What if Dak was a Free Agent?

[starfan1]

There are people that aren't Cowboys fans that feel Dak is average at best. I'm not using any easy outs because Dak is average. When your best games mainly come against bums and your worse ones mainly come against decent teams I can't really say that's good or elite. If Dak was actually better he wouldn't get criticism as much.

sure there are as there are some that think differently he is very good. Look dak isnt a finished product and his off target throws are an issue ( his receivers could have also helped him out a bit more)but this team was in no better shape the past 10 years IMO. We have had issues with defense and coaching for years and a QB unreliability in other ways. I want to see what hes got under MM. That said when you have a top 10-15 QB they just dont grow on trees

Your views are your views we can just agree to disagree because in my mind were in no worse shape than we have been for a long time and in terms of issues Dak is down the list. Dak is above average just not elite

 

[shabazz]

What I’d love to know is what the alternative at QB is for the anti Dak people? And I’m talking clear upgrade.

Obviously the draft is one way to go or via free agency since hes asking for a Kings Ransom anyway. Perfect time to add depth at the Qb position or perhaps a new QB that can put together more than 3 field goals against the Eagles for the division title

 

[blueblood70]

you can get a QB close to Dak at half the price and still win??? i want to know this fantasy,who and how will we acquire said QB?

lets see Romo was Undrafted, Dak was a 4th rounder , tom brady a 6th rounder, RW a 3rd rounder, and again teams with rookies and players like Case keenum of the world play for half that and get similar results.. going 10-6, 9-7 and 8-8 is not like we are doing much better with dak..

look at the impending FA market and the draft there are players that could be options over paying dak 35plus.. its that smile, you act as if we are backed into a wall with no options..

once more BUILD a better dense and special teams with the extra money and get a journeymen QB along with a draft pick to start grooming..

not saying dont try and sign dak but anything more then 33 would be a mistake..Elite money is reserved for elite players, daks not Elite sorry its the truth

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

This is exactly how the Commanders ended up where they are.

 

[blueblood70]

You’re naming either small sizes or fluke seasons. Are we not going for sustained success? Your options are A. Resign Dak or B. Tank and hope you draft the right QB in the top 5. Anything in between is a waste of time.
I don’t think Dak is 1 of the best QB’s (probably borderline top 10), but I also don’t think anyone near his level is available. So you either suck for 2 seasons and waste the majority of our teams prime years left, or you stick with Dak and hope the better coaching will make a difference. Thinking we are going to build a super team around a mediocre QB and actually have success is naive at best.

no need to tank

Build a defense, play better STs, use a strong run game, and better coaching has shown you can win without overpaying for a QB , hes not Elite but elite $$$ money is what he wants..in that scenario no way..

you sound like desperate GM and pay anything for above average when ytou can get that for less..

 

[reddyuta]

lets see Romo was Undrafted, Dak was a 4th rounder , tom brady a 6th rounder, RW a 3rd rounder, and again teams with rookies and players like Case keenum of the world play for half that and get similar results.. going 10-6, 9-7 and 8-8 is not like we are doing much better with dak..

look at the impending FA market and the draft there are players that could be options over paying dak 35plus.. its that smile, you act as if we are backed into a wall with no options..

once more BUILD a better dense and special teams with the extra money and get a journeymen QB along with a draft pick to start grooming..

not saying dont try and sign dak but anything more then 33 would be a mistake..Elite money is reserved for elite players, daks not Elite sorry its the truth

if you can guarantee a 5000 yard passer in the draft then i would be all for it,heck with your play we should be drafting a QB in the late RDs every 3-4 years and let the QB go,win win all around.

 

[reddyuta]

no need to tank

Build a defense, play better STs, use a strong run game, and better coaching has shown you can win without overpaying for a QB , hes not Elite but elite $$$ money is what he wants..in that scenario no way..

you sound like desperate GM and pay anything for above average when ytou can get that for less..

you know this applies to Dak too right?,if our Defense generated more TOs or our STs were not shockingly bad we would still be playing football.

 

[blueblood70]

if you can guarantee a 5000 yard passer in the draft then i would be all for it,heck with your play we should be drafting a QB in the late RDs every 3-4 years and let the QB go,win win all around.

a guy like Fitzpatrick, sure maybe but you keep missing the point 5k got us nothing when it counted against the better teams he wasn't that 5k QB during the 6 games late in the season..


no need for 5k in passing how about 4k and a strong run game, better defense, special teams , and coaching..our strengths lye in Zeke, pollard and the Oline.. when we leaned on that we were 10-6 and 13-3 with the playoffs, when we lean on Dak we have been 9-7 and 8-8 no playoffs..

most of the top yard producing stat padding QBs did Not make the playoffs..choke on that..i rather spend the extra cash on defense, depth, and late the coaching staff do their thing..

