Twitter: ESPN- Kellen expected to stay as OC

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Not a great leadoff to your counter.

There are some that prefer coaching in college and there's no assurance he gets the Cowboys HC job but he's at the NFL level now and if he prefers that, going back to college in hopes of returning to the NFL isn't the usual path.

In one season, he took the offense to a #1 ranking with the least amount of coaching experience I've ever seen. He has the opportunity, at a very young age, to learn from one of the most successful coaches with QB development over the last couple of decades. The fact that Big Mike wants him to stay would be enough were it me.

I see this along the lines of Zimmer agreeing to stay and learn more about D from one of the better practitioners of the 3/4 who also wanted him to stay because he saw something in him. Moore gets to learn from a WCO guy.

Might of been a dumb way to lead off my argument but I still stand by the fact that there was never a chance he was ever leaving the Dallas Cowboys to be an offensive coordinator for a college football team. There was never a chance. The only reason he considered it is because he didn't know if he had his job here. That's the ONLY reason he probably ever "considered" it.
 

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I do not if it is real and not some gift to Booger. Booger likes him so much he invited him to circumvent his previous HC.

If he genuinely wants him because he sees something like Parcells saw in Zimmer, then I am good with it. As long as Moore can take direction and doesn't think he's all that with the #1 ranking O.
 

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IMO, it's more of a guy to implement McCarthy's offense and maybe add some of his concepts that MM approves. Not someone to install their own offense and calls their own plays. Mike made his name with his offense, he's not handing it over to anyone. I am trying to see it as a positive, in that hiring an OC that was purely a McCarthy disciple they wouldn't add anything that Mike doesn't already know. We'll see. With that said, I also get wanting a complete house cleaning too...
 

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Not happy with that decision. But, working with a new HC may bring out a bit more of Moores talent. He deserves that much.

Just don't make him a HC after 5 years. :lmao:
 

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Mike will call plays. He said his mistake late in his career was the coach that implemented the gameplan had to call the plays. He said he was trying to get guys to learn but it didn’t work.

I think he'll let KM call plays except maybe in crucial situations which is pretty common in the NFL. It'll probably be a collaborative effort on the game plan. KM has a lot to offer and from what I've read MM knows it.
 

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Might of been a dumb way to lead off my argument but I still stand by the fact that there was never a chance he was ever leaving the Dallas Cowboys to be an offensive coordinator for a college football team. There was never a chance. The only reason he considered it is because he didn't know if he had his job here. That's the ONLY reason he probably ever "considered" it.
Could be and his family might like where they live now. I know Parcells got really comfortable in Dallas and said he would miss it more than any place he'd lived but he was building his dream home in Saratoga.

Moore's a smart guy, he realizes he has one year at QBC and one at OC and if the new HC, a well respected O guy, wants him, he'd be foolish to not take the opportunity at 30 to gain some more experience and witness how another HC does it.

The fact that he's not a WCO guy doesn't concern me. The guys off that Walsh coaching tree all ran different variations on it anyway. One thing I am looking forward to are the patterns because the goal is to get the receiver headed downfield, not deadended on curls so much. I think it will be interesting to track the YAC vs previous years.
 

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So why is he returning to the Cowboys? Yes. People knock on the doors to coach this team. If you don't think that you are absurd. It doesn't matter how awful we are this is the biggest sports team in North America. You knock on the door about that job. Does anyone realize how big this team is or do you guys honestly just hate the Cowboys so much that you are in denial over how big this franchise really is.
I love this franchise. But if you grew up a Pittsburgh fan and you have an opportunity to coach the Steelers MOST will coach there favorite team . Dude why is it so hard for you to think University of Washington was not in consideration for HIM. You realizet hat just as many people you think Love the Cowboys that same amount just about Hate them. And some folks dont wanna be here and work with Jerry come on now dont be onesided
 

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Out of all the possible OCs in the league no way Mccarthy picks moore unless he was told to. Wink nod.
Did you know who his OC's were at GB? I didn't either because he's a hands on the offense HC and the OC is not the same role Moore had with Garrett.

Why is it so hard to accept that maybe Big Mike sees something there, as well as Kitna. There is no denying that the QB started off 2019 better than he ended 2018 or denying that Moore, as a 1st year and inexperienced OC, faced some tough DC's and gained valuable experience and maybe Big Mike sees a coach that the players responded to when they didn't seem to be responding to any of the other coaches.

Maybe Big Mike saw something in an inexperienced coach in a situation that was coming undone and is intrigued by what he might do in one just getting off the ground. I don't think it's fair to him to assume he's there just because Booger wanted it. How many HC's would like the OC of the #1 offense in the NFL to help them turn the ship?
 

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I don't think we know the extent of Moore's hunger to be the next McVay. He was in Dallas because of Linehan and had no problem slipping right on into his job. Moore is like George Bailey, an ambitious young man. I think being wanted by Big Mike fits right in with his career path plans.

I am sure he and his wife discussed Washington just as I am sure they discussed Dallas and which opportunity fit the overall plan. And don't underestimate that NFL to college pecking order, coaches coach in college because they can't coach in the NFL. He's already started out down the right path.
 

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So why is he returning to the Cowboys? Yes. People knock on the doors to coach this team. If you don't think that you are absurd. It doesn't matter how awful we are this is the biggest sports team in North America. You knock on the door about that job. Does anyone realize how big this team is or do you guys honestly just hate the Cowboys so much that you are in denial over how big this franchise really is.
I'm confused by this question. Are you trying to suggest that because he didn't choose option B that he didn't need to think about it?
 

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Out of all the possible OCs in the league no way Mccarthy picks moore unless he was told to. Wink nod.

Everyone said that about Zimmer and Parcells and he tore them up. Parcells knew the media was implying he was Jerry's stooge and stopped it right there. I still remember that PC. He had some good points on keeping some of what works in the new staff, and also his thoughts on coaches. I remember that Parcells loved working with coach's sons, guys who had been groomed for it their whole life, and Kellen fits that mold. McCarthy needs to do something similar today if that question comes up. Parcells could carry a room and you never doubted who was in charge. I hope Big Mike can do the same.
 

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IMO, it's more of a guy to implement McCarthy's offense and maybe add some of his concepts that MM approves. Not someone to install their own offense and calls their own plays. Mike made his name with his offense, he's not handing it over to anyone. I am trying to see it as a positive, in that hiring an OC that was purely a McCarthy disciple they wouldn't add anything that Mike doesn't already know. We'll see. With that said, I also get wanting a complete house cleaning too...
I think you have the right idea here. Offenses have to evolve every year -- Mike is on record saying he didn't do enough of that towards the end of Green Bay. Kellen will be great at helping with that, and he already knows what our players do well and what they don't. That's huge in itself, but especially when we are about to commit to Dak long term and immediately change the offense on him -- I mean I'm ecstatic that Moore is staying to help with that transition.
 
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