Video: Dak Prescott should hold out if franchise tagged

[ABQCOWBOY]

He's a better option at 15-20 mill a year then Dak is at 35-40..

If you don't understand that then clearly you don't know football.

In fact... If anyone has been paying attention to my QB analysis in the draft zone for years you would think an NFL team should be paying me for my opinions.

LOL.... I wouldn't pay either one of us to analyze a Pop Warner team but that doesn't make wrong.

 

[Pola_pe_a]

Some of you guys are focusing on the number and not the market, The market number for a young starting QB begins around 30 mil.

And BTW Derrick Carr is getting 25 mil next year.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/quarterback/

 

[CATCH17]

LOL.... I wouldn't pay either one of us to analyze a Pop Warner team but that doesn't make wrong.

I've actually been ridiculously good at evaluating QB's.

These NFL guys that evaluate talent are not the best at their job either and they have much more access to information.

I'd imagine most of them got their job because their daddy used to coach in the league somewhere.

 

[blueblood70]

This will not happen and his agent would advise against any hold out. There might be some sabre rattling but he will be there with his team because no QB has ever held out, especially one with the exposure and endorsements he has.

The first QB to hold out will not be that team's QB and every agent knows it. There first question to their player is "do you want to stay here"? Followed by "how badly"?

A QB cannot hold out because he affects every piece of the prep of the offense for the season and the Cowboys are installing a new offense. How do you think Prescott would be viewed by the public? Getting 27.5M guaranteed and not showing up for work? Bye Campbells, Pepsi, Sleep Number and every other endorsement he has. And if he did that after the draft when they could have taken one, he would look even worse.

I'll tell ya, I would not be surprised with death threats against him by the good ole Cowboys fans holding out on 27.5M.

does the FT tag guarantee the entire amount against injury?

he may not hold out for the season but he could pull a Zeke and tank and skip TC and PS to limit exposure to injury and try and get the LTD hes seeking until sliding in at the last minute,,

Maybe no QB has done it but how much did Bell leave on the table 13mil..thats **** ton of money,, theres precedent..maybe the first 2 games to call jerrys bluff?

 

[CATCH17]

Some of you guys are focusing on the number and not the market, The market number for a young starting QB begins around 30 mil.

And BTW Derrick Carr is getting 25 mil next year.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/quarterback/

No, we know the market..

The problem is that these overpaid QB's are not winning anything.

It's the QB's on rookie deals and vets taking a paycut winning a Superbowl.

Jimmy G might be the first guy in awhile to break out of that but the rest of their roster I assume is pretty cheap.

 

[Pola_pe_a]

For those saying slap the tag on him you are missing a big part of that equation. Dak has to sign the offer. If he doesn’t, he isn’t holding out and he isn’t able to be fined. He could stay away until the first week of the season if he wanted to.

Dak has the leverage.

 

[CATCH17]

For those saying slap the tag on him you are missing a big part of that equation. Dak has to sign the offer. If he doesn’t, he isn’t holding out and he isn’t able to be fined. He could stay away until the first week of the season if he wanted to.

Dak has the leverage.

Transition tag.. Let him hit the open market.. Let's find out what he is really worth.

 

[Pola_pe_a]

Transition tag.. Let him hit the open market.. Let's find out what he is really worth.

If they aren’t locking him up that’s probably the best move. See what the league thinks and worst case they lose him but get two 1’s.

 

[DIAF]

He's a better option at 15-20 mill a year then Dak is at 35-40..

This kind of thinking is applicable to other sports, especially baseball where you can cheap out on some positions and bolster others, and have a better chance of winning.

Football, however is not one of those sports. The position of QB is THE most important position in all of sports. If you have to spend money there, you spend money there because getting a cheaper option usually results in crippling your team.

Drafting rookies who take a year or two to develop. Signing Free Agents who weren't deemed good enough to be resigned by their current teams. Backups who blossom into starters at just the right time and hit the market (very rare, but we have one this year in Teddy)

All of these mean you take a step back at QB.

 

[blueblood70]

Difference between a true Franchise QB and a middle of the road QB:

QB #1
31 Games 1,099 Attempts 724 Completions 65.9 % Comp. 9,412 Yards 76 TD's 18 INT's 108.9 QBR 110 Rushes 500 Yards 4 TD's Team Record as Starter 24 Wins 8 Losses Playoff Record 3 Wins 1 Loss

QB #2
64 Games 2,071 Attempts 1,363 Completions 65.8% Comp. 15,778 Yards 97 TD's 36 INT's 97 QBR 241 Rushes 1,221 Yards 21 TD's Team Record as Starter 40 Wins 24 Losses Playoff Record 0 Wins 2 Losses


QB #1 is Pat Mahomes and QB #2 is Dak Prescott. A QB can run up all the stats they want in garbage games and claim they deserve to be paid as a top franchise QB but the only stat that matters is do they elevate the team to the Super Bowl????? Well, in only is 2nd season as a starer Mahomes has done that whereas Dak in 4 seasons is nothing but a stat compiler.

all true except Dak is 1-2 in the playoffs he beta Seatle last year..lets not omit the good stuff..

also there arent many Mahomes in the league lets take out 5 teams now compare the league left over to Dak not the elite...those dont come around a lot so not sure what you are trying to imply..

there werent many Bradys, Pmannings, Young's, Marino's, or Montanas either..unfair comp..no matter what Mahomes will make more money then Dak..thats a given..

there typically 28 of 32 teams havig to do it diffently because they dont luck upon a elite QB..

