Interesting Romo stat I ran across

[12+88=7]

On BBI they have a thread for wins by a QB with a defense that was 16th or worse in points allowed from 1970 to 2016. It was from Reddit.

Romo has 42 such wins putting him 8th on the list.

The seven QBs ahead of him played more games and had more opportunities for wins, but it still is very impressive.

The best part is looking further down the list. Joe Montana had only 5 such games. Troy Aikman and Roethlisberger 11, Steve Young 16, and the GOAT Tom Brady 20.

There's others on the list, but you can clearly see who played with good defenses and who didn't.

Peyton Manning had the most, 102 wins of this kind. When looking at best ever, this would be a great stat for Peyton.

Eli Manning was third with 73 wins and the reason the thread was started.

P.S. since 2016 the Dallas defense has been better than 16th in points allowed every year(5th, 13th, 6th and 11th), so if you're interested, Prescott has no such wins.

 

[Aviano90]

How many of those wins were against teams with a winning record? That is a big stat around here recently.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

And away we go--The Joker.

 

[DallasEast]

Danger. Will. Robinson.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Man he was a cerebral machine. Like a chess master on the field. His body gave up before his mind.

I remember those duels he had with Tony Brady and Payton. Insane passing exhibition

 

[Nexx]

most misunderstood and under appreciated cowboy ever. miss you tony!!!

 

[12+88=7]

How many of those wins were against teams with a winning record? That is a big stat around here recently.

That's not listed.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

It doesn’t really move the needle much for me, but it’s not a bad thing to throw out there in defense of Eli. Of course, he and Peyton are both top 10 in history in total games started so if Eli’s percentage in those years isn’t much off of his overall mediocre winning percentage then I’m not sure what to make of it.

 

[StarBoyz83]

most misunderstood and under appreciated cowboy ever. miss you tony!!!

Best Dallas QB I've seen play

 

[black label]

Roger is King

 

[Ranching]

On BBI they have a thread for wins by a QB with a defense that was 16th or worse in points allowed from 1970 to 2016. It was from Reddit.

Romo has 42 such wins putting him 8th on the list.

The seven QBs ahead of him played more games and had more opportunities for wins, but it still is very impressive.

The best part is looking further down the list. Joe Montana had only 5 such games. Troy Aikman and Roethlisberger 11, Steve Young 16, and the GOAT Tom Brady 20.

There's others on the list, but you can clearly see who played with good defenses and who didn't.

Peyton Manning had the most, 102 wins of this kind. When looking at best ever, this would be a great stat for Peyton.

Eli Manning was third with 73 wins and the reason the thread was started.

P.S. since 2016 the Dallas defense has been better than 16th in points allowed every year(5th, 13th, 6th and 11th), so if you're interested, Prescott has no such wins.

Who is this Romo guy? His name sounds familiar.

 

[AmericanCowboy]

Man he was a cerebral machine. Like a chess master on the field. His body gave up before his mind.

I remember those duels he had with Tony Brady and Payton. Insane passing exhibition

so under appreciated. He truly was a wizard back there

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

How many of those wins were against teams with a winning record? That is a big stat around here recently.

Thats really irrelevent when used with the ops stat because we are talking about teams who were at least 16th worst in points given up, which basically means even the teams with a losing record were able to score points against those teams, just means the good teams scored more

 

[buybuydandavis]

On BBI they have a thread for wins by a QB with a defense that was 16th or worse in points allowed from 1970 to 2016. It was from Reddit.

Romo has 42 such wins putting him 8th on the list.

Romo carried the team for years. Anyone paying attention knew that. And not just the defense, but the offense too. For a few years, every play was hike the ball, avoid the jail break, throw the ball.

Sad for Romo and Cowboy fans that he broke down just at the height of his skill. Said that midway through 2013 he felt the game just slowed down for him. In 2014, he has an MVP season. Then breaks in 2015. And *again* in preseason against Seattle. Noooooooo! What's an old man doing scrambling in a preseason game?

I'm not complaining about Dak's performance in 2016, but I would have let Romo come back in 2016. The possibility of MVP level play is not something to pass up.

Almost Antonio.

Not that Romo has a tragic life. Now he's just the top paid NFL announcer. And rightly so. Gets to play a game and watch a game all his life for millions. Good for Tony.

 

[big dog cowboy]

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

And away we go--The Joker.

Did he just imply Romo could win without a defense but Dak can't? Or is it just an interesting Romo stat that takes a dig at Dak

Romo carried the team for years. Anyone paying attention knew that. And not just the defense, but the offense too. For a few years, every play was hike the ball, avoid the jail break, throw the ball.

Sad for Romo and Cowboy fans that he broke down just at the height of his skill. Said that midway through 2013 he felt the game just slowed down for him. In 2014, he has an MVP season. Then breaks in 2015. And *again* in preseason against Seattle. Noooooooo! What's an old man doing scrambling in a preseason game?

I'm not complaining about Dak's performance in 2016, but I would have let Romo come back in 2016. The possibility of MVP level play is not something to pass up.

