My thoughts on Rayne Dakota Prescott

[MysteryIceGuro]

It explains what goes into the formula.
The problem is we have 2 QB rating systems and Dak is excellent in both.
So its not like we can debate which is better and which we should use. Take your pick. They both say he has played very well.
Can you find one where he doesnt rank well?

All of that is bulljive. Dak is only excellent in both of those because he is basically cheating the system. His stats are inflated from the first part of the season. They will deflate a lot after these past few games he has had are calculated. On top of that, his garbage time stats are calculated when they shouldn’t be counted. Also, even if this QBR was as egregious as you are making it seem, his QBR has failed is in the most crucial of games. What was his QBR against the Pats? Bears? Bills? 2nd Philly game? Below 40 for all of those I believe.

What a joke. You’re trying real hard to defend this dude. Why is so hard to admit that he’s just not the QB we need him to be? You know, stage one of the 5 stages of grief is denial. The next is anger. I wish you the best through the rest of the stages.


BTW, peep at his PFF rating. Not so great after these last few games .

 

[superonyx]

So explain how EPA is calculated... hoe do they determine difficulty of play?

How does QBR take into account completion percentage getting blown out against prevent defense?

You would have to email ESPN. We already established they don't release the weights of the formula.
You are avoiding the point made and repeating yourself here. Thats a clear sign of a beaten man.

Both QB measuring ratings have him performing very well. You can't find one that doesn't. Can you find any categories we can discuss where he isnt near the top of the league? Pick a meaningful one so we can have a meaningful discussion.

This "fake news" tactic may work on someone else. I see through it. It's weak and sad.

 

[khiladi]

You would have to email ESPN. We already established they don't release the weights of the formula.
You are avoiding the point made and repeating yourself here. Thats a clear sign of a beaten man.

Both QB measuring ratings have him performing very well. You can't find one that doesn't. Can you find any categories we can discuss where he isnt near the top of the league? Pick a meaningful one so we can have a meaningful discussion.

This "fake news" tactic may work on someone else. I see through it. It's weak and sad.

So the point is you have NO CLUE how it’s calculated like I said..

The point is, I don’t care how it rates him, because there is a whole list of subjectivity in it. If includes garbage time stats against prevent defenses.

Ryan Fitzpatrick is top 10 per QBR. Who cares?

 

[Nav22]

there goes that lame stat again, that nobody knows how they calculate.

last year:

Don’t matter... All Dak does is win..

this year:

look at the stats..

Absolutely none of what you said changed the point homie. Dak has an all-pro line that gives him 10 seconds to throw and he still chokes against third string Eagles scrubs.

Find a reasonable metric that shows that Dak sucks.

I’ll wait.

LOL so NOW “QB wins” are what counts to you?

That’s hilarious. His overall career record AND his overall stats are both very good.

You have nothing.

 

[khiladi]

Find a reasonable metric that shows that Dak sucks.

I’ll wait.

LOL so NOW “QB wins” are what counts to you?

That’s hilarious. His overall career record AND his overall stats are both very good.

You have nothing.

Those stats are there right along Jameis Winston who has a much worse roster.

 

[superonyx]

All of that is bulljive. Dak is only excellent in both of those because he is basically cheating the system. His stats are inflated from the first part of the season. They will deflate a lot after these past few games he has had are calculated. On top of that, his garbage time stats are calculated when they shouldn’t be counted. Also, even if this QBR was as egregious as you are making it seem, his QBR has failed is in the most crucial of games. What was his QBR against the Pats? Bears? Bills? 2nd Philly game? Below 40 for all of those I believe.

What a joke. You’re trying real hard to defend this dude. Why is so hard to admit that he’s just not the QB we need him to be? You know, stage one of the 5 stages of grief is denial. The next is anger. I wish you the best through the rest of the stages.


BTW, peep at his PFF rating. Not so great after these last few games .

Sorry but QBR takes garbage time into consideration and gives those plays less weight. Read the article.
It also takes the bad and good games into consideration. His QBR didn't just start being good this season. We now have 4 years of both QBR and QB Rating.
We also have him in the probowl 2 out of 4 years. We have him at the top of 4th qtr and come from behind wins. Great win loss record.

I would love to analyze his ratings or stats but anyone we could look at has him playing pretty well.

You are going to have to get used to him being our QB. He isnt going anywhere. Thats as close to a guarantee and you will get in this sport.

