Questions about types of Head Coaches

[xwalker]

I could research this but I thought I would just ask the questions instead.

The questions are in regards to making it to the Super Bowl even if they didn't win.

Question #1:
How many assistant coaches that were promoted to Head Coach of the same team made it to the Super Bowl (Since 1980).

Not assistants that departed and then returned as HC. Just assistants directly promoted to HC.

George Seifert comes to mind.

Question #2:
When looking at team/HC combos and the 1st time that combo got to the Super Bowl, how often was that HC hired as an up and coming coach vs a recycled NFL Head Coach vs College Head Coach?

To clarify:
Jimmy: College HC

Belichick: Technically a recycled NFL HC; although that Cleveland situation was more on the owner than Belichick (They fired him after moving to Baltimore).

Sean McVay and Sean Payton: Up and coming types when hired by Rams/Saints.

Tom Coughlin: SB success as 2nd time NFL HC.

Pete Carroll: Both NFL and College HC before SB success with Seahawks.

 

[cowboy_ron]

Unless Jerry changes there's only one type for Dallas and that's a non coach that were getting rid of..........our only hope is for Jerry to take his last breath.

 

[AbeBeta]

Parcells was promoted to HC in NY

 

[Ranched]

"Both NFL and college HC before SB success"
You forgot Johnson & Switzer when mentioning Carroll. Incidentally, ALL 3 have won college championships as well.

They don't need a coach with championships, they need a coach that's experienced in the NFL.

Myer certainly isn't but Saban, McCarthy & Harbaugh are.

 

[cowboyec]

Raiders had 2 asst promoted to HC who won Super Bowls for them...John Madden and Tom Flores...Bill Callahan was promoted from OL to HC and took them to a SB but lost.

Giants promoted Parcells from DC to HC...won 2 Super Bowls.

49ers promoted George Seifert from DC to HC and won 2 SBs.

 

[xwalker]

"Both NFL and college HC before SB success"
You forgot Johnson & Switzer when mentioning Carroll. Incidentally, ALL 3 have won college championships as well.

They don't need a coach with championships, they need a coach that's experienced in the NFL.

Myer certainly isn't but Saban, McCarthy & Harbaugh are.

Switzer was not an NFL HC with another team before winning a Super Bowl.

Jimmy didn't win an SB in Miami at which point he had been both prior to being hired.

Pete Carroll was the Jets HC then an HC in college then the HC of the Seahawks where he won a Super Bowl.

 

[cowboyec]

outside hires who were NFL assts and won SB.
Lombardi
Landry
Noll
Ditka
Gibbs
Holmgren
Cowher
Belichick
Billick
Tomlin
McCarthy
Harbaugh
Pederson

 

[xwalker]

Raiders had 2 asst promoted to HC who won Super Bowls for them...John Madden and Tom Flores...Bill Callahan was promoted from OL to HC and took them to a SB but lost.

Giants promoted Parcells from DC to HC...won 2 Super Bowls.

49ers promoted George Seifert from DC to HC and won 2 SBs.

Good point on Callahan.

Madden/Flores were hired before 1980 but good to point them out anyway.

Seifert is the one I had mentioned.

 

[cowboyec]

outside hire who was a NFL HC before and won SB...

weeb ewbank,jets(colts before)
don shula,dolphins(colts before)
jon gruden,tampa(raiders before)

 

[cowboyec]

Bud Grant was REALLY an outside hire....was HC in the CFL then got hired by minnesota and took'm to 4 super bowls.

outside hires who were NFL asst and took team to SB but didnt win...
Raymond Berry,Patriots
Dan Reeves,Broncos
Sam Wyche,Bengals
Andy Reid,Eagles
Jim Fasel,Giants
John Fox,Panthers
Ken Whisenhunt,Arizona
Dan Quinn,Falcons
Sean McVey,Rams


Rams promoted Mike Martz,he got'm to the SB but lost to NE.

 

[Zman5]

Switzer was not an NFL HC with another team before winning a Super Bowl.

Jimmy didn't win an SB in Miami at which point he had been both prior to being hired.

Pete Carroll was the Jets HC then an HC in college then the HC of the Seahawks where he won a Super Bowl.

Carroll was also the HC of the Patriots before moving on to USC.

 

[Cowboyny]

The Cowboys have to avoid becoming the Al Davis Raiders, looking for the next great "young coach". Kiffin, Allen, Cable, etc. They need to recycle a Head Coach with a proven track record of success on this level. One who is innovative to the current times and will adjust his scheme with the talent he has on the roster. This coach needs to not only be allowed to hire his own staff and be able to recruit top assistants.