 

[CATCH17]

This kind of thinking is applicable to other sports, especially baseball where you can cheap out on some positions and bolster others, and have a better chance of winning.

Football, however is not one of those sports. The position of QB is THE most important position in all of sports. If you have to spend money there, you spend money there because getting a cheaper option usually results in crippling your team.

Drafting rookies who take a year or two to develop. Signing Free Agents who weren't deemed good enough to be resigned by their current teams. Backups who blossom into starters at just the right time and hit the market (very rare, but we have one this year in Teddy)

All of these mean you take a step back at QB.

Show me the high paid QB's winning championships.

I agree with everything you said.. The QB is very important and if you have a elite one you better pay that guy.

Dak is just not one of those guys. You don't pay a QB like him a ton of money.

Once you pay these QB's a ton of money, even the truly elite QB's, it is tough to win a Championship.

Why would you pay a mediocre guy elite money with no title to show for it? WHY????

At least Joe Flacco had his Superbowl before the Ravens got stupid.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I've actually been ridiculously good at evaluating QB's.

These NFL guys that evaluate talent are not the best at their job either and they have much more access to information.

I'd imagine most of them got their job because their daddy used to coach in the league somewhere.

Look, you and me, we are buds in my book but I'm still not paying you anything Catch.

 

[CATCH17]

Look, you and me, we are buds in my book but I'm still not paying you anything Catch.

I hope Jerry says the same thing to Dak..

 

[DIAF]

Show me the high paid QB's winning championships.

I agree with everything you said.. The QB is very important and if you have a elite one you better pay that guy.

Dak is just not one of those guys. You don't pay a QB like him a ton of money.

Once you pay these QB's a ton of money, even the truly elite QB's, it is tough to win a Championship.

Why would you pay a mediocre guy elite money with no title to show for it? WHY????

At least Joe Flacco had his Superbowl before the Ravens got stupid.

Because its better to overpay a guy who is good but not elite, than it is to keep searching for a franchise QB.

Remember when we did that after Troy? It sucked.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I hope Jerry says the same thing to Dak..

OK, enough for me for today. I'll catch up with you guys tomorrow.

Have a good one y'all.

 

[CATCH17]

Because its better to overpay a guy who is good but not elite, than it is to keep searching for a franchise QB.

Remember when we did that after Troy? It sucked.

Why is it good?

Do you win championships by overpaying mediocre QBs?

Id rather be terrible then stuck in mediocrity as long as we don’t trade all of our picks away for Joey Galloway.

 

[Ranched]

Only 92 Days, 3 Hrs, 4 min left to go!

ABQ?!

Some of you guys are focusing on the number and not the market, The market number for a young starting QB begins around 30 mil.

And BTW Derrick Carr is getting 25 mil next year.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/quarterback/

That's insane for a quarterback whose only had one winning season & received a huge pay raise after that season only to continue having non-winning seasons.

Lol, that's almost as bad as Matt Ryan losing in Philly in the NFC championship game only to receive a big pay raise afterwards. What's wrong with some of these owners.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

He's a better option at 15-20 mill a year then Dak is at 35-40..

If you don't understand that then clearly you don't know football.

In fact... If anyone has been paying attention to my QB analysis in the draft zone for years you would think an NFL team should be paying me for my opinions.

who says Carr will take 15-20?

 

[buybuydandavis]

I agree with Bart Scott.
https://youtu.be/j6B7pLz4Dqo
0-5 against top 10 defenses.. 8 TDs and 7 turnovers..

Pay the man lol.

Dak isn't going to hold out. They make a deal or he plays under the tag.

Given that Dak played last year for 2mil w/o a long term contract, why wouldn't he play the coming year for 30+mil w/o a long term contract?

(Yeah, he needed to get an accrued season last year, but that's only 6 games. He played half a year he didn't need to play for 1mil.)

And if Jerry has doubts about Dak, or about paying QBs so much generally, he gets a cheap year with Dak w/o committing to a full contract.

I expect Dak to just play on the tag.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Just draft in the first round.. We'll be fine. QB's are better then ever coming out and Dallas has a rock solid foundation for any QB to step in and be ok.

Just get someone with a little mobility and we'll be fine.

With the increased passing game in college increasing the pool of NFL ready QBs. for years I've been wondering if the way to go is to churn running QBs. The recent explosion of QB contracts has made that more tenable.

As far as picking a franchise QB for free agent money, Dak is good enough.

But it's legitimate to question signing most any franchise QB. Especially for us. We're otherwise loaded on offense, and have the personnel to run a multithreat run game like Shanahan did in SF. 8 passes to win the NFC championship.