 

[Nav22]

What does it matter what I do? That doesn’t relate to his garbage performances. You think I’m pricking his voodoo doll and that’s why he’s sailing balls ten feet above a WRs head?

I LOVE the idea of you sitting there miserably while Dak plays well.

What an awful 4 years this has been for you!

Your nightmare will continue in 2020. You lose.

 

[superonyx]

His overall career record against winning teams is trash and he’s sucking up the joint and choking away a chance at the playoffs after staring off with like a five game head start..

What is his overall career record against winning teams and how does it compare to other QB's?

 

[khiladi]

I LOVE the idea of you sitting there miserably while Dak plays well.

What an awful 4 years this has been for you!

Your nightmare will continue in 2020. You lose.

And yet here you are trying desperately to defend Dak for four years..

 

[khiladi]

What is his overall career record against winning teams and how does it compare to other QB's?

From 2017 onwards, up to October 2019 it was 5-9, with 23 TDs and 18 TOs and 49 sacks. It’s gotten worse since then, while having one of the most talented rosters in the league.

But why you changing the subject? So you have no clue how QBR is formulated then?

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

Sorry but QBR takes garbage time into consideration and gives those plays less weight. Read the article.
It also takes the bad and good games into consideration. His QBR didn't just start being good this season. We now have 4 years of both QBR and QB Rating.
We also have him in the probowl 2 out of 4 years. We have him at the top of 4th qtr and come from behind wins. Great win loss record.

I would love to analyze his ratings or stats but anyone we could look at has him playing pretty well.

You are going to have to get used to him being our QB. He isnt going anywhere. Thats as close to a guarantee and you will get in this sport.

1st of all, ProBowl is a joke. Even if it wasn’t, the 2nd time he got in, he was basically a understudy. He wasn’t voted in, he was the only option the NFL had left. Just so you know, Trubisky got in as well. He’s as big of a joke as Dak is.

2nd of all, get used to not winning any games and not going to any super bowls as well if we overpay that mediocre circus chimp to be our QB. If he truly isn’t going anywhere else, that’s truly unfortunate for this franchise. We get rid of redhead carrot top Garrett, but we will soon be handcuffed by an average QB at best.

3rd, where were those 4th Q comebacks this season? Oh wait, THEY DONT EXIST. Dallas is like in 1st place in one score losses or something. Dak can’t get it done despite his defense holding it down for him at times, even though our defense sucks more often than not.

4th of all, if you’re so sure about Dak getting paid, why has he yet to get paid yet? Goff and Wentz have despite similar production according to you, so why has he yet to get paid? Jerry isn’t sold on him and you know it. Like the team, Jerry is all talk. I’ll believe it when I see the alert that he has been paid. Actions speak louder than words. Til then, I’m not worried about Dak being our franchise QB. On top of that, I’m more than sure Jerry will be a little more cautious on handing out contracts after seeing how it went with the mediocre D-Law, Zeke, and Jaylon Smith, who are all having the worst years of their careers. Jerry will not settle for mediocrity and will not shell out for players who think they are worth more than what they actually are.

 

[khiladi]

I mean we can go with other stats, like Dak has only 2 come from behind victories of 10 points or more, meaning two scores since 2016. The guy I don’t think has won a game this year when losing at half.

 

[superonyx]

From 2017 onwards, up to October 2019 it was 5-9, with 23 TDs and 18 TOs and 49 sacks. It’s gotten worse since then, while having one of the most talented rosters in the league.

But why you changing the subject? So you have no clue how QBR is formulated then?

No changing anything. I already posted the article "fake news" guy.
I can't read it for you also.
Show me how its biased and favors Dak? Its an equal measure of all QB's or show me how it isnt. So even if the formula is debatable the fact that he still ranks at the top isnt.

You have nothing.

 

[khiladi]

No changing anything. I already posted the article "fake news" guy.
I can't read it for you also.
Show me how its biased and favors Dak? Its an equal measure of all QB's or show me how it isnt. So even if the formula is debatable the fact that he still ranks at the top isnt.

You have nothing.

So now your shifting to bias? I said the QBR stat is subjective and pretty much a joke. I don’t care for it, meaning whether or not he is in the top 10 is irrelevant. So is Ryan Fitzpatrick.

