What to do at WR?

CouchCoach

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I like Cooper, he's a good guy and handles himself the way I wish all players did but I wonder if the team can afford him as he will hit that 18-20M area and with what they will have to pay the QB, tagged or not, and the OL and RB, can they really afford that much on one side of the ball?

Could this be a Cooper or Jones, can't keep them both situation?

Would it be better to draft a WR in the 1st, and there are some really good ones in this draft, and have Gallup and the rook WR fight it out for WR1?

We can't keep every player and from what I've seen, more are willing to part with Byron Jones that I am. Most seem to see him as the odd man out and he's by far the best player in this secondary. So, he's not a pickmeister, how many of them are? He does his job well enough to be one of the two best players on the D, a D that is in need of talent. And if they let him walk, there's your first rounder.

It seems to me that it's either Cooper or Jones and whichever walks, that's the position in the 1st round.
 

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I don't know if it is a Cooper/Jones thing or not. We all assume it would be hard to sign both, but teams find ways to do a lot of things we assume would be difficult. Maybe someone else has all the knowledge about both the Cowboys situation and all the workings of the salary cap and all the possibilities for the team to find additional room under the salary cap, but I don't.

But, IF it did come down to that, I would prefer to keep Cooper. I like Jones, and would hate to lose him, but while he's a good coverage guy, he is not a playmaker. Cooper is much more of a difference maker.

That said, the injuries that have limited Cooper this year concern me, but the doctors have to make the call if there will be any ongoing concern with that.
 
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I like Cooper, he's a good guy and handles himself the way I wish all players did but I wonder if the team can afford him as he will hit that 18-20M area and with what they will have to pay the QB, tagged or not, and the OL and RB, can they really afford that much on one side of the ball?

Could this be a Cooper or Jones, can't keep them both situation?

Would it be better to draft a WR in the 1st, and there are some really good ones in this draft, and have Gallup and the rook WR fight it out for WR1?

We can't keep every player and from what I've seen, more are willing to part with Byron Jones that I am. Most seem to see him as the odd man out and he's by far the best player in this secondary. So, he's not a pickmeister, how many of them are? He does his job well enough to be one of the two best players on the D, a D that is in need of talent. And if they let him walk, there's your first rounder.

It seems to me that it's either Cooper or Jones and whichever walks, that's the position in the 1st round.

Byron Jones is not even a consideration over whether I would keep Amari Cooper. I'm paying Prescott and Cooper as much as it takes, and a guy like Jones can hope he gets some of what's left.
 

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I am not sold on Cooper either. He has had some great games for Dallas but has has also disappeared in games - and he seems to be prone to injuries. Like Dak, I think Cooper needs to show he can light up a good defense. I wish Cooper were a little more fire to his game too. He never seems very enthusiastic.

As for CB, I like Byron Jones, but the reality is we can't sign everyone. Jones, top me, is the guy who is expendable. The problem is, Anthony Brown is a free agent too. I think they need to retain one of those guys. Then at least they would have 3 CBs to start. I like the idea of moving Lewis outside with Brown in the slot. Since Brown is injured and on IR, he may be easier for the Cowboys to re-sign. On the other hand, some guys do not come back 100% from knee injuries.

The Cowboys have almost 20 guys who will become free agents after this season including about a dozen starters and then some key backups. I am not sure why they let this happen but it could be a disaster for 2020 especially the way the season is going. I can see a lot of guys not wanted to return to the circus. Maybe the Cowboys are waiting to sign Dak before they try to sign the rest of these guys?
 

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This is a joke, right? What in the hell has Byron Jones done to show you we should keep him over Amari? Sure, Amari "disappears" on the road, but Byron Jones disappears every game. He was terrible against the Bears. He doesn't get interceptions, and the only reason QB's don't throw his way is because they are too busy picking on Jaylon and Awuzie. Amari has shown me more in his year and 1/2 tenure here than Byron Jones has shown me since we drafted him. Byron Jones can haul arse. He won't be missed.
 

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I like Cooper and he is a talented WR but disappears way too much. Also the league is going away from having marquee WR's and moving more to a model of having a group of solid WR's that are schemed into being open and exploiting defenses. Ever wonder why you see complete unknown guys on other teams become involved in the passing games? Heck George Kittle of the 49ers was a 5th round pick and is dominating. We took a TE in Schultz that cannot even get on the field.
 

