Beating Marinelli's Scheme

[buybuydandavis]

I thought I'd run a strategy by you all for beating Marinelli.

His whole shtick is getting his defense upfield through a gap and run defending "on the way to the QB". Ok. Use that against him.

Either a defender is in a gap you plan to hit with the RB, or not.
If yes, block.
If not, usher the dlineman upfield *where he's trying to go* and go block a LB.

Unlike a two gap which holds a line of defense across the LOS, Marinelli's one gap rush is vacating the LOS if they can manage to get upfield. So let them. Help them. Help the *right* ones.

Teams seem to abuse us in the run game by getting up on our LBs. Eberflus simply spanked us that way. How? Should be one defender trying to get upfield somewhere the play ain't going. That's one blocker who can go looking for a LB.

There was talk about the Rams having "tells" on our dline. Do you really need tells? Just react on where the dlineman lines up and tries to go. If the dlineman is going somewhere the ball ain't, help him get there, and go block a LB. Or just another lineman.

I'm sure it's not quite so simple, but I do think this is the basic strategy to use against Marinelli. Use the attempt get upfield past the oline to your advantage.

 

[Brooksey]

I prefer some two gap defense with a rush coming off the edge but it's not happening this year anyway

 

[DuncanIso]

The Dallas defense is Basic.

No one is fooled.

Its all Cover 1 or 3.

Man or zone.

We see the odd LB or slot blitz a few times.

That's about it.

Everyone is playing 1 gap.

The DEs don't contain, so the outside is always open.

 

[CWR]

Teams have been letting our "rushmen" run right by them while they hit huge holes for awhile now. Im not sure if it started vs Colts but since that game we've been exposed several times.

I also think this defense is detrimental to our LBS. We need to keep em clean and utilize their strengths.

We need a more effective defense scheme.

 

[atlantacowboy]

I thought I'd run a strategy by you all for beating Marinelli.

His whole shtick is getting his defense upfield through a gap and run defending "on the way to the QB". Ok. Use that against him.

Either a defender is in a gap you plan to hit with the RB, or not.
If yes, block.
If not, usher the dlineman upfield *where he's trying to go* and go block a LB.

Unlike a two gap which holds a line of defense across the LOS, Marinelli's one gap rush is vacating the LOS if they can manage to get upfield. So let them. Help them. Help the *right* ones.

Teams seem to abuse us in the run game by getting up on our LBs. Eberflus simply spanked us that way. How? Should be one defender trying to get upfield somewhere the play ain't going. That's one blocker who can go looking for a LB.

There was talk about the Rams having "tells" on our dline. Do you really need tells? Just react on where the dlineman lines up and tries to go. If the dlineman is going somewhere the ball ain't, help him get there, and go block a LB. Or just another lineman.

I'm sure it's not quite so simple, but I do think this is the basic strategy to use against Marinelli. Use the attempt get upfield past the oline to your advantage.

The "tells" in the Ram game where huge b/c Goff would know where the stunts would be coming from pre-snap or whether there would be a stunt at all. Its easy to run the ball if you know whose running a stunt. Somehow nobody on the cowboys sideline got a clue as to how the Rams were always guessing right and running at the vacated area. The cowboys never did figure it out. We only know b/c the Rams OL were joking about it in the media after the game.

As for Marinelli's defense............ it doesn't work without high level DTs. We all know he had 2 great DTs in Tampa......he had Henry Melton in Chicago who was a top 3 DT at the time. The defense looked a lot better when Irving was in there healthy. Woods and Collins are JAGS. Bennett is 34-35 and half the player he used to be. Its not going to work and hasn't worked against teams with good OLs.

 

[buybuydandavis]

The "tells" in the Ram game where huge b/c Goff would know where the stunts would be coming from pre-snap or whether there would be a stunt at all. Its easy to run the ball if you know whose running a stunt. Somehow nobody on the cowboys sideline got a clue as to how the Rams were always guessing right and running at the vacated area. The cowboys never did figure it out. We only know b/c the Rams OL were joking about it in the media after the game.

As for Marinelli's defense............ it doesn't work without high level DTs. We all know he had 2 great DTs in Tampa......he had Henry Melton in Chicago who was a top 3 DT at the time. The defense looked a lot better when Irving was in there healthy. Woods and Collins are JAGS. Bennett is 34-35 and half the player he used to be. Its not going to work and hasn't worked against teams with good OLs.

I believe the story about the tells with the Rams. My point was that I don't think you need tells to beat Marinelli's system.

Obviously with better players you get better results, but even with high level DTs, will Marinelli's system work? I see a schematic issue against the run.

 

[Risen Star]

I wouldn't be against different nicknames.

 

[mahoneybill]

I thought I'd run a strategy by you all for beating Marinelli.

His whole shtick is getting his defense upfield through a gap and run defending "on the way to the QB". Ok. Use that against him.

Either a defender is in a gap you plan to hit with the RB, or not.
If yes, block.
If not, usher the dlineman upfield *where he's trying to go* and go block a LB.

Unlike a two gap which holds a line of defense across the LOS, Marinelli's one gap rush is vacating the LOS if they can manage to get upfield. So let them. Help them. Help the *right* ones.

Teams seem to abuse us in the run game by getting up on our LBs. Eberflus simply spanked us that way. How? Should be one defender trying to get upfield somewhere the play ain't going. That's one blocker who can go looking for a LB.

