Jesse Holley: Wade Phillip was sabotaged

[Dre11]

that is probably one of the dumbest posts I have read.

so Garrett handed the ball back to opposition by turning the ball over. so he designed plays that cause fumbles and the QB to throw interceptions...but for kicks, I checked the stats

in that 9 game stretch, we had 7 Ints and 2 fumbles. 5 of the Ints coming in back to back games.....

so garrett design running plays that would have the RB fumble...what an interesting (dumb) concept.

Lol. now tell him to look at the games they scored 30 and still lost.

 

[Dre11]

The most hilarious thing is. The only real defense against the idea Garrett sabotaging Wade, is the argument that Garrett just isn’t that good of a coach to begin with.

I also find it funny that people can’t give at least a little credence to it. When everybody knew that Garrett was being “groomed” to be the head coach. Jerry hirer him prior to hiring Wade for crying out load.

Everyone knew that Garrett was the golden boy and the heir apparent, despite never really doing anything to earn being heir apparent.

at very least it was total organizational dysfunction. And of course Jerry is as much to blame as anyone.

because the defense sucked worse. Did Jason tell them to suck too? use your brain. then you get this off the wall BS from Terrell Owens

Sources: T.O.'s expressed resentment toward Romo http://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story/_/id/3763209
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[HungryLion]

because the defense sucked worse. Did Jason tell them to suck too? use your brain. then you get this off the wall BS from Terrell Owens

Sources: T.O.'s expressed resentment toward Romo http://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story/_/id/3763209
via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app

I never stated Wade was a good head coach.

but again. Your boy Garrett got the job despite doing nothing to actually earn the job. Everyone knew it then and the results to this date have matched that fact.

I do find it funny that NOW you want to blame a coach (wade) for poor results.

but with Garrett it’s always the players fault.

hey Dre. Maybe the players should have executed better under Wade. What about that?


I openly said that Wade wasn’t a good head coach. You can’t admit the same about JG.

 

[stilltheguru]

Lol...you hope he's fired and will jump off a bridge if he isn't. me on the other hand will be find whichever way they go. there's the idiot looking at you through your mirror

Did you at any point think garrett was a great coach. Yes or no. Ypu do alot of talkin

 

[Praxit]

..its always cool seeing that play. Remember it like yesterday. I thought Jessie would eventually become one of primary group of receivers. oH well.

 

[Dre11]

I never stated Wade was a good head coach.

but again. Your boy Garrett got the job despite doing nothing to actually earn the job. Everyone knew it then and the results to this date have matched that fact.

I do find it funny that NOW you want to blame a coach (wade) for poor results.

but with Garrett it’s always the players fault.

hey Dre. Maybe the players should have executed better under Wade. What about that?


I openly said that Wade wasn’t a good head coach. You can’t admit the same about JG.

I never stated Wade was a good head coach.

but again. Your boy Garrett got the job despite doing nothing to actually earn the job. Everyone knew it then and the results to this date have matched that fact.

I do find it funny that NOW you want to blame a coach (wade) for poor results.

but with Garrett it’s always the players fault.

hey Dre. Maybe the players should have executed better under Wade. What about that?


I openly said that Wade wasn’t a good head coach. You can’t admit the same about JG.

see this is where you look foolish. Wade got fired because his defense didnt perform, I never said he was at fault. it's obvious it wasn't because he left coaches a Superbowl defense twice. just as if Garrett gets fired, it will be because the team didn't perform doesn't mean it was his fault. in a results business it goes with the territory. Belicheck got fired in Cleveland too.

 

[cowboyblue22]

wade sucked as a head coach and progressively got worse as a head coach..Jerry jones just ran all over him.

he was not any worse than the clown that they have now

 

[Dre11]

Did you at any point think garrett was a great coach. Yes or no. Ypu do alot of talkin

I never said he was great, I said he was above average. I also said you don't need a great coach to win. you do a lot of assuming.

 

[khiladi]

How are turnovers on a coach?

By that logic, how is anything on a coach? Well, let’s see. It could be:

1. Simplicity and predictability of offensive play calling for the opposing defense
2. Having free blitzes running running at your QB, forcing him to make plays
3. Not being able to field a running game to control TOP

Maybe you should Garrett, who was blaming Rob Ryan for lack of TOs and the reason his offense wasn’t having success. Ironic when his own side of ball kept handing the call back to opposition.

"The Bears had 44 takeaways. We had 16. That's 28 more opportunities with the ball," Garrett told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram from the Senior Bowl. "Give me some of those 28 opportunities. That's something that we really sat back and thought a lot about, had a lot of discussions about -- what's the best way to try to achieve that, and then, 'OK, you want to do that, now who are the guys who can help implement that?' "

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...rett-lack-of-turnovers-led-to-rob-ryan-firing

 

[khiladi]

that is probably one of the dumbest posts I have read.

so Garrett handed the ball back to opposition by turning the ball over. so he designed plays that cause fumbles and the QB to throw interceptions...but for kicks, I checked the stats

in that 9 game stretch, we had 7 Ints and 2 fumbles. 5 of the Ints coming in back to back games.....

so garrett design running plays that would have the RB fumble...what an interesting (dumb) concept.

He designed plays that had free runners to his QB, he designed plays that defenses said were completely predictable, he designed plays that put pressure on his QB..

