Interesting Romo stat I ran across

[jterrell]

On BBI they have a thread for wins by a QB with a defense that was 16th or worse in points allowed from 1970 to 2016. It was from Reddit.

Romo has 42 such wins putting him 8th on the list.

The seven QBs ahead of him played more games and had more opportunities for wins, but it still is very impressive.

The best part is looking further down the list. Joe Montana had only 5 such games. Troy Aikman and Roethlisberger 11, Steve Young 16, and the GOAT Tom Brady 20.

There's others on the list, but you can clearly see who played with good defenses and who didn't.

Peyton Manning had the most, 102 wins of this kind. When looking at best ever, this would be a great stat for Peyton.

Eli Manning was third with 73 wins and the reason the thread was started.

P.S. since 2016 the Dallas defense has been better than 16th in points allowed every year(5th, 13th, 6th and 11th), so if you're interested, Prescott has no such wins.

This doesn't necessarily equate to good.
It equates to teams who play high scoring games.
QBs who toss INTs but make up for them with TD passes.
Gunslingers.

A good QB generally helps his defense rank higher in points allowed.
He flips field position and limits mistakes that provide instant scoring opps.
He moves chains and controls the clock.

 

[Ranched]

On BBI they have a thread for wins by a QB with a defense that was 16th or worse in points allowed from 1970 to 2016.

Romo was an amazing undrafted Quarterback. He had the gift. Unfortunately, it was wasted with poor coaching.

 

[Flamma]

It's too bad our elite-looking offense was falling apart at the same time. Owens was pretty much a decoy because of injury. Glenn was attempting to come back from being out all season. And that left Patrick Crayton to essentially be our No. 1 receiver. We tried to rely on the running game, but the Giants figured out how to stop it in the second half and also used quickness to beat our powerful offensive line and get pressure on Romo.

Crayton lost that game. If I were a conspiracy theorist I'd swear he was being paid by the other team.

 

[Aviano90]

It's too bad our elite-looking offense was falling apart at the same time. Owens was pretty much a decoy because of injury. Glenn was attempting to come back from being out all season. And that left Patrick Crayton to essentially be our No. 1 receiver. We tried to rely on the running game, but the Giants figured out how to stop it in the second half and also used quickness to beat our powerful offensive line and get pressure on Romo.

TO was fine that game. As a matter of fact, he was open deep twice in the 4th quarter and Romo under threw the ball both times. He was also wide open in the red zone on 3rd down in the 3rd quarter. Romo side armed the ball and missed badly and we had to settle for a FG. A good throw there and we score a TD and possibly win late in 4th with a FG instead of throwing an interception on 4th down. The Giants secondary was decimated with injuries and only got worse when Aaron Ross was hurt during the game.

These are things you don’t hear about in order to try and shield Romo from any blame for that game. Yes, other things occurred so the plays I listed above were not the only reasons we lost but it has been 13 years of blaming Crayton for a loss because he dropped a pass in the 3rd quarter and there was some mix up between him and Romo in the 4th quarter on the final drive.

 

[jnday]

No one should be surprised Romo led the team to so many wins (42) due to playing beside such an average-or-worse defense (16th ranked-or-worse). Romo was very talented and the owner of most Cowboys franchise QB passing records for that reason. Of course, Dak would have no (0) wins to such a feat due to his defenses not being ranked so average-or-worse (5th, 13th, 6th and 11th) every year, but it doesn't mean he hasn't led or carried the team to wins. There is a reason why Dak has led the team to 8 comeback wins and 14 game-winning drives in only his 4 years in the league and is on pace to break Romo's franchise career record leading stats for both categories (24 comebacks and 29 game-winning drives all accomplished during 13 seasons as a Cowboy).

As for Troy only having 11 career wins with a defense ranked 16th or worse during his 12 year career as a Cowboy is because he was blessed to be surrounded with so much talent throughout his career, hence the 3 SB wins. Interesting since Troy only accomplished 15 comebacks and 20 game-winning drives throughout his 12 year career which included 16 playoff games (unlike Romo who had 6 playoff games (with only 1 win) and Dak so far with 1 playoff win in 3 playoff games). One can argue that being surrounded by such high talent for so many years (12) helped Troy accumulate so many career wins, yet Troy never passed for 3,500 yards or more than 23 TDs in a season while finishing with a completions average of 61.5 %, numbers much lesser than Romo (65.3 career completions %) or Dak (65.8 career completions % so far). So much for the Mr. "You either have accuracy or you don't as a pro" QB talker. One would think Troy's career completions % average would have been higher due to being surrounded with so much talent? Oh well...

This also explains why Romo ranks third in "same franchise" quarterback wins in Cowboys history with 78, trailing Troy Aikman (94) and Roger Staubach (85). One would have thought Romo would have been the leader in franchise career wins since he played for more years (13) than Troy (12) and Staubach (11) ever did, considering Romo pretty much owns just about every other franchise QB leading stat. Proves that any QB who plays for the Cowboys needs to be surrounded with very good talent every year to have the opportunity to win so many games. No QB can do it all by himself.

Are you really overlooking the three years Romo was on the bench or the years that injuries prevented him from playing?

 

[America's Cowboy]

Are you really overlooking the three years Romo was on the bench or the years that injuries prevented him from playing?

Not at all. Why wouldn't you want to take that into account?

 

[DFWJC]

More importantly and controlable, the play before that.
Throws the game-winner that would eliminate the eventual Super Bowl champs...
but no dice.

 

[Qcard]

That was my point.
He literally threw the should've been game winner the play before.
Perfect pass to the end zone for the winner, but Crayton pulled up.
Then with no timeouts, 4th down, and time up, he had to force it into the end zone for that play that You choose to remember.


Same goes for the non QB, special teams blunder in 2006.
Not even a QB play...which was the discussion.

it was horrible pass decision (pretty pass) to 5-11 Terry Glenn in the End Zone. If RW McQuarters doesn't pick it...then safety whom Tony didn't even see coming from the left either hash picks it or destroys Terry Glenn on a catch.

The best option was TO underneath going into the End Zone. The End Zone pass was a given because of time but like with 3 out of the 5 biggest plays in Tony's career he made the wrong decision...and this decision gave Eli Manning, Tony Romo's Ring

 

[DFWJC]

it was horrible pass decision (pretty pass) to 5-11 Terry Glenn in the End Zone. If RW McQuarters doesn't pick it...then safety whom Tony didn't even see coming from the left either hash picks it or destroys Terry Glenn on a catch.

The best option was TO underneath going into the End Zone. The End Zone pass was a given because of time but like with 3 out of the 5 biggest plays in Tony's career he made the wrong decision...and this decision gave Eli Manning, Tony Romo's Ring

You're missing the point entirely. Did you even see the play before that?
It doesn't matter.
This meaningless squabbling with those who always highlight the very worst--and exaggerate it at that---seems so silly on a night like this.

 

[CowboyRoy]

How many of those wins were against teams with a winning record? That is a big stat around here recently.

In previous years, because the Cowboys were 13-3, 9-7, 10-6, wins were a team thing and didn't matter. Its was stats that mattered and Dak's stats were just average. Now that the Cowboys are 8-8 and Dak lead the NFL in passing, wins are a QB stat and stats don't matter. LOL

The 180 laughable ramblings of the Dak hating trolls. Easily disregarded and disproved.