Dak is now 1-10 as a Cowboys starter when the Cowboys trail by 10 or more in the 1st half

khiladi

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Analytics and stats lie. You stated in your brilliant comment about being second to NE in the fourth quarter.

This game was lost by spotting the Vikings 14 points in the first quarter. Otherwise, using your stats dancing, Dallas allowed the Vikings to only score 14 points in three quarters.

See how that works?

Your comment is asinine. The offense was also complete garbage the first quarter when the Vikings scored 14 points.

The reality is this defense gave the ball back in the fourth, meaning they provide the stop when needed for the offense to win the game. We choked in the red zone twice in the FOURTH.
 

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Hey guys ....... Dak is 1-10 when playing on the 3rd Sunday of the month and when it's a full moon after his second cousins birthday on a day that the OP has diarrhea.

Seriously.

I mean it.
 

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Not good numbers at all for a NFL QB which means if you are a betting man, you can check the game in progress and make a live bet that the team ahead will win the game. Those are not good numbers for a starting QB

Yeah bro, Dak really blew it last night lol. Troll on.
 

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Not good numbers at all for a NFL QB which means if you are a betting man, you can check the game in progress and make a live bet that the team ahead will win the game. Those are not good numbers for a starting QB

A real betting man would know the entire NFL is 5-57-1 this season when down 10+ in the first half. :laugh:
 

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It's not Dak's fault. It is the coaching staff's fault. They tie Dak's hands until they fall behind and then makes Dak dig the team out of a hole. If they led with the passing game more the team would be better.

How exactly did they tie his hands? There was a stretch where Moore had Dak throw a couple go routes against man coverage to try and open things up for the offense.

On the first series, they had a pass dominant drive that was 5-3 pass-run ratio. To start the second, they threw 4 times and ran once. Dak basically shined on third and LONG, but that was against man coverage and he had all day to throw with Vikings CBs on islands.
 

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This doesn't say that the O line failed to block on 2nd down and dak made a great play to not take a sack. It also doesn't say that witten got tackled in the endzone and the PI wasn't called. It was a good attempt tho.

It also doesn’t say Dallas got a freebie on a bogus holding call on Witten when Dak got sacked on a third down that would have essentially ended the game.

Or Vikings third stringer dropped a sure pick 6 that would has put them up 21-0 either. Not sure what your excuses about the defense means in this context.. but I guess good attempt though.
 

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How exactly did they tie his hands? There was a stretch where Moore had Dak throw a couple go routes against man coverage to try and open things up for the offense.

On the first series, they had a pass dominant drive that was 5-3 pass-run ratio. To start the second, they threw 4 times and ran once. Dak basically shined on third and LONG, but that was against man coverage and he had all day to throw with Vikings CBs on islands.

They run way too often on first down, which gets you behind the chains when Zeke isn't running well. They don't use nearly enough play action despite Dak being statistically one of the best play action qbs in the league. As a baseline, they should be throwing 60%+ and at least half those throws should be play action.
 

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It also doesn’t say Dallas got a freebie on a bogus holding call on Witten when Dak got sacked on a third down that would have essentially ended the game.

Or Vikings third stringer dropped a sure pick 6 that would has put them up 21-0 either. Not sure what your excuses means in this context.. but I guess good attempt though.
You salty or nah? I'm just saying why the passes were incomplete. Your love for romo is clouding your judgement.
 

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Your comment is asinine. The offense was also complete garbage the first quarter when the Vikings scored 14 points.

The reality is this defense gave the ball back in the fourth, meaning they provide the stop when needed for the offense to win the game. We choked in the red zone twice in the FOURTH.

Its asinine because it shatters your point. The OC called the wrong plays twice in a row then tried a hero call to get five yards.

So, since we are just tossing shart against the wall. Why not line up and put a TE next to Collins and two WR's to that outside, then run a sweep left, then have Dak run the naked bootleg for those two yards? You have essentially stopped the right DE from moving to his left and run off the DBs.

It was bad play calling. And your pointing fingers at Dak is simplistic and emotional. Nothing more.
 

