My Thoughts on Dak's contract

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The sticking point seems to be Dallas wants a long term contract over 6 yrs. Dak's team is pushing for a 4 yr deal. The agents want that guaranteed money. Dallas wants the long term deal to be able to restructure and keep him happy with more guaranteed money.

Offer 1
If i was the team i would go to Dak's team with two offers. One for 10 yrs says 350mil 100 mil guranteed. And say after yr 4 you go back and you restructure to get more guranteed money to Dak and lower the cap adding money as a signing bonus and prorating that for the final 5 yrs of the deal. In a situation like this he will never make over say 33-35mil a yr, and never really cripples the cap especially the way the cap is going up.

Offer 2
4yrs 120mil fully guaranteed. Dak will make a ton of money in 4 yrs and be at a lower yrly avg then Wentz and Goff and Wilson but will make his money and with the ability to score again in 4 yrs. In that time Dallas could find his eventual replacement if hes not still producing. In 4 yrs he would make 4mil less then what Romo made his entire career.
 

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The sticking point seems to be Dallas wants a long term contract over 6 yrs. Dak's team is pushing for a 4 yr deal. The agents want that guaranteed money. Dallas wants the long term deal to be able to restructure and keep him happy with more guaranteed money.

Offer 1
If i was the team i would go to Dak's team with two offers. One for 10 yrs says 350mil 100 mil guranteed. And say after yr 4 you go back and you restructure to get more guranteed money to Dak and lower the cap adding money as a signing bonus and prorating that for the final 5 yrs of the deal. In a situation like this he will never make over say 33-35mil a yr, and never really cripples the cap especially the way the cap is going up.

Offer 2
4yrs 120mil fully guaranteed. Dak will make a ton of money in 4 yrs and be at a lower yrly avg then Wentz and Goff and Wilson but will make his money and with the ability to score again in 4 yrs. In that time Dallas could find his eventual replacement if hes not still producing. In 4 yrs he would make 4mil less then what Romo made his entire career.

Here are some notable FA quarterbacks coming in 2020 -
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
Ryan Tannehill
Case Keenum
Teddy Bridgewater

Dak Prescott is in that class of quarterbacks. It's a buyers market for quarterbacks of Dak's caliber. Let him become a FA and pick the cheapest of the bunch and draft a quarterback high and develop him. The team can go 7-9 and 9-7 with any one of those quarterbacks without the requirement of that kind of contract.
 

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Franchise tag him, let a new HC have input as to keep him or move on if he doesn't improve even more upon this year.

NO freaking way sign him for 10 years. Unless be balls out these last 3 games, and gets us into the playoffs and to at least the NFCCG.
Of course the defense needs to do their part also. But he needs to play EXCELLENT this last 3 games to even get a 4 year deal.
 

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The sticking point seems to be Dallas wants a long term contract over 6 yrs. Dak's team is pushing for a 4 yr deal. The agents want that guaranteed money. Dallas wants the long term deal to be able to restructure and keep him happy with more guaranteed money.

Offer 1
If i was the team i would go to Dak's team with two offers. One for 10 yrs says 350mil 100 mil guranteed. And say after yr 4 you go back and you restructure to get more guranteed money to Dak and lower the cap adding money as a signing bonus and prorating that for the final 5 yrs of the deal. In a situation like this he will never make over say 33-35mil a yr, and never really cripples the cap especially the way the cap is going up.

Offer 2
4yrs 120mil fully guaranteed. Dak will make a ton of money in 4 yrs and be at a lower yrly avg then Wentz and Goff and Wilson but will make his money and with the ability to score again in 4 yrs. In that time Dallas could find his eventual replacement if hes not still producing. In 4 yrs he would make 4il less then what Romo made his entire career.

May I ask where you got this info as after the last 2 month no way Dak qualifies for the above monies?
Source, please????
 

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Here are some notable FA quarterbacks coming in 2020 -
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
Ryan Tannehill
Case Keenum
Teddy Bridgewater

Dak Prescott is in that class of quarterbacks. It's a buyers market for quarterbacks of Dak's caliber. Let him become a FA and pick the cheapest of the bunch and draft a quarterback high and develop him. The team can go 7-9 and 9-7 with any one of those quarterbacks without the requirement of that kind of contract.

I think Bridgewater signed a deal with the Saints to stay a few more years.
No to Keenum.

Actually the other 3 may be interesting, a new HC may be able to work with them, but they also can work with Dak.
 

