Why WR at 17 is a no go with Dane Brugler mock

I'm admittedly not sure why this has gained steam as a concept.

DAL is a team with like 5/6 questionable 'starting' spots. (OC, SS, DT3, RDE, CB1/2, TE. Of those, WR3 plays the least snaps.

And WR3 was manned by a top 5 WR3 last year. Cobb produced significantly but this team didn't feel it was worth 9m a year. (Smartly, imho). So it now worth pick 17? Your only pick in the top 50 and hopefully your only top 20 pick in the next 2-3 seasons???
Naw fam.

But 17 looks like BPA may be a WR?? It does. So does rounds 2-5 FWIW.
Teams generally don't grade dudes 1-125. DAL has graded them in areas. Elite, R1, R1/R2, R2, R2/3 et al.
Then you can play with them in an are to get to a specific number. I.E. this player was out 5th ranked player....
But if he wasn't elite... and 4 were. And 15 guys were R1... he is essentially just the same as 5-19. Splitting hairs area.


But when pick 51 comes around you may only have 1 or 2 R2 rated guys left. (The team seldom has even 20 guys rated R1 and def seldom had 50+ rated R2 or higher. So now you have say RB rated R1, a WR rated R1 and a DT rated R2/R3 to choose from. RB isn't a realistic option. Not just because of Zeke but Pollard and your positional value here is simply low. So that kinda leaves a WR(say maybe local kids Jaylon Reagor or Denzel Mims) or a DT like also local kid Justin Madubuike. Round 2 is now a really tough call.

Now let's talk Dane Brugler. (BUY HIS GUIDE!!)
He is essentially the best guy doing this stuff now.
Far better than the Espy guys who have mailed it in for years now.

His WR rankings have 4 legit R1 guys.
2 more R1/R2
5 more R2

He has TWENTY-SIX players rated through R4/R5.
That's A LOT.

Compare.

RB: 13
DL: 15
OL: 15 OT, 6 OG, 5 OC so same 26 TOTAL OL as just WR.
S: 11 but none R1 or even R1/R2.

19 CB suggest it is also a deep group.

So what does Dane project DAL to do in his Mar 4 three round mock?

17. Dallas Cowboys – C.J. Henderson, CB, Florida (rated his CB2)
51. Dallas Cowboys – Justin Madubuike, DT, Texas A&M (rated his DL2)
82. Dallas Cowboys – Malik Harrison, LB, Ohio State (rated his LB8)
(Dane knows DAL FO guys and you can see that reflected in his mock. Heavy big school powerhouse choices here; Defensive rebuild focus)

What about WR?
Available at 17.
21 Pit of Despair - Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State
22. Buffalo Bills – Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU

Available at 51.
60. Baltimore Ravens – Laviska Shenault, WR, Colorado --Dallas kid BTW.
62. Green Bay Packers – Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame
64. Seattle Seahawks – KJ Hamler, WR, Penn State

Available at 82.
88. New Orleans Saints – Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR, Liberty
89. Minnesota Vikings – Gabriel Davis, WR, UCF
90. Cleveland Browns (via HOU) – Bryan Edwards, WR, South Carolina

So you enter Round 4 now
drafted CB2, DL2, LB8....
and with THIRTEEN more WRs rated at least R4/R5.
R4 options include UT's combo of Collin Johnson and Devin Duvernay, Dallas and SMU WR James Proche, and Boise State Wr John Hightower who has eerily Gallup-like numbers.
And 9 other guys who'd be a decent or better value.

There is zero reason to overdraft a WR this year.
You have a 20M WR1, a big play monster at WR2 and plenty of ST/depth WR.
A R4 or R5 WR could come in and lead that group of back ups with starting upside.

None of that draft depth even touches on the fact WR is the only position where talent like Dez Bryant and Antonio Brown sits unsigned.

jterrell said:

I'm admittedly not sure why this has gained steam as a concept.

DAL is a team with like 5/6 questionable 'starting' spots. (OC, SS, DT3, RDE, CB1/2, TE. Of those, WR3 plays the least snaps.

And WR3 was manned by a top 5 WR3 last year. Cobb produced significantly but this team didn't feel it was worth 9m a year. (Smartly, imho). So it now worth pick 17? Your only pick in the top 50 and hopefully your only top 20 pick in the next 2-3 seasons???
Naw fam.