There was talk about the Rams having "tells" on our dline. Do you really need tells? Just react on where the dlineman lines up and tries to go. If the dlineman is going somewhere the ball ain't, help him get there, and go block a LB. Or just another lineman.

I'm sure it's not quite so simple, but I do think this is the basic strategy to use against Marinelli. Use the attempt get upfield past the oline to your advantage.

collingsworth touched on this stunting but didn’t finish.

excellent observation and like Garrett shows our stubbornness to not adapt from a scheme that others exploit

 

[atlantacowboy]

I believe the story about the tells with the Rams. My point was that I don't think you need tells to beat Marinelli's system.

Obviously with better players you get better results, but even with high level DTs, will Marinelli's system work? I see a schematic issue against the run.

. Despite the Ram game, we had a top 5 run defense last year. Whats changed? IMO, the LB core has changed. It is trash this year. I don't know if its scheme or what.

 

[Haimerej]

Teams seem to abuse us in the run game by getting up on our LBs. Eberflus simply spanked us that way. How?

Poor defensive tackles that lose their matchup. Pretty simple really.

 

[HungryLion]

Marinelli’s scheme is also based off “play with high effort, out hustle the other team” etc etc. blah blah blah.

 

[Pantone282C]

. Despite the Ram game, we had a top 5 run defense last year. Whats changed? IMO, the LB core has changed. It is trash this year. I don't know if its scheme or what.

Their scheme changed when they started the LBs in different positions IMO.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Their scheme changed when they started the LBs in different positions IMO.

I think Kris Richards is gone. Jerry is going to blame him for Jaylon and LVE's regression.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

The Dallas defense is Basic.

No one is fooled.

Its all Cover 1 or 3.

Man or zone.

We see the odd LB or slot blitz a few times.

That's about it.

Everyone is playing 1 gap.

The DEs don't contain, so the outside is always open.

The pass defense hasn't been the problem, it's been solid. It's the run D, which is heavily reliant on not missing tackles. Giving up 140 yards after contact isn't going to get it done.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I thought I'd run a strategy by you all for beating Marinelli.

His whole shtick is getting his defense upfield through a gap and run defending "on the way to the QB". Ok. Use that against him.

Either a defender is in a gap you plan to hit with the RB, or not.
If yes, block.
If not, usher the dlineman upfield *where he's trying to go* and go block a LB.

Unlike a two gap which holds a line of defense across the LOS, Marinelli's one gap rush is vacating the LOS if they can manage to get upfield. So let them. Help them. Help the *right* ones.

Teams seem to abuse us in the run game by getting up on our LBs. Eberflus simply spanked us that way. How? Should be one defender trying to get upfield somewhere the play ain't going. That's one blocker who can go looking for a LB.

There was talk about the Rams having "tells" on our dline. Do you really need tells? Just react on where the dlineman lines up and tries to go. If the dlineman is going somewhere the ball ain't, help him get there, and go block a LB. Or just another lineman.

I'm sure it's not quite so simple, but I do think this is the basic strategy to use against Marinelli. Use the attempt get upfield past the oline to your advantage.

a one gap is often thought of as an attacking defense, with a big focus on pass rush, a two gap system is a wait and see defense that requires stout DT, with some agility. they have to quickly see the play, and get to the gap the run play goes to. the LBs have huge responsibility to control the other gap.

either scheme works, if you have the right players and its executed right.

right now, the defense is playing individual game, they don't trust each other, nor the scheme (at least some don't), which then it falls apart.

 

[cowboygo]

I thought I'd run a strategy by you all for beating Marinelli.

His whole shtick is getting his defense upfield through a gap and run defending "on the way to the QB". Ok. Use that against him.

Either a defender is in a gap you plan to hit with the RB, or not.
If yes, block.
If not, usher the dlineman upfield *where he's trying to go* and go block a LB.

Unlike a two gap which holds a line of defense across the LOS, Marinelli's one gap rush is vacating the LOS if they can manage to get upfield. So let them. Help them. Help the *right* ones.

Teams seem to abuse us in the run game by getting up on our LBs. Eberflus simply spanked us that way. How? Should be one defender trying to get upfield somewhere the play ain't going. That's one blocker who can go looking for a LB.

There was talk about the Rams having "tells" on our dline. Do you really need tells? Just react on where the dlineman lines up and tries to go. If the dlineman is going somewhere the ball ain't, help him get there, and go block a LB. Or just another lineman.

I'm sure it's not quite so simple, but I do think this is the basic strategy to use against Marinelli. Use the attempt get upfield past the oline to your advantage.

The defense works when we have a two-posession lead!

 

[Pantone282C]

I think Kris Richards is gone. Jerry is going to blame him for Jaylon and LVE's regression.

Wrong guy to let go. Marinelli should go.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Wrong guy to let go. Marinelli should go.

Marinelli is just a title this year. He is a glorifed DL coach. Richards is running the defense and doing the positioning and play calling. He's got LVE and Jaylon all screwed up, and that is the future foundation of the defense.

I think Marinelli is just going to retire. He's 70 years old.

 

[cern]

we get gashed by teams that run up the middle. just a consequence of being weak at the tackle spots. year after year after year. but rod doesn't seem to think they're necessary.

 

[fansince68]

collingsworth touched on this stunting but didn’t finish.

excellent observation and like Garrett shows our stubbornness to not adapt from a scheme that others exploit

That's Garrett's MO offensively and defensively.