One Coach who fits this criteria, is the Michigan Coach, Jim Harbaugh. He was a very successful Head Coach with the 49ers, was a play away from winning the Super Bowl against the Ravens. His staff consisted of Greg Roman as his OC and Vic Fangio as his DC. Both coaches have had tremendous success since on this level.

 

[DogFace]

Harbaugh is my second choice to Meyer. If I have to have a second. There’s no third.

 

[acr731]

Unless Jerry changes there's only one type for Dallas and that's a non coach that were getting rid of..........our only hope is for Jerry to take his last breath.

Tell him all the hookers who partied on his bus over the years are filing paternity suits. That might speeds things up a bit.

 

[MikeB80]

Bill Parcells - NY Giants DC-LB 81-82 promoted to Head Coach 1983

Mike Martz - St. Louis OC 1999 - Promoted to Head Coach 2000

George Siefert - SF DC 83-88 - Promoted to Head Coach 1989

Bill Callahan - OAK - OC 98-01 - Promoted to Head Coach 2002

Tom Flores - OAK - WR -1978 - Promoted to Head Coach 1979

Jeff Fisher -SF DB 92-93 - Hired by Houston as DC 94 became interim then HC in 95

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Joe Gibbs -SD OC 79-80 - Hired as Washington HC 1981

Mike Ditka -DAL- Asst HC 73-81 - Hired as Chicago HC 1982

Mike Holmgren - SF OC -89-91 - Hired as GB Head Coach 1992

Bill Cowher - KC DC 89-91 - Hired as Pitt HC 1992

Brian Billick - Minn OC 94-98 - Hired as Baltimore HC 1999

Mike Tomlin - Minn DC 06 - Hired as Pitt HC 2007

Sean Payton - Dallas Asst. HC/QB 03-05 - Hired as NO HC 2006

Mike McCarthy -SF OC 2005 - Hired as GB HC 2006

Doug Pederson -KC OC 13-15 - Hired as PHI HC 2016

Jeff Fisher -SF DB 92-93 - Hired by Houston as DC 94 became interim then HC in 95

Dan Reeves -Dal Asst. 74-80 - Hired by Denver 1981

Jim Fassel - Arz OC 1996 - Hired as NY Giants HC 1997

John Fox -NYG DC 97-01 - Hired as Carolina HC 2002

Andy Reid -GB QB 98 - Hired as PHI HC 1999

Lovie Smith -STL DC 01-03 - Hired by CHI as HC 2004

John Harbaugh -PHI ST 98-07 - Hired as Baltimore HC 2008

Ron Rivera -SD DC 08-10 - Hired as Carolina DC 2011

Dan Quinn - SEA DC 13-14 - Hired as ATL HC 2015

Sean McVay -WAS asst. 10-16 - Hired as LA Rams HC 2017

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retreads

Mike Shanahan - SF OC 94 - Hired as Denver HC 1995 (technically a retread LA 88-89)

Tom Coughlin - NY 2004

Bill Belichick - NE 2000

Miike Holmgren - Seattle 1999

Gary Kubiak - Denver 2015

Dick Vermeil - St.Louis 1997

Marv Levy - 1986

Dan Reeves - Atlanta 1997

Bill Parcells -NE 1993

Jon Gruden -TB 2002

Dennis Green - ARZ 2004

Tony Dungy -IND 2002

Pete Carroll - SEA 2010
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Oddball scenarios

Raymond Berry - Worked in Real Estate 82-83 - Hired by NE 1984

Forrest Gregg -Toronto 79- Hired by Cincy as HC 1980
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College to Pro to SB

Sam Wyche - Indiana HC 1983 - Hired by CIN as HC 1984

Bobby Ross -GT 87-91 - Hired as SD HC 1992

Jim Harbaugh -Stanford 07-10 - Hired as SF HC 2011

Jimmy Johnson -MIA 84-88 - Hired as Dallas HC 1989

Dick Vermeil - UCLA 74-75 - Hired as PHI HC 1976

 

[Dak_Attack_09]

Unless Jerry changes there's only one type for Dallas and that's a non coach that were getting rid of..........our only hope is for Jerry to take his last breath.

Nope, just need to get rid of Clapper and get a coach like Rivea, Meyers or McDaniels.

 

[cowboy_ron]

Nope, just need to get rid of Clapper and get a coach like Rivea, Meyers or McDaniels.

Lol, oh lord....