What to do at WR?

[quickccc]

Half agree.

I'm signing Amari, but I'm going WR early too.

not me, if I have Coop and Gallup here, I have no need to go WR early especially with so many defensive needs ( DL, CB, Safety) being highest priorieties along with a new TE.

only way I could ever sway differently if some very highly regarded WR that surprisingly slips down to middle 2nd or 3rd rd ( assuming our spot) than he is too valuable
per our draft board to pass up. But for sake of just getting another WR ?

And as far as Randall Cobb, who is due to be a FA, and will demand more on the market than the past offseason when we got him at a sheer bargain.
Not very likely to happen this time around. We'll have to give him a substantial offer this time around.

I would be for drafting a talented slot/returner and 3rd/4th WR in the late rounds - (as I cant wait to get the useless Tavon Austin off this roster)
i'd like to return Cobb, but we'll still need depth and top role players but i'm willing to bet any additional WRs will come here per late round or FA market ( ala Cobb, Devin Smith)

 

[Future]

not me, if I have Coop and Gallup here, I have no need to go WR early especially with so many defensive needs ( DL, CB, Safety) being highest priorieties along with a new TE.

only way I could ever sway differently if some very highly regarded WR that surprisingly slips down to middle 2nd or 3rd rd ( assuming our spot) than he is too valuable
per our draft board to pass up. But for sake of just getting another WR ?

And as far as Randall Cobb, who is due to be a FA, and will demand more on the market than the past offseason when we got him at a sheer bargain.
Not very likely to happen this time around. We'll have to give him a substantial offer this time around.

I would be for drafting a talented slot/returner and 3rd/4th WR in the late rounds - (as I cant wait to get the useless Tavon Austin off this roster)
i'd like to return Cobb, but we'll still need depth and top role players but i'm willing to bet any additional WRs will come here per late round or FA market ( ala Cobb, Devin Smith)

Defense doesn't matter, it isn't worth dedicating significant resources to other than DL. Build an offense that scores touchdowns and play with a lead, and get a coach who can scheme from time to time.

Cobb sucks, I don't care what they do with him. Re-sign him if you want, but he should have no bearing on drafting a WR. You can't go into a season as limited at WR as they were this year in today's NFL.

 

[Mr_437]

No matter what we need to grab one from this loaded class.

Firm believer in draft whatever position is at surplus. Last year it was Safety hmmm...

Cobb isn't coming back to the Cowboys crap show, and Tavon won't be back for multiple reasons. Yes, DAL should be drafting a WR, but they might outsmart the league again, ya never know.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I like Cooper, he's a good guy and handles himself the way I wish all players did but I wonder if the team can afford him as he will hit that 18-20M area and with what they will have to pay the QB, tagged or not, and the OL and RB, can they really afford that much on one side of the ball?

Could this be a Cooper or Jones, can't keep them both situation?

Would it be better to draft a WR in the 1st, and there are some really good ones in this draft, and have Gallup and the rook WR fight it out for WR1?

We can't keep every player and from what I've seen, more are willing to part with Byron Jones that I am. Most seem to see him as the odd man out and he's by far the best player in this secondary. So, he's not a pickmeister, how many of them are? He does his job well enough to be one of the two best players on the D, a D that is in need of talent. And if they let him walk, there's your first rounder.

It seems to me that it's either Cooper or Jones and whichever walks, that's the position in the 1st round.

I kinda agree and there will a guy like Shenault there for us in the first round I think but honestly Coach, I think I might leverage Dak on this deal. I think I would go out and take a QB in the first round, tag Dak, tell his agent we are ready to let the kid sit for a year, trade Dak or you can sign this contract we have in front of you. If not, we'll move on with the young guy and just go sign Coop and probably have enough to sing Jones as well. If Dak and his agent see the light of day, then you can always trade the kid down the road and get some value back for him. Heck, even if it's for a 2nd rounder, it's probably worth it. You get a much more reasonable contract situation with Dak and you are able to keep Jones and Coop with the money you probably save. That, to me, would be worth the 1st round QB pick if you could work that out.

JMO

 

[817Gill]

Byron Jones is not even a consideration over whether I would keep Amari Cooper. I'm paying Prescott and Cooper as much as it takes, and a guy like Jones can hope he gets some of what's left.

Exactly

 

[Hook'em#11]

Nothing. WR is Far from a problem.