But 17 looks like BPA may be a WR?? It does. So does rounds 2-5 FWIW.
Teams generally don't grade dudes 1-125. DAL has graded them in areas. Elite, R1, R1/R2, R2, R2/3 et al.
Then you can play with them in an are to get to a specific number. I.E. this player was out 5th ranked player....
But if he wasn't elite... and 4 were. And 15 guys were R1... he is essentially just the same as 5-19. Splitting hairs area.


But when pick 51 comes around you may only have 1 or 2 R2 rated guys left. (The team seldom has even 20 guys rated R1 and def seldom had 50+ rated R2 or higher. So now you have say RB rated R1, a WR rated R1 and a DT rated R2/R3 to choose from. RB isn't a realistic option. Not just because of Zeke but Pollard and your positional value here is simply low. So that kinda leaves a WR(say maybe local kids Jaylon Reagor or Denzel Mims) or a DT like also local kid Justin Madubuike. Round 2 is now a really tough call.

Now let's talk Dane Brugler. (BUY HIS GUIDE!!)
He is essentially the best guy doing this stuff now.
Far better than the Espy guys who have mailed it in for years now.

His WR rankings have 4 legit R1 guys.
2 more R1/R2
5 more R2

He has TWENTY-SIX players rated through R4/R5.
That's A LOT.

Compare.

RB: 13
DL: 15
OL: 15 OT, 6 OG, 5 OC so same 26 TOTAL OL as just WR.
S: 11 but none R1 or even R1/R2.

19 CB suggest it is also a deep group.

So what does Dane project DAL to do in his Mar 4 three round mock?

17. Dallas Cowboys – C.J. Henderson, CB, Florida (rated his CB2)
51. Dallas Cowboys – Justin Madubuike, DT, Texas A&M (rated his DL2)
82. Dallas Cowboys – Malik Harrison, LB, Ohio State (rated his LB8)
(Dane knows DAL FO guys and you can see that reflected in his mock. Heavy big school powerhouse choices here; Defensive rebuild focus)

What about WR?
Available at 17.
21 Pit of Despair - Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State
22. Buffalo Bills – Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU

Available at 51.
60. Baltimore Ravens – Laviska Shenault, WR, Colorado --Dallas kid BTW.
62. Green Bay Packers – Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame
64. Seattle Seahawks – KJ Hamler, WR, Penn State

Available at 82.
88. New Orleans Saints – Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR, Liberty
89. Minnesota Vikings – Gabriel Davis, WR, UCF
90. Cleveland Browns (via HOU) – Bryan Edwards, WR, South Carolina

So you enter Round 4 now
drafted CB2, DL2, LB8....
and with THIRTEEN more WRs rated at least R4/R5.
R4 options include UT's combo of Collin Johnson and Devin Duvernay, Dallas and SMU WR James Proche, and Boise State Wr John Hightower who has eerily Gallup-like numbers.
And 9 other guys who'd be a decent or better value.

There is zero reason to overdraft a WR this year.
You have a 20M WR1, a big play monster at WR2 and plenty of ST/depth WR.
A R4 or R5 WR could come in and lead that group of back ups with starting upside.

None of that draft depth even touches on the fact WR is the only position where talent like Dez Bryant and Antonio Brown sits unsigned.

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The simple fact, is that in most years from the middle to the end of the first round, the most highly rated prospects left are going to be RB's and WR's. Due to the simple fact that people don't value them as much. So what are we going to do take one with our first pick EVERY year? Nonsense.

And in a draft like this where WR is not only high end, but deep in talent, it makes it even more ridiculous to use a first pick on a WR. You can get one in the 2nd to 4th round and a good one. And like you said......our top two WR slots are wrapped up for the next 3-5 years.

jterrell said:

I'm admittedly not sure why this has gained steam as a concept.

DAL is a team with like 5/6 questionable 'starting' spots. (OC, SS, DT3, RDE, CB1/2, TE. Of those, WR3 plays the least snaps.

And WR3 was manned by a top 5 WR3 last year. Cobb produced significantly but this team didn't feel it was worth 9m a year. (Smartly, imho). So it now worth pick 17? Your only pick in the top 50 and hopefully your only top 20 pick in the next 2-3 seasons???
Naw fam.