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Winston is an interesting option. The rest are not to me. Mariota sucks. He was benched for a reason.

I get the concern about Dak, the last 2 games he has looked really, really bad. He has regressed to where he was last year doing some of the things we criticized him for last season. Holding the ball too long, lack of pocket presence, inaccuracy, taking bad sacks, zeroing in on his receivers. Against Chicago, I thought he actually did panic and rush a few of his throws. But for 10 games, Dak looked really good. I would love to talk to Kitna to see if he has a handle on these things and if this regression by Dak is just part of the development process. Will he get better again next year and in subsequent years until these mistakes are very infrequent or eliminated?

Also, how much is Dak's poor play on the OC? Has the league caught up to Moore already? The Cowboys have 3 good receivers and against Chicago, it looked like none of them were open very much. Cooper has disappeared for a while. In fact, the offense looks like it did before Cooper was acquired.

I would not pay Dak more than $35 million a year. I would try hard to sign him though. I wonder how much this contract stuff has effected Dak and his decisions on the field. Is he trying to do too much in to improve his contract situation? What I do know is finding QBs is not as easy as it sounds. If Dallas was picking in the top 5, I might consider pushing Dak's contract down the road and seeing if I could pick up one of the top prospects, but even that is not guaranteed.
 

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Assuming RT isn’t a fluke this season, he would be the best option on that list and it’s not even close.

Here are some notable FA quarterbacks coming in 2020 -
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
Ryan Tannehill
Case Keenum
Teddy Bridgewater

Dak Prescott is in that class of quarterbacks. It's a buyers market for quarterbacks of Dak's caliber. Let him become a FA and pick the cheapest of the bunch and draft a quarterback high and develop him. The team can go 7-9 and 9-7 with any one of those quarterbacks without the requirement of that kind of contract.
 

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Assuming RT isn’t a fluke this season, he would be the best option on that list and it’s not even close.
Id take Dak over anybody on that list and its not even close. Let a competent coach come in and improve on Dak's improvements. Kitna has done the work with Dak and righted most of mechanical issues. Getting that mental clock going as we see Dak is getting the ball out. He's gone from 56 sacks to 18. Which guys who have played the majority of the yr is tops in the nfl. I say this because Brees and Mahomes have both missed multiple games.

Dak has gotten better every yr. Every other guy on that list has already reached their peak and are all on the decline.
 

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Here are some notable FA quarterbacks coming in 2020 -
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
Ryan Tannehill
Case Keenum
Teddy Bridgewater

Dak Prescott is in that class of quarterbacks. It's a buyers market for quarterbacks of Dak's caliber. Let him become a FA and pick the cheapest of the bunch and draft a quarterback high and develop him. The team can go 7-9 and 9-7 with any one of those quarterbacks without the requirement of that kind of contract.
Not one of those QBs is better than Dak. Not one.
 

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Id take Dak over anybody on that list and its not even close. Let a competent coach come in and improve on Dak's improvements. Kitna has done the work with Dak and righted most of mechanical issues. Getting that mental clock going as we see Dak is getting the ball out. He's gone from 56 sacks to 18. Which guys who have played the majority of the yr is tops in the nfl. I say this because Brees and Mahomes have both missed multiple games.

Dak has gotten better every yr. Every other guy on that list has already reached their peak and are all on the decline.

Wait till the Rams get ahold of him this weekend.
One note here as it wouldn't surprise me if Dak is inept in this one that he hits the bench at some point as bringing in Rush we really have nothing to lose.
We've seen inept Dak the last 2 months against real teams so be ready.
Now concerning all these millions, you're posting hold a small basket as Dak just might be dead man walking by seasons end!
 

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Here are some notable FA quarterbacks coming in 2020 -
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
Ryan Tannehill
Case Keenum
Teddy Bridgewater

Dak Prescott is in that class of quarterbacks. It's a buyers market for quarterbacks of Dak's caliber. Let him become a FA and pick the cheapest of the bunch and draft a quarterback high and develop him. The team can go 7-9 and 9-7 with any one of those quarterbacks without the requirement of that kind of contract.
Dak is better then each of those quarterbacks and it is not close.
 

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Winston is an interesting option. The rest are not to me. Mariota sucks. He was benched for a reason.

I get the concern about Dak, the last 2 games he has looked really, really bad. He has regressed to where he was last year doing some of the things we criticized him for last season. Holding the ball too long, lack of pocket presence, inaccuracy, taking bad sacks, zeroing in on his receivers. Against Chicago, I thought he actually did panic and rush a few of his throws. But for 10 games, Dak looked really good. I would love to talk to Kitna to see if he has a handle on these things and if this regression by Dak is just part of the development process. Will he get better again next year and in subsequent years until these mistakes are very infrequent or eliminated?