There is nothing debatable about the QBR. You have no clue how it works, just like I said. ESPN doesn’t release that information either. Your link provided you nothing other than the fact you have no idea what “nobody knows how it is calculated” really means. ESPN claims to measure for certain thinks that the normal rating doesn’t, but we have no clue how they weigh it. Daks QBR has been influenced by garbage time stats, like against Chicago and the Eagles.

 

[superonyx]

1st of all, ProBowl is a joke. Even if it wasn’t, the 2nd time he got in, he was basically a understudy. He wasn’t voted in, he was the only option the NFL had left. Just so you know, Trubisky got in as well. He’s as big of a joke as Dak is.

2nd of all, get used to not winning any games and not going to any super bowls as well if we overpay that mediocre circus chimp to be our QB. If he truly isn’t going anywhere else, that’s truly unfortunate for this franchise. We get rid of redhead carrot top Garrett, but we will soon be handcuffed by an average QB at best.

3rd, where were those 4th Q comebacks this season? Oh wait, THEY DONT EXIST. Dallas is like in 1st place in one score losses or something. Dak can’t get it done despite his defense holding it down for him at times, even though our defense sucks more often than not.

4th of all, if you’re so sure about Dak getting paid, why has he yet to get paid yet? Goff and Wentz have despite similar production according to you, so why has he yet to get paid? Jerry isn’t sold on him and you know it. Like the team, Jerry is all talk. I’ll believe it when I see the alert that he has been paid. Actions speak louder than words. Til then, I’m not worried about Dak being our franchise QB. On top of that, I’m more than sure Jerry will be a little more cautious on handing out contracts after seeing how it went with the mediocre D-Law, Zeke, and Jaylon Smith, who are all having the worst years of their careers. Jerry will not settle for mediocrity and will not shell out for players who think they are worth more than what they actually are.

Haha.. You really believe that Dak won't be signed and we will let him walk? Be honest.
What could this be based on?
Jerry isnt letting Dak go anywhere. I didnt realize that someone not signing yet means its because the team doesnt want to sign him. That will just make you look as foolish as the Saints fans that thought Sean Peyton wouldnt be signed until he was.

I need to sign off. Im tired and these kids will be up early to see what the fat man left them.

Merry christmas.

 

[khiladi]

I don’t harp on these rating metrics, because they are subjective nonsense and just give people some number to talk about like they know something. It’s not even tied to actually watching the game, ESPN uses a video analyst tool.

 

[superonyx]

So now your shifting to bias? I said the QBR stat is subjective and pretty much a joke. I don’t care for it, meaning whether or not he is in the top 10 is irrelevant. So is Ryan Fitzpatrick.

There is nothing debatable about the QBR. You have no clue how it works, just like I said. ESPN doesn’t release that information either. Your link provided you nothing other than the fact you have no idea what “nobody knows how it is calculated” really means. ESPN claims to measure for certain thinks that the normal rating doesn’t, but we have no clue how they weigh it. Daks QBR has been influenced by garbage time stats, like against Chicago and the Eagles.

Read the article.It clearly gives less weight to garbage time stats.

I need to sign off. Got to get some sleep.

Merry Christmas fake news man.

 

[khiladi]

Read the article.It clearly gives less weight to garbage time stats.

I need to sign off. Got to get some sleep.

Merry Christmas fake news man.

No, it gives less weight to scoring when the clock RUNS OUT. It still doesn’t define what a winnable game or garbage time is when in fact we know what garbage time is, which is a lot of Dak’s stats.

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

Haha.. You really believe that Dak won't be signed and we will let him walk? Be honest.
What could this be based on?
Jerry isnt letting Dak go anywhere. I didnt realize that someone not signing yet means its because the team doesnt want to sign him. That will just make you look as foolish as the Saints fans that thought Sean Peyton wouldnt be signed until he was.

I need to sign off. Im tired and these kids will be up early to see what the fat man left them.

Merry christmas.

Dak will walk and come back once he realizes no one wants him for his price tag. He will take 28 mil (cousins pay) or leave. That’s his ceiling and I hope he knows that. If so, Jerry will draft another QB. We don’t know what goes on in that senile man’s head. We will see...

Merry Christmas to you as well.

 

[Nav22]

Those stats are there right along Jameis Winston who has a much worse roster.

So we should dismiss all stats.

And we should also dismiss his overall W-L record, since you’ve already established that it “doesn’t count”.

Got it.