Almost Antonio.

Not that Romo has a tragic life. Now he's just the top paid NFL announcer. And rightly so. Gets to play a game and watch a game all his life for millions. Good for Tony.

Anyone paying attention should have known the defenses he played with where inconsistent. Meaning he needed to drain the clock to stop those defenses from getting exposed. That why his best years (win wise) was when they ran M.Barber 350 plus times and when they ran D.Murray 350 plus times.

But he was a good QB who could have won a couple with better coaching, better balance, or better defenses. I wanted them to give him his starting job back in the 2016 playoffs, because a rookie QB has never won a Superbowl. So our best chance that year was with Romo not Dak.

Play good defense, play good special teams and run the ball. Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells had it right.

 

[12+88=7]

Did he just imply Romo could win without a defense but Dak can't? Or is it just an interesting Romo stat that takes a dig at Dak


I was reading about Manning's retirement and ran into this.

I mentioned Prescott because someone was bound to ask, and he has never played with a defense worst then 16th in points against in his career. Staubach is not listed at all, so I guess he also never played with such a defense. Bradshaw has 11 such wins for comparison.

You must be a Prescott supporter because right away you're trying to imply bias where none was intended at all. I have noticed that Prescott supporters are very paranoid always looking at every post to see if their man has been slighted. From Stripes, relax Francis.

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[RoboQB]

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Nice nugget. Interesting stat.
Easy to conclude, for those not suffering from blind hatred, that
Romo's teams rarely had solid defenses.
Nothing wrong with being proactive by mentioning Dak
in reference to that statistic. You knew it was coming.

I hate to correct you on a classic phrase from a classic movie
but the line is... "Lighten up Francis."

 

[12+88=7]

Nice nugget. Interesting stat.
Easy to conclude, for those not suffering from blind hatred, that
Romo's teams rarely had solid defenses.
Nothing wrong with being proactive by mentioning Dak
in reference to that statistic. You knew it was coming.

I hate to correct you on a classic phrase from a classic movie
but the line is... "Lighten up Francis."

Thanks for the correction.

 

[America's Cowboy]

On BBI they have a thread for wins by a QB with a defense that was 16th or worse in points allowed from 1970 to 2016. It was from Reddit.

Romo has 42 such wins putting him 8th on the list.

The seven QBs ahead of him played more games and had more opportunities for wins, but it still is very impressive.

The best part is looking further down the list. Joe Montana had only 5 such games. Troy Aikman and Roethlisberger 11, Steve Young 16, and the GOAT Tom Brady 20.

There's others on the list, but you can clearly see who played with good defenses and who didn't.

Peyton Manning had the most, 102 wins of this kind. When looking at best ever, this would be a great stat for Peyton.

Eli Manning was third with 73 wins and the reason the thread was started.

P.S. since 2016 the Dallas defense has been better than 16th in points allowed every year(5th, 13th, 6th and 11th), so if you're interested, Prescott has no such wins.

No one should be surprised Romo led the team to so many wins (42) due to playing beside such an average-or-worse defense (16th ranked-or-worse). Romo was very talented and the owner of most Cowboys franchise QB passing records for that reason. Of course, Dak would have no (0) wins to such a feat due to his defenses not being ranked so average-or-worse (5th, 13th, 6th and 11th) every year, but it doesn't mean he hasn't led or carried the team to wins. There is a reason why Dak has led the team to 8 comeback wins and 14 game-winning drives in only his 4 years in the league and is on pace to break Romo's franchise career record leading stats for both categories (24 comebacks and 29 game-winning drives all accomplished during 13 seasons as a Cowboy).

As for Troy only having 11 career wins with a defense ranked 16th or worse during his 12 year career as a Cowboy is because he was blessed to be surrounded with so much talent throughout his career, hence the 3 SB wins. Interesting since Troy only accomplished 15 comebacks and 20 game-winning drives throughout his 12 year career which included 16 playoff games (unlike Romo who had 6 playoff games (with only 1 win) and Dak so far with 1 playoff win in 3 playoff games). One can argue that being surrounded by such high talent for so many years (12) helped Troy accumulate so many career wins, yet Troy never passed for 3,500 yards or more than 23 TDs in a season while finishing with a completions average of 61.5 %, numbers much lesser than Romo (65.3 career completions %) or Dak (65.8 career completions % so far). So much for the Mr. "You either have accuracy or you don't as a pro" QB talker. One would think Troy's career completions % average would have been higher due to being surrounded with so much talent? Oh well...

This also explains why Romo ranks third in "same franchise" quarterback wins in Cowboys history with 78, trailing Troy Aikman (94) and Roger Staubach (85). One would have thought Romo would have been the leader in franchise career wins since he played for more years (13) than Troy (12) and Staubach (11) ever did, considering Romo pretty much owns just about every other franchise QB leading stat. Proves that any QB who plays for the Cowboys needs to be surrounded with very good talent every year to have the opportunity to win so many games. No QB can do it all by himself.