Also, how much is Dak's poor play on the OC? Has the league caught up to Moore already? The Cowboys have 3 good receivers and against Chicago, it looked like none of them were open very much. Cooper has disappeared for a while. In fact, the offense looks like it did before Cooper was acquired.

I would not pay Dak more than $35 million a year. I would try hard to sign him though. I wonder how much this contract stuff has effected Dak and his decisions on the field. Is he trying to do too much in to improve his contract situation? What I do know is finding QBs is not as easy as it sounds. If Dallas was picking in the top 5, I might consider pushing Dak's contract down the road and seeing if I could pick up one of the top prospects, but even that is not guaranteed.
Winston is a turnover machine. It seems he has a pick 6 in every game he has played in this season.
 

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Id take Dak over anybody on that list and its not even close. Let a competent coach come in and improve on Dak's improvements. Kitna has done the work with Dak and righted most of mechanical issues. Getting that mental clock going as we see Dak is getting the ball out. He's gone from 56 sacks to 18. Which guys who have played the majority of the yr is tops in the nfl. I say this because Brees and Mahomes have both missed multiple games.

Dak has gotten better every yr. Every other guy on that list has already reached their peak and are all on the decline.

The only quarterback on that list (including Dak) that has performed well enough this season to earn himself a large contract would by Ryan Tannehill.

Dak has problems with his fundamentals and after 4 seasons I doubt it's going to get better.
 

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Here are some notable FA quarterbacks coming in 2020 -
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
Ryan Tannehill
Case Keenum
Teddy Bridgewater

Dak Prescott is in that class of quarterbacks. It's a buyers market for quarterbacks of Dak's caliber. Let him become a FA and pick the cheapest of the bunch and draft a quarterback high and develop him. The team can go 7-9 and 9-7 with any one of those quarterbacks without the requirement of that kind of contract.

either Eagles fan or clinically insane
 

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Winston is a turnover machine. It seems he has a pick 6 in every game he has played in this season.

This is true. He has thrown 23 interceptions already this year to Dak's 11. Which is why I say not to take this QB situation too lightly. Getting rid of Dak does not solve any problems but creates a big one. There are no franchise QBs just floating around out there or growing on trees.
 

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This is true. He has thrown 23 interceptions already this year to Dak's 11. Which is why I say not to take this QB situation too lightly. Getting rid of Dak does not solve any problems but creates a big one. There are no franchise QBs just floating around out there or growing on trees.
I think fans are reading to much into Dak's price tag. We worried about other people's money.
 

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Here are some notable FA quarterbacks coming in 2020 -
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
Ryan Tannehill
Case Keenum
Teddy Bridgewater

Dak Prescott is in that class of quarterbacks. It's a buyers market for quarterbacks of Dak's caliber. Let him become a FA and pick the cheapest of the bunch and draft a quarterback high and develop him. The team can go 7-9 and 9-7 with any one of those quarterbacks without the requirement of that kind of contract.

Lol I would take Dak over all those guys. I think any reasonable NFL fan would.
 

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Meh. Dak has pissed me off these last 3 games, but he's better than all of those QB's. All of those QB's have been in the league longer than Dak has, and Dak still continues to improve and grow. I have yet to see improvement from the other QB's listed. Winston is still a turnover machine. Mariota is... Mariota. Tannehill is a solid starter, but I feel like he's riding off of the momentum in Tennessee. It may slow down if he stays with Tennessee next season. Keenum? Nah. Bridgewater likely stays in NO. With Brees getting older, he's a good backup/solid starter til they find another franchise QB if Brees retires. He would also be a good mentor to a rookie QB if they were to get one in the up and coming years.
 

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I think fans are reading to much into Dak's price tag. We worried about other people's money.
We should be worried. Dak has shown he is not the type of QB who can without top shelf talent around him, which is fine, not many QB's are in that tier. But those that can are the one's who deserve top money. When you give all this money to Dak, you can't give it to others, you can't put the pieces around him he needs to excel.

Of course it could all just be on coaching. Hopefully we find out soon. I'm all for tagging him this off-season and seeing what next year brings.
 

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I thought there was a term limit.
Or I'm I getting that confused with the NHL of 8 years with current team and 7 as a FA?
 
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