So yes..

How was Rob Ryan to blame by Garrett’s logic for his own offensive ineptitude?

"The Bears had 44 takeaways. We had 16. That's 28 more opportunities with the ball," Garrett told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram from the Senior Bowl. "Give me some of those 28 opportunities. That's something that we really sat back and thought a lot about, had a lot of discussions about -- what's the best way to try to achieve that, and then, 'OK, you want to do that, now who are the guys who can help implement that?' "

 

[khiladi]

OMG, the conspiracy theories....perhaps the tower of Pizza leaning was Garrett's fault to, give he seems to be so clever and so good at it that he fooled a multi billionaire......as if Jones is a total idiot!!!! come on people...get a hold of yourself.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2009/2/5/750217/job-title-nixes-dan-reeves

Do you read properly:

But the partnership dissolved when Reeves became uncomfortable with changes Jones insisted upon after Reeves rejected a job title that would have included him as a member of Wade Phillips' coaching staff. Reeves preferred an executive title with broader authority.

Dan Reeves was going to be part of the COACHING STAFF. Reeves himself NEVER stipulated what the contractual changes were, but if you actually followed the real article you could see when crap hit the fan;

Reeves, 65, also declined to specifically identify the contractual issue that caused the deal to fall apart. He was working since Monday in the Cowboys' facility, primarily meeting with the offensive coaching staff, learning the system and its terminology, and breaking down videotape of personnel. But he exited the building at midday and arrived back in Atlanta late Wednesday night. Jones could not be reached for comment.

Reeves was working with the OFFENSE, just like said. And right after that Jerry did a 180..

And Reeves said it was specifically about COACHING in this context :

"I thought the thing was done, and we finally agreed on what the title was going to be," Reeves said. "I didn't want to have a coaching title and not have authority coachingwise. I wanted to work with him [Jones] and Wade and help in any way that I possibly could. We finally agreed the coaching thing wouldn't be in there, but then the contract changed and there were some things in there I couldn't see being in there, and they were important to him. He made a lot of concessions, but this was something that was important to him, and I just didn't feel like I could live with it. So it didn't make sense for us to go forward."

Basically Jerry didn’t let Reeves touch Garrett’s offense, which shows how Wade was rendered completely powerless to deal with Garrett’s incompetence.

 

[HungryLion]

see this is where you look foolish. Wade got fired because his defense didnt perform, I never said he was at fault. it's obvious it wasn't because he left coaches a Superbowl defense twice. just as if Garrett gets fired, it will be because the team didn't perform doesn't mean it was his fault. in a results business it goes with the territory. Belicheck got fired in Cleveland too.

lol yeah you keep thinking that others are the ones that look foolish.

Garrett sycophant

 

[HowardC]

that's nice. but this is about jason garrett.

Gotta love a good Ad Hominem attack.

 

[Dre11]

lol yeah you keep thinking that others are the ones that look foolish.

Garrett sycophant

lol.. the foolishness is written all over your face...lol

 

[HowardC]

Holley isn't the only player to say this.

 

[EGTuna]

By that logic, how is anything on a coach? Well, let’s see. It could be:

1. Simplicity and predictability of offensive play calling for the opposing defense
2. Having free blitzes running running at your QB, forcing him to make plays
3. Not being able to field a running game to control TOP

Maybe you should Garrett, who was blaming Rob Ryan for lack of TOs and the reason his offense wasn’t having success. Ironic when his own side of ball kept handing the call back to opposition.





http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...rett-lack-of-turnovers-led-to-rob-ryan-firing

Fair enough. Good points. Garrett is relentlessly conservative, so the defense won't feel they can be risky. Same with the offense on the road.

I just don't buy the sabotage narrative. He ain't that smart or duplicitous.

 

[zerofill]

I should throw out that I personally don’t think Garrett has been anything more than a mediocre coach from the jump. So it’s entirely possible he failed and has failed simply due to his own lack of ability.

Possible?... fact in my opinion lol.

We watched in 2014 Romo changing the plays constantly. We watched what they called in the Romo football life, that he changed. I am not a huge "player Dak" fan, but any QB going into Dallas without the experience of a Romo or Brady is setup to fail. Unless you are changing the plays, you aren't going to be winning in Dallas right now.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I seem to remember this team quitting on Wade. So while it may be true....the players getting killed by Vince Young and David Garrard was probably his doing.

 

[khiladi]

Fair enough. Good points. Garrett is relentlessly conservative, so the defense won't feel they can be risky. Same with the offense on the road.

I just don't buy the sabotage narrative. He ain't that smart or duplicitous.

I didn’t say he sabotaged it. I said he was incompetent and the only reason Dallas won games after Wade was fired is because the DEFENSE generated 20 TOs the remainder of the season and they played bum teams out of the play-off race. All Garrett did was went conservative and ran the ball more.

Garrett’s offense was still incompetent and couldn’t even beat the 5-10 Cardinals at the time, when the defense couldn’t generate a single TO but Garrett’s offense committed three that game.

Garrett has always been mediocre and incompetent.

 

[Noclaf]

Jesse Holley is a clown.

The one play he made in his career, he almost completely screwed it up. This could have easily ended up in a fumble out of the back of the end zone. That was the Romo punctured lung game.

And he owns that, he was also on the Pats and was right on about the game a few weeks ago