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Cooper isnt as good as prime Bryant, but he is still a #1 WR. He will disappear at times, but he will also dictate coverage and help Gallup get favorable matchups. Bryant was top 3 in his prime, Cooper is probably top 10. And in todays NFL, if you are weak at WR you probably arent getting far

Jones is trending towards trash
 

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Byron Jones is not even a consideration over whether I would keep Amari Cooper. I'm paying Prescott and Cooper as much as it takes, and a guy like Jones can hope he gets some of what's left.
And that's all you'd have.

If Cooper is too expensive, draft. Dak isn't worth a huge contact. Her should have taken the money when he had the chance.
 

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And that's all you'd have.

If Cooper is too expensive, draft. Dak isn't worth a huge contact. Her should have taken the money when he had the chance.

So "all I'd have" is a top 5 offensive line, top 5 running back, top 5 quarterback, and top 5 receiver?

I guess I'd live with it...
 

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Cooper is probably our best player. If it comes down to him or Jones I’ll pack Jones bags for him. Jones is JAG.
 

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I would let him go. Expensive receivers seem to not help the team win. Gallup has developed well plus I would put half the money that Cooper wants into a quality tight end.
 

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This is a joke, right? What in the hell has Byron Jones done to show you we should keep him over Amari? Sure, Amari "disappears" on the road, but Byron Jones disappears every game. He was terrible against the Bears. He doesn't get interceptions, and the only reason QB's don't throw his way is because they are too busy picking on Jaylon and Awuzie. Amari has shown me more in his year and 1/2 tenure here than Byron Jones has shown me since we drafted him. Byron Jones can haul arse. He won't be missed.
I had 3 picks with him in madden today.
 

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I like Cooper, he's a good guy and handles himself the way I wish all players did but I wonder if the team can afford him as he will hit that 18-20M area and with what they will have to pay the QB, tagged or not, and the OL and RB, can they really afford that much on one side of the ball?

Could this be a Cooper or Jones, can't keep them both situation?

Would it be better to draft a WR in the 1st, and there are some really good ones in this draft, and have Gallup and the rook WR fight it out for WR1?

We can't keep every player and from what I've seen, more are willing to part with Byron Jones that I am. Most seem to see him as the odd man out and he's by far the best player in this secondary. So, he's not a pickmeister, how many of them are? He does his job well enough to be one of the two best players on the D, a D that is in need of talent. And if they let him walk, there's your first rounder.

It seems to me that it's either Cooper or Jones and whichever walks, that's the position in the 1st round.


It seems to me, that the main ones that keep asking and worrying if we can afford Cooper are the main ones that don’t seem to understand the salary cap.
It’s been more than proven that re-signed deals and money of others can be re-constructed, manipulated and moved around to address another certain prioritized player.

It’s not a question of afford, as we are easily among the leading teams with the most available cap space in the NFL, it’s
1) a question of market value, is he worth the demanded price that his camp could/has set his market price tag for ?
Is he demanding Julio Jones highest paid WR in NFL, 30+ mill a year, .. or is it in the Michael Thomas price range area? What is the guaranteed bonus that’s going to be staged ?

2) Also the Cowboys want to find out what is going to be set stage for Dak’s future monster contract as to fully guaranteed bonus, roster, annual, pro rated ,spread out this/that years
those well calculated numbers has to be known and established before they liked to attend to Cooper.

- If the Cowboys could have re-signed Dak this season , i believe they would have likely re-signed Cooper to his own deal.
But the Dak deal (and lack there of) appears to have slowed and halted both deals and now it’s a matter of seeing if a deal can be hammered out soon as season over
. or is it going toward franchise tag, - to which if there becomes a franchise tag, involved with Dak,
that along will surely tie up the 2020 roster cap alone, and halt a number of areas and movement in FA, if there’s no progress.
Cowboys may be forced to use a transitional tag towards Cooper, which could force another NFL team to match Cowboys offer or submit substantial draft pick compensation to
acquire him. (so i'm hearing)

You always hear that you cannot re-sign everyone – that appears right, ....as you prioritized the top, cornerstone players and seriously go after re-signing them,
While you let go the B-tier and serviceable types FA agents on your roster. you don’t sign or re-sign average players to big long term contract (ala Barry Church, Anthony Hitchens, Damien Wilson, etc.)

You don’t overcommit to B-Tier players either., ala Demarco Murray, Byron Jones , you give them B-Tier take it or leave it offers (at best) , .. same gonna be likely said with Robert Quinn and Michael Bennett.
And the Maliek Collins,..Tyrone Crawford (cap casualty) Atuwann Woods, ..Anthony Browns,.. jeff heath, ..sean lee,.. Jason witten, you let them move on, per FA or cap cut.
 
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