Fix the defense first. OL and get another RB. Good to go.

 

[CF74]

Bring back 2014 Dez

 

[cowboyec]

keep COOOOOOOOP and Gallup together.
hope Urban can coach up Noah Brown.
develop Cedrick Wilson.
draft Smu's James Proche or KJ Hill,Ohio St.

ipso-fatso....solved.

 

[quickccc]

Defense doesn't matter, it isn't worth dedicating significant resources to other than DL. Build an offense that scores touchdowns and play with a lead, and get a coach who can scheme from time to time.

Cobb sucks, I don't care what they do with him. Re-sign him if you want, but he should have no bearing on drafting a WR. You can't go into a season as limited at WR as they were this year in today's NFL.

I totally disagree
Brown likely to be gone in FA.
Great chance byron in fa as well.
Ditto with heath, that's already a 3rd of your starting secondary, and awuzie has shown his a liability that makes no plays and needs to be replaced.
and where's that playmaking safety that's been absence since forever?

and the run defense and pass rush went
south and there's no telling if we will even get
Quinn back and we cannot rely that hill is the future answer at 3 tech.
much has been already well invested on offense with QB, rb, wr and ol.
Too little and not near enough on the defense side of the ball.
And often it shows, and often it's the reason why we even get ousted outta playoffs.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

I totally disagree
Brown likely to be gone in FA.
Great chance byron in fa as well.
Ditto with heath, that's already a 3rd of your starting secondary, and awuzie has shown his a liability that makes no plays and needs to be replaced.
and where's that playmaking safety that's been absence since forever?

and the run defense and pass rush went
south and there's no telling if we will even get
Quinn back and we cannot rely that hill is the future answer at 3 tech.
much has been already well invested on offense with QB, rb, wr and ol.
Too little and not near enough on the defense side of the ball.
And often it shows, and often it's the reason why we even get ousted outta playoffs.

Really it is almost impossible to tell who is a liability or who is player in the current scheme given that this defense wasn't generating a ton of turnovers before these players got here.

 

[Praxit]

....gee, I dont know. Cooper disappears when he faces good DB's. And he wants Elite $$$$. Byron can be let go for a bag of chips. Draft a CB/S off season. Sign, Coop but give him a fair deal, dont break the bank. If he wants more let him walk.

Right now, its looking like they should have kept Bease.

 

[cern]

I like Cooper, he's a good guy and handles himself the way I wish all players did but I wonder if the team can afford him as he will hit that 18-20M area and with what they will have to pay the QB, tagged or not, and the OL and RB, can they really afford that much on one side of the ball?

Could this be a Cooper or Jones, can't keep them both situation?

Would it be better to draft a WR in the 1st, and there are some really good ones in this draft, and have Gallup and the rook WR fight it out for WR1?

We can't keep every player and from what I've seen, more are willing to part with Byron Jones that I am. Most seem to see him as the odd man out and he's by far the best player in this secondary. So, he's not a pickmeister, how many of them are? He does his job well enough to be one of the two best players on the D, a D that is in need of talent. And if they let him walk, there's your first rounder.

It seems to me that it's either Cooper or Jones and whichever walks, that's the position in the 1st round.

Thought provoking. Having gallup would make it easier to let cooper go should his contract demands be excessive.

 

[JBond]

I like Cooper, he's a good guy and handles himself the way I wish all players did but I wonder if the team can afford him as he will hit that 18-20M area and with what they will have to pay the QB, tagged or not, and the OL and RB, can they really afford that much on one side of the ball?

Could this be a Cooper or Jones, can't keep them both situation?

Would it be better to draft a WR in the 1st, and there are some really good ones in this draft, and have Gallup and the rook WR fight it out for WR1?

We can't keep every player and from what I've seen, more are willing to part with Byron Jones that I am. Most seem to see him as the odd man out and he's by far the best player in this secondary. So, he's not a pickmeister, how many of them are? He does his job well enough to be one of the two best players on the D, a D that is in need of talent. And if they let him walk, there's your first rounder.

It seems to me that it's either Cooper or Jones and whichever walks, that's the position in the 1st round.

I am not a salary guru like Adam was, but it seems we have plenty of space for both if we draft well.

