of you want him there but isn't there that part of you that wants to see the QB, OC and Offense without him? Don't be so sold that they can't be successful without him until you see proof of that and we might just get to see that. And I hope they've been preparing as if he's not coming in instead of the opposite.
Yea I don't think we make the playoffs without him but it would be good to see how the team responds especially Dak.
 

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Gurley:

2015 - Games 13 Games Started 12 Rush 229 Yards 1106 Yards Avg 4.8 Yards/Game 85.1
2016 - Games 16 Games Started 16 Rush 278 Yards 885 Yards Avg 3.2 Yards/Game 55.3
2017 - Games 15 Games Started 15 Rush 279 Yards 1305 Yards Avg 4.7 Yards/Game 87.0
2018 - Games 14 Games Started 14 Rush 256 Yards 1271 Yards Avg 4.8 Yards/Game 89.4

Elliott:

2016 - Games 15 Games Started 15 Rush 322 Yards 1631 Yards Avg 5.1 Yards/Game 108.7
2017 - Games 10 Games Started 10 Rush 242 Yards 983 Yards Avg 4.1 Yards/Game 98.3
2018 - Games 15 Games Started 15 Rush 304 Yards 1434 Yards Avg 4.7 Yards/Game 95.6

Zeke has played in 6 less games
Gurley has 499 more yards
Zeke averages 4.7 per carry over Gurley's 4.4
Zeke's per game rushing is 101.2 vs Gurley's 78.4

Posting one game or one carry and suggesting that tells you which is the better back is disingenuous

Were Zeke to have those extra six games, he would be leading Gurley by 100 yards in one less season.

But to make this even more apparent. Zeke has 111 less carries than Emmitt in the same time frame of the first three years. Emmitt has 165 yards more than Zeke in six more games.

Zeke is the best running back in the league. The size of the paycheck indicates how the team values the player. The Rams overpaid Gurley. That is not Zeke's fault.
 

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https://law.vanderbilt.edu/news/clay-travis-04-playing-to-his-strengths/

Travis may be tweeting correct information. Travis is a history major, lawyer, author, columnist and sports talk show host.

Travis is not a journalist. Travis can call himself a journalist. Others may label him a journalist. However, simply writing and publishing/reporting information does not make anyone a journalist.
Lol what? I think you need to look up the definition of journalist
 

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It would only take 15m a year to be highest paid. 5y/75m? 100% he gets that on the open market. Probably more due to the bidding war. Leveon Bell hasn’t played in a year, is 3 years older than Zeke, has a major injury history, has never been close to leading the league in rushing, and still got over 13.

The Seahawks paid Marshawn Lynch 12 million a year, 5 years ago. Now they could get a better, 24 yr old Marshawn for only 15? Not close to the inflation of QB, DT, DE contracts in that span. They’re built on a heavy run game maybe even more than you. Even though they have 2 good young RBs, I bet they’d jump on that.

What would the packers be with Zeke? SUBSTANITALLY more dangerous. How about the Colts? The Vikings? The Chiefs even.

Make no mistake, Jerry’s leverage is 2 years left on Zeke’s rookie deal, not what he’s asking for. Because what Jerry’s offering is not what he’s worth... he deserves to set the market based on his talent, his play, and his lack of injuries.

The issue is that if a player wants a contract early (i.e. With 2 years remaining under contract) then the player needs to take a "team friendly" deal.

If Zeke was an unrestricted free agent, then he should get more than Bell, but he must wait to get to UFA status.
 

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I was reading yesterday that Jerry could totally ruin Zeke’s career and Zeke would never see a NFL football field again . At this point Jerry should not make anymore contact with his agent and I would start making plans without him. It is time to stand up against greed. I had rather tank the season than see Jerry give in to Zeke.

And Jerry Jones is not greedy?
This idea that players are "greedy" because they request to be paid according to their value is an interesting argument.
So it's okay for owners to rake in BILLIONS, to cut players, effectively ending how much they will be paid according to their contracts, to "deny" players guaranteed contracts - which basketball and baseball players have, and many would argue football players need MORE because the wear and tear on their bodies are GREATER than that of the other two sports - and to make outside advertising deals and other financial agreements that put more in their pockets.
But players are greedy? :huh:
 

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Gurley:

2015 - Games 13 Games Started 12 Rush 229 Yards 1106 Yards Avg 4.8 Yards/Game 85.1
2016 - Games 16 Games Started 16 Rush 278 Yards 885 Yards Avg 3.2 Yards/Game 55.3
2017 - Games 15 Games Started 15 Rush 279 Yards 1305 Yards Avg 4.7 Yards/Game 87.0
2018 - Games 14 Games Started 14 Rush 256 Yards 1271 Yards Avg 4.8 Yards/Game 89.4

Elliott:

2016 - Games 15 Games Started 15 Rush 322 Yards 1631 Yards Avg 5.1 Yards/Game 108.7
2017 - Games 10 Games Started 10 Rush 242 Yards 983 Yards Avg 4.1 Yards/Game 98.3
2018 - Games 15 Games Started 15 Rush 304 Yards 1434 Yards Avg 4.7 Yards/Game 95.6

Zeke has played in 6 less games
Gurley has 499 more yards
Zeke averages 4.7 per carry over Gurley's 4.4
Zeke's per game rushing is 101.2 vs Gurley's 78.4

Posting one game or one carry and suggesting that tells you which is the better back is disingenuous

Were Zeke to have those extra six games, he would be leading Gurley by 100 yards in one less season.

But to make this even more apparent. Zeke has 111 less carries than Emmitt in the same time frame of the first three years. Emmitt has 165 yards more than Zeke in six more games.

Zeke is the best running back in the league. The size of the paycheck indicates how the team values the player. The Rams overpaid Gurley. That is not Zeke's fault.

Zeke has not played in 6 fewer games, your stats say he’s played in 18 fewer games. 18 fewer games and only 500 fewer yards. Those two are not close in pure running stats. But Gurley is far more than a running back.
 

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Is this 2nd highest paid in guaranteed money? They can offer anything but the only thing that matters is that guarantee.

And Booger has a good reason to be gun shy about that guarantee with Elliott's history off the field. I also wonder if they've discussed a clause in the contract that addresses that? This might not be just about the money but conditions within the contract.

I know some of you want him there but isn't there that part of you that wants to see the QB, OC and Offense without him? Don't be so sold that they can't be successful without him until you see proof of that and we might just get to see that. And I hope they've been preparing as if he's not coming in instead of the opposite.
Like I said. Don’t lowball if your gonna pay him anyways. If your going to pay him then do it.

Did it last year at WR and had to run out and trade for one.
 

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If he only cares about money, then trade him to the bucs, bills, or jets. Let him get his money and his *** kicked. I am sure he would like that more than being a contender in Dallas.

I've always felt like the Bills would be the best trading partner for Zeke. They are desperate for any media attention.

Trade Zeke (with his current contract) for a 2nd rounder and TJ Yeldon, Shady or Gore.
 

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Stephen jones opened his mouth in public now its either pay zeke and set the market for running backs or let him set and trade him and draft someone else the problem with this is this team is ready to win now with out zeke they are a 8 and 8 or 9 and 7 team even with him I still don't think they are superbowl contenders because I still don't believe the qb and the coaches are good enough
 

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I've always felt like the Bills would be the best trading partner for Zeke. They are desperate for any media attention.

Trade Zeke (with his current contract) for a 2nd rounder and TJ Yeldon, Shady or Gore.
Nobody is going to trade for him unless they reach a deal with him. They aren't Jerry who trades a #1 draft pick for a player and doesn't even lock him up.
 
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