But 17 looks like BPA may be a WR?? It does. So does rounds 2-5 FWIW.
Teams generally don't grade dudes 1-125. DAL has graded them in areas. Elite, R1, R1/R2, R2, R2/3 et al.
Then you can play with them in an are to get to a specific number. I.E. this player was out 5th ranked player....
But if he wasn't elite... and 4 were. And 15 guys were R1... he is essentially just the same as 5-19. Splitting hairs area.


But when pick 51 comes around you may only have 1 or 2 R2 rated guys left. (The team seldom has even 20 guys rated R1 and def seldom had 50+ rated R2 or higher. So now you have say RB rated R1, a WR rated R1 and a DT rated R2/R3 to choose from. RB isn't a realistic option. Not just because of Zeke but Pollard and your positional value here is simply low. So that kinda leaves a WR(say maybe local kids Jaylon Reagor or Denzel Mims) or a DT like also local kid Justin Madubuike. Round 2 is now a really tough call.

Now let's talk Dane Brugler. (BUY HIS GUIDE!!)
He is essentially the best guy doing this stuff now.
Far better than the Espy guys who have mailed it in for years now.

His WR rankings have 4 legit R1 guys.
2 more R1/R2
5 more R2

He has TWENTY-SIX players rated through R4/R5.
That's A LOT.

Compare.

RB: 13
DL: 15
OL: 15 OT, 6 OG, 5 OC so same 26 TOTAL OL as just WR.
S: 11 but none R1 or even R1/R2.

19 CB suggest it is also a deep group.

So what does Dane project DAL to do in his Mar 4 three round mock?

17. Dallas Cowboys – C.J. Henderson, CB, Florida (rated his CB2)
51. Dallas Cowboys – Justin Madubuike, DT, Texas A&M (rated his DL2)
82. Dallas Cowboys – Malik Harrison, LB, Ohio State (rated his LB8)
(Dane knows DAL FO guys and you can see that reflected in his mock. Heavy big school powerhouse choices here; Defensive rebuild focus)

What about WR?
Available at 17.
21 Pit of Despair - Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State
22. Buffalo Bills – Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU

Available at 51.
60. Baltimore Ravens – Laviska Shenault, WR, Colorado --Dallas kid BTW.
62. Green Bay Packers – Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame
64. Seattle Seahawks – KJ Hamler, WR, Penn State

Available at 82.
88. New Orleans Saints – Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR, Liberty
89. Minnesota Vikings – Gabriel Davis, WR, UCF
90. Cleveland Browns (via HOU) – Bryan Edwards, WR, South Carolina

So you enter Round 4 now
drafted CB2, DL2, LB8....
and with THIRTEEN more WRs rated at least R4/R5.
R4 options include UT's combo of Collin Johnson and Devin Duvernay, Dallas and SMU WR James Proche, and Boise State Wr John Hightower who has eerily Gallup-like numbers.
And 9 other guys who'd be a decent or better value.

There is zero reason to overdraft a WR this year.
You have a 20M WR1, a big play monster at WR2 and plenty of ST/depth WR.
A R4 or R5 WR could come in and lead that group of back ups with starting upside.

None of that draft depth even touches on the fact WR is the only position where talent like Dez Bryant and Antonio Brown sits unsigned.

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Devin Duvernay in the 4th round would be a steal and I would be very happy

Seems crazy people want to go WR in the 1st round. For one, we’re replacing an old Randall Cobb. Also, we traded a 1st for Amari and just made him the highest paid WR. Not to mention, we drafted Gallup and Pollard in recent years and we should expect them to see more action. Meanwhile, we lost our top CB and haven’t had a legitimate safety in three decades.

jterrell said:

I'm admittedly not sure why this has gained steam as a concept.

DAL is a team with like 5/6 questionable 'starting' spots. (OC, SS, DT3, RDE, CB1/2, TE. Of those, WR3 plays the least snaps.

And WR3 was manned by a top 5 WR3 last year. Cobb produced significantly but this team didn't feel it was worth 9m a year. (Smartly, imho). So it now worth pick 17? Your only pick in the top 50 and hopefully your only top 20 pick in the next 2-3 seasons???
Naw fam.