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They run way too often on first down, which gets you behind the chains when Zeke isn't running well. They don't use nearly enough play action despite Dak being statistically one of the best play action qbs in the league. As a baseline, they should be throwing 60%+ and at least half those throws should be play action.


play action is set up by an effective run game and it’s why Goff is sucking up the joint, because they run Gurley max, about 12 times a game, despite being heavy play action offense.

The reality is defenses devote extra resources up front against Dallas, while teams when playing the Rams are basically playing two safeties all game.
 

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Its asinine because it shatters your point. The OC called the wrong plays twice in a row then tried a hero call to get five yards.

So, since we are just tossing shart against the wall. Why not line up and put a TE next to Collins and two WR's to that outside, then run a sweep left, then have Dak run the naked bootleg for those two yards? You have essentially stopped the right DE from moving to his left and run off the DBs.

It was bad play calling. And your pointing fingers at Dak is simplistic and emotional. Nothing more.

Only in your mind does utterly irrelevant comments shatter my point. The defense held in the fourth and gave the ball back to the offense. Your utterly asinine point has no bearing on the fact Dallas is the second ranked defenses in fourth quarter scoring. They are NOT choking away games.

The defense had no bearing on the play call and whether or not Dak could have audibled out of it.

You have no clue what your even talking about at this point.
 

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play action is set up by an effective run game and it’s why Goff is sucking up the joint, because they run Gurley max, about 12 times a game, despite being heavy play action QB.

The reality is defenses devote extra resources up front against Dallas, while teams when playing the Rams are basically playing two safeties all game.
The notion that you need a great running game for play action to be effective has been debunked.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2018/rushing-success-and-play-action-passing
 

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The notion that you need a great running game for play action to be effective has been debunked.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2018/rushing-success-and-play-action-passing

No it hasn’t.

First of all, this article basically states play action is EFFECTIVE across the board, meaning it applies to every QB. Secondly, the guy concluded that he has no clue that if one increased the usage, how it would impact the effectiveness of play action.

He gives an example of two games, including the Eagles and Jaguars. And I provided an example of how Goff is crapping the bed in 2019, so yeah..
 

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No it hasn’t.

First of all, this article basically states play action is EFFECTIVE across the board, meaning it applies to every QB. Secondly, the guy concluded that he has no clue that if one increased the usage, how it would impact the effectiveness of play action.

He gives an example of two games, including the Eagles and Jaguars. And I provided an example of how Goff is crapping the bed in 2019, so yeah..

What do you mean 2 games? It is eight years of data.
 

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What do you mean 2 games? It is eight years of data.

No, it’s obvious you have no clue what your talking about. Your attempts to try and argue that Dak is supposedly a master of an art that is not used enough for him is a crock of garbage. All this guy did is essentially argue play action is generally effective and concludes the following. It also doesn’t take into account the type of defense one goes up against.

The recently-concluded 2017 playoffs may provide a glimpse into a future where play-action is more common. The Eagles attempted 21 play-action passesin the Super Bowl on 43 dropbacks (49 percent). Frequent use of play-action (33 percent of dropbacks against the Patriots and 54 percent against the Steelers) also helped the Jaguars score 65 points across two playoff games and nearly reach the Super Bowl. In the constant search for advantages in a competitive league, play-action passing appears to be an under-utilized edge.

Plus the Cowboys are general ranked the highest with Dak in terms of okay action, meaning they use it more than others teams PERCENTAGE wise. In Linehan’s first year they were top three.
 
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Not good numbers at all for a NFL QB which means if you are a betting man, you can check the game in progress and make a live bet that the team ahead will win the game. Those are not good numbers for a starting QB
I would imagine very few (if any) QBs have a good record when trailing by 10 or more in the 1st half..
 

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Not good numbers at all for a NFL QB which means if you are a betting man, you can check the game in progress and make a live bet that the team ahead will win the game. Those are not good numbers for a starting QB
actually I did a little more research and it turns out that his one win was when the moon was at the 38'44" angles to earth north pole axis and all the losses when the angle was smaller. the closest of the ten losses was when the moon was at 34'32" angle...….so it seems like the losses are indirectly related to the angle of the moon to earth!!!! :grin:
 
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