 

[blueblood70]

you know this applies to Dak too right?,if our Defense generated more TOs or our STs were not shockingly bad we would still be playing football.

yes 2mil rookie deal dak..yes but not 34+mil dak..geez Louise you guys miss the point.. its tough to do both , if Dak were Elite throw the money on him and try and improve the other areas best you can , Daks not elite and throwing elite money at him when you need MORE money to build around him to live with his warts so to speak.. you cant do both..

no one hating on Dak, I like him but as a internet GM I see his faults and we cant afford to pay him 34+ he needs to get 30-32 maybe max if not I believe the saved money can go toward a better overall team and a Qb for half the price that isnt leaned on to do it all..

 

[tm1119]

no need to tank

Build a defense, play better STs, use a strong run game, and better coaching has shown you can win without overpaying for a QB , hes not Elite but elite $$$ money is what he wants..in that scenario no way..

you sound like desperate GM and pay anything for above average when ytou can get that for less..

such as?

 

[Philmonroe]

umm most QBs do well against bad teams and struggle against good teams,we had a lot of bad luck,lost some close games which we won last season.the Defense was atrocious in generating TOs and the ST was historically bad.the Offense rarely had short fields to work with and they didnt play well in the red zone.

Ok got it you want to keep Alex Smith jr ok cool

 

[Philmonroe]

sure there are as there are some that think differently he is very good. Look dak isnt a finished product and his off target throws are an issue ( his receivers could have also helped him out a bit more)but this team was in no better shape the past 10 years IMO. We have had issues with defense and coaching for years and a QB unreliability in other ways. I want to see what hes got under MM. That said when you have a top 10-15 QB they just dont grow on trees

Your views are your views we can just agree to disagree because in my mind were in no worse shape than we have been for a long time and in terms of issues Dak is down the list. Dak is above average just not elite

Dak is a finished product my man. How many dang years we going to run with this excuse? You don't keep getting noticeably better at any position esp when you've been starting 4/5 years already. We already agree to disagree when we were on different sides of this issue.

 

[blueblood70]

such as?

look man I dont have all day to debate this,.. the Dilfers, flaccos, tannehills a etc etc have enough talent and yes even and alex smith type Foles etc etc with the right plan around them can win or get to Sbs..

Flaccos a great example even Eli manning they were both on Daks tier but once they go the biggest money it exposed the tema, taxed their cap and they never got close again.

didnt Kap make a SB?.thats why the window for alot of teams is best when under a good QBs rookie deal..

if we had Mahomes we wouldnt be having this convo..

its debatable sure but it can be done.. no one saw the titans coming after they started horribly changed QBs to a qb known as a failure in Miami and decided a run game and defense with good coaching could do it and they are in the NFCC=g with Tannehill!

 

[starfan1]

Dak is a finished product my man. How many dang years we going to run with this excuse? You don't keep getting noticeably better at any position esp when you've been starting 4/5 years already. We already agree to disagree when we were on different sides of this issue.

well then it looks like we dont have much more to say to each other then do we? We can carry on more when hes starting next year. Good day sir

 

[blueblood70]

well then it looks like we dont have much more to say to each other then do we? We can carry on more when hes starting next year. Good day sir

under the FT..lol sure..

 

[starfan1]

under the FT..lol sure..

you may be right dont matter to me it aint my cash

 

[Runwildboys]

Did he have a dramatic improvement or did he just play tomato cans? Think about it most of his better non stat padding games were against teams that stunk. Most of his bad games were against playoff caliber teams. Again I ask did he really improve or did he just look better against the bums on the schedule. Its funny to me how all the negatives you mentioned come right back as soon as the talent of the other team steps up and the improvement happens when its a bad team. I know some have hope but realistically like in most things you don't get better forever. Dak is getting towards the point of being set as a player. How many players really have crazy improve to after 4/5 years starting in the league? Not many. They might have little improvements here and there but the major improvements usually happen in the first few years. Next year if he has the same problems as this year are we still going to hear the he's young and if he can just fix xyz he'll be good?

No, I'd say he did improve. His timing was better, he was leading his receivers, and he was even throwing before they were open on occasion.
The better teams caused regression at times, IMO, but even Brady loses some of his shine under pressure, and it's probably better to regress under pressure than to just do it randomly.

 

[Runwildboys]

under the FT..lol sure..

HE SAID GOOD DAY!

 

[gjkoeppen]

No matter what he got just remember Dak is not a RW type that can win you games. He is more if a Cousins or Andy Dayton..that's just what he is. If you can do better we need to. Could MM do better under MM for 18m a year? We would have another 17 to get a few defenders so is that deal better? Maybe..it needs to be discussed. AND think about this Dak is going to lessen another teams ability to have an elite QB we cant dismiss that either. If I could sign MM to 2 years 30 to 36m with a team out after one yr I would do it...along with getting more defenders on our defense.

Who is the first MM? Is the third MM the same as the first one? Is it so hard to type out names instead of initials?
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[blueblood70]

Who is the first MM? Is the third MM the same as the first one? Is it so hard to type out names instead of initials?
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my guess Marcus MARIOTTA can do better under Mike McCarthy for half what Dak is demanding