But 17 looks like BPA may be a WR?? It does. So does rounds 2-5 FWIW.
Teams generally don't grade dudes 1-125. DAL has graded them in areas. Elite, R1, R1/R2, R2, R2/3 et al.
Then you can play with them in an are to get to a specific number. I.E. this player was out 5th ranked player....
But if he wasn't elite... and 4 were. And 15 guys were R1... he is essentially just the same as 5-19. Splitting hairs area.


But when pick 51 comes around you may only have 1 or 2 R2 rated guys left. (The team seldom has even 20 guys rated R1 and def seldom had 50+ rated R2 or higher. So now you have say RB rated R1, a WR rated R1 and a DT rated R2/R3 to choose from. RB isn't a realistic option. Not just because of Zeke but Pollard and your positional value here is simply low. So that kinda leaves a WR(say maybe local kids Jaylon Reagor or Denzel Mims) or a DT like also local kid Justin Madubuike. Round 2 is now a really tough call.

Now let's talk Dane Brugler. (BUY HIS GUIDE!!)
He is essentially the best guy doing this stuff now.
Far better than the Espy guys who have mailed it in for years now.

His WR rankings have 4 legit R1 guys.
2 more R1/R2
5 more R2

He has TWENTY-SIX players rated through R4/R5.
That's A LOT.

Compare.

RB: 13
DL: 15
OL: 15 OT, 6 OG, 5 OC so same 26 TOTAL OL as just WR.
S: 11 but none R1 or even R1/R2.

19 CB suggest it is also a deep group.

So what does Dane project DAL to do in his Mar 4 three round mock?

17. Dallas Cowboys – C.J. Henderson, CB, Florida (rated his CB2)
51. Dallas Cowboys – Justin Madubuike, DT, Texas A&M (rated his DL2)
82. Dallas Cowboys – Malik Harrison, LB, Ohio State (rated his LB8)
(Dane knows DAL FO guys and you can see that reflected in his mock. Heavy big school powerhouse choices here; Defensive rebuild focus)

What about WR?
Available at 17.
21 Pit of Despair - Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State
22. Buffalo Bills – Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU

Available at 51.
60. Baltimore Ravens – Laviska Shenault, WR, Colorado --Dallas kid BTW.
62. Green Bay Packers – Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame
64. Seattle Seahawks – KJ Hamler, WR, Penn State

Available at 82.
88. New Orleans Saints – Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR, Liberty
89. Minnesota Vikings – Gabriel Davis, WR, UCF
90. Cleveland Browns (via HOU) – Bryan Edwards, WR, South Carolina

So you enter Round 4 now
drafted CB2, DL2, LB8....
and with THIRTEEN more WRs rated at least R4/R5.
R4 options include UT's combo of Collin Johnson and Devin Duvernay, Dallas and SMU WR James Proche, and Boise State Wr John Hightower who has eerily Gallup-like numbers.
And 9 other guys who'd be a decent or better value.

There is zero reason to overdraft a WR this year.
You have a 20M WR1, a big play monster at WR2 and plenty of ST/depth WR.
A R4 or R5 WR could come in and lead that group of back ups with starting upside.

None of that draft depth even touches on the fact WR is the only position where talent like Dez Bryant and Antonio Brown sits unsigned.

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I am not sure what you are trying to prove here. Are you saying Dallas won't take a WR at 17 regardless of who is there or that they won't take a WR at 17 because there won't be one worthy of the pick because the better ones will be off the board by then?

Dane the best in the game. Thanks for sharing

If the first pick is not defense I will find a new level of self isolating to go into for the foreseeable future.

Since we are using Danes draft guide as an example...select a defensive player on his board that is rated 17th or lower...

Good luck

JoeyBoy718 said:

Seems crazy people want to go WR in the 1st round. For one, we’re replacing an old Randall Cobb. Also, we traded a 1st for Amari and just made him the highest paid WR. Not to mention, we drafted Gallup and Pollard in recent years and we should expect them to see more action. Meanwhile, we lost our top CB and haven’t had a legitimate safety in three decades.

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A few reasons.

1) I don't think there are many Cowboys fans that WANT to go WR in the first round. I think a majority of those people are saying they don't have a problem with a WR at 17 if the board falls a certain way. In other words, WR is still enough of a need that if the defensive side of the ball draft board is crushed by 17 and one of the three top WRs are still on the board, you take the WR. In other words, if your choice is say Jeudy at 17 or Gross-Matos, I am taking Jeudy every single time.