Fun site to play with.

https://overthecap.com/calculator/dallas-cowboys/

 

[stilltheguru]

Byron Jones is not even a consideration over whether I would keep Amari Cooper. I'm paying Prescott and Cooper as much as it takes, and a guy like Jones can hope he gets some of what's left.

Byron doesnt have to hope for anything. Hes getting a bag from sonebody regardless next year whether franchise tag or new deal elsewhere.

 

[JBond]

It seems to me, that the main ones that keep asking and worrying if we can afford Cooper are the main ones that don’t seem to understand the salary cap.
It’s been more than proven that re-signed deals and money of others can be re-constructed, manipulated and moved around to address another certain prioritized player.

It’s not a question of afford, as we are easily among the leading teams with the most available cap space in the NFL, it’s
1) a question of market value, is he worth the demanded price that his camp could/has set his market price tag for ?
Is he demanding Julio Jones highest paid WR in NFL, 30+ mill a year, .. or is it in the Michael Thomas price range area? What is the guaranteed bonus that’s going to be staged ?

2) Also the Cowboys want to find out what is going to be set stage for Dak’s future monster contract as to fully guaranteed bonus, roster, annual, pro rated ,spread out this/that years
those well calculated numbers has to be known and established before they liked to attend to Cooper.

- If the Cowboys could have re-signed Dak this season , i believe they would have likely re-signed Cooper to his own deal.
But the Dak deal (and lack there of) appears to have slowed and halted both deals and now it’s a matter of seeing if a deal can be hammered out soon as season over
. or is it going toward franchise tag, - to which if there becomes a franchise tag, involved with Dak,
that along will surely tie up the 2020 roster cap alone, and halt a number of areas and movement in FA, if there’s no progress.
Cowboys may be forced to use a transitional tag towards Cooper, which could force another NFL team to match Cowboys offer or submit substantial draft pick compensation to
acquire him. (so i'm hearing)

You always hear that you cannot re-sign everyone – that appears right, ....as you prioritized the top, cornerstone players and seriously go after re-signing them,
While you let go the B-tier and serviceable types FA agents on your roster. you don’t sign or re-sign average players to big long term contract (ala Barry Church, Anthony Hitchens, Damien Wilson, etc.)

You don’t overcommit to B-Tier players either., ala Demarco Murray, Byron Jones , you give them B-Tier take it or leave it offers (at best) , .. same gonna be likely said with Robert Quinn and Michael Bennett.
And the Maliek Collins,..Tyrone Crawford (cap casualty) Atuwann Woods, ..Anthony Browns,.. jeff heath, ..sean lee,.. Jason witten, you let them move on, per FA or cap cut.

If we use both tags on Dak and Coop/Jones that leaves about 30 million next season to fill the roster. Assuming an additional 10 million for whoever doesn't get a tag, in the form of a contract, still leaves plenty for other acquisitions. For the first time in a long while we are looking good. Lose Witten and a couple other guys and we are in even better shape.

 

[Diehardblues]

We have #1 offense and are below .500.
Maybe we need to use our top picks next year on defense?

 

[Corso]

In before someone suggests Antonio Brown.

Does he drop easy passes?

 

[Stash]

Byron doesnt have to hope for anything. Hes getting a bag from sonebody regardless next year whether franchise tag or new deal elsewhere.

Then let him get that bag from somebody else. And he's certainly not getting a franchise tag here.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I like Cooper, he's a good guy and handles himself the way I wish all players did but I wonder if the team can afford him as he will hit that 18-20M area and with what they will have to pay the QB, tagged or not, and the OL and RB, can they really afford that much on one side of the ball?

Could this be a Cooper or Jones, can't keep them both situation?

Would it be better to draft a WR in the 1st, and there are some really good ones in this draft, and have Gallup and the rook WR fight it out for WR1?

We can't keep every player and from what I've seen, more are willing to part with Byron Jones that I am. Most seem to see him as the odd man out and he's by far the best player in this secondary. So, he's not a pickmeister, how many of them are? He does his job well enough to be one of the two best players on the D, a D that is in need of talent. And if they let him walk, there's your first rounder.

It seems to me that it's either Cooper or Jones and whichever walks, that's the position in the 1st round.

This is nonsense. The passing game and Cooper aren't the issue. Pay him. Zeke was the big mistake.

 

[stilltheguru]

Then let him get that bag from somebody else. And he's certainly not getting a franchise tag here.

You sure about that franchise tag?