2) People need to stop trying to use Pollard as a reason not to have a good slot WR. Pollard can play some slot but in a league where teams are now using 3 WR sets a lot, you aren't going to run Pollard out there as the slot every time you need a 3rd WR. He's a hybrid TB that you can use out of the backfield and sometimes in the slot.

3) Two years down the road we are going to have an interesting situation at WR. We'll be able to move on from Cooper if we want with little pain BUT we will also likely be facing the prospect of having to hand Gallup a pretty sizable contract if he continues to improve and play really well. Having a 3rd, really good WR, allows some flexibility for the Cowboys to be able to potentially trim one of the other WRs to save some cap space.

If Coop or Gallup goes out for the year, who steps up next? I am down for another receiver even in round 4.

To flesh out Dane's draft with my own completion.
Round 4, Pick 123 -- KJ Hill WR. Ohio State.
Hill started in the slot and ended up the career receptions leader at OSU.
Very ordinary athleticism by OSU standards but a mature player with great hands and excellent quickness inside.
Dane "Overall, Hill possesses only average size, strength and long speed, but he has terrific ball skills and consistently makes himself available to his quarterback, projecting as a possession slot option in the NFL."

Round 5, Pick 167 -- JR Reed, Safety, Georgia.
Reed falls because he is an older prospect having both transferred and gray shirted.
NFL legacy whose Dad played with Moss and Carter in that WR crazy Vikes program.
He is also from Ft. Worth and played his HS ball at Prestonwood a few minutes away from where The Star is now.
Dane's take: Overall, Reed has the closing speed, smarts and professional makeup that will intrigue NFL teams, but he is an over-aged prospect with poor length and play strength, projecting as a possible backup.

Round 5, Pick 179 -- DALTON KEENE TE Virginia Tech
Keene is an actual H-Back and had all of 1 career drop. 4.71 40 time is legit and he is a willing if not plus blocker. At 6'4" and 250 is the new prototype imho.
Dane's take: Overall, Keene doesn’t have a difference-making trait, but his athletic ability, competitive nature and roster flexibility are appealing traits, projecting as a versatile H-Back option.

Round 7, Pick 231 -- DeeJay Dallas
Dallas is a WR convert who at 5'10" 217 is built like a RB. He is an excellent blocker who has some similarities with Pollard.
Was a team captain who was not overworked in college with best days ahead of him in pros. Has ability to help on special teams with good power and good hands.

If we pick 3 defensive players with the 1st 3 picks I will go from 6 to midnight.

Sydla said:

A few reasons.

1) I don't think there are many Cowboys fans that WANT to go WR in the first round. I think a majority of those people are saying they don't have a problem with a WR at 17 if the board falls a certain way. In other words, WR is still enough of a need that if the defensive side of the ball draft board is crushed by 17 and one of the three top WRs are still on the board, you take the WR. In other words, if your choice is say Jeudy at 17 or Gross-Matos, I am taking Jeudy every single time.

2) People need to stop trying to use Pollard as a reason not to have a good slot WR. Pollard can play some slot but in a league where teams are now using 3 WR sets a lot, you aren't going to run Pollard out there as the slot every time you need a 3rd WR. He's a hybrid TB that you can use out of the backfield and sometimes in the slot.

3) Two years down the road we are going to have an interesting situation at WR. We'll be able to move on from Cooper if we want with little pain BUT we will also likely be facing the prospect of having to hand Gallup a pretty sizable contract if he continues to improve and play really well. Having a 3rd, really good WR, allows some flexibility for the Cowboys to be able to potentially trim one of the other WRs to save some cap space.

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Somebody figured it out relatively easily

jterrell said:

I'm admittedly not sure why this has gained steam as a concept.

DAL is a team with like 5/6 questionable 'starting' spots. (OC, SS, DT3, RDE, CB1/2, TE. Of those, WR3 plays the least snaps.

And WR3 was manned by a top 5 WR3 last year. Cobb produced significantly but this team didn't feel it was worth 9m a year. (Smartly, imho). So it now worth pick 17? Your only pick in the top 50 and hopefully your only top 20 pick in the next 2-3 seasons???
Naw fam.

But 17 looks like BPA may be a WR?? It does. So does rounds 2-5 FWIW.
Teams generally don't grade dudes 1-125. DAL has graded them in areas. Elite, R1, R1/R2, R2, R2/3 et al.
Then you can play with them in an are to get to a specific number. I.E. this player was out 5th ranked player....
But if he wasn't elite... and 4 were. And 15 guys were R1... he is essentially just the same as 5-19. Splitting hairs area.


But when pick 51 comes around you may only have 1 or 2 R2 rated guys left. (The team seldom has even 20 guys rated R1 and def seldom had 50+ rated R2 or higher. So now you have say RB rated R1, a WR rated R1 and a DT rated R2/R3 to choose from. RB isn't a realistic option. Not just because of Zeke but Pollard and your positional value here is simply low. So that kinda leaves a WR(say maybe local kids Jaylon Reagor or Denzel Mims) or a DT like also local kid Justin Madubuike. Round 2 is now a really tough call.

Now let's talk Dane Brugler. (BUY HIS GUIDE!!)
He is essentially the best guy doing this stuff now.
Far better than the Espy guys who have mailed it in for years now.

His WR rankings have 4 legit R1 guys.
2 more R1/R2
5 more R2

He has TWENTY-SIX players rated through R4/R5.
That's A LOT.

Compare.

RB: 13
DL: 15
OL: 15 OT, 6 OG, 5 OC so same 26 TOTAL OL as just WR.
S: 11 but none R1 or even R1/R2.

19 CB suggest it is also a deep group.

So what does Dane project DAL to do in his Mar 4 three round mock?

17. Dallas Cowboys – C.J. Henderson, CB, Florida (rated his CB2)
51. Dallas Cowboys – Justin Madubuike, DT, Texas A&M (rated his DL2)
82. Dallas Cowboys – Malik Harrison, LB, Ohio State (rated his LB8)
(Dane knows DAL FO guys and you can see that reflected in his mock. Heavy big school powerhouse choices here; Defensive rebuild focus)

What about WR?
Available at 17.
21 Pit of Despair - Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State
22. Buffalo Bills – Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU

Available at 51.
60. Baltimore Ravens – Laviska Shenault, WR, Colorado --Dallas kid BTW.
62. Green Bay Packers – Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame
64. Seattle Seahawks – KJ Hamler, WR, Penn State

Available at 82.
88. New Orleans Saints – Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR, Liberty
89. Minnesota Vikings – Gabriel Davis, WR, UCF
90. Cleveland Browns (via HOU) – Bryan Edwards, WR, South Carolina

So you enter Round 4 now
drafted CB2, DL2, LB8....
and with THIRTEEN more WRs rated at least R4/R5.
R4 options include UT's combo of Collin Johnson and Devin Duvernay, Dallas and SMU WR James Proche, and Boise State Wr John Hightower who has eerily Gallup-like numbers.
And 9 other guys who'd be a decent or better value.

There is zero reason to overdraft a WR this year.
You have a 20M WR1, a big play monster at WR2 and plenty of ST/depth WR.
A R4 or R5 WR could come in and lead that group of back ups with starting upside.

None of that draft depth even touches on the fact WR is the only position where talent like Dez Bryant and Antonio Brown sits unsigned.

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Great post! Love how you broke it down and actually made it more rational to not take a WR in the earlier rounds.

BigD_95 said:

Devin Duvernay in the 4th round would be a steal and I would be very happy

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Agree and I feel the same about Lynn Bowden from Kentucky

I've been looking at Brugler's guide this morning, I did the same thing and jump to his top 100 list.

I agree on WR, Dallas has their own rankings and Brugler lists these players this way -

12. HENRY RUGGS WR3 Alabama
13. CJ HENDERSON CB2 Florida
14. K’LAVON CHAISSON EDGE2 LSU
15. ANDREW THOMAS OT4 Georgia
16. JAVON KINLAW DT2 South Carolina


I would much rather take Henderson (if the scouts approve) to fill the last obvious hole in the lineup than take a WR behind Amari and Gallup. BPA isn't an absolute and most of these rankings have big plateaus like this where the group above all have very similar rankings.

Cowboysheelsreds053 said:

If Coop or Gallup goes out for the year, who steps up next? I am down for another receiver even in round 4.

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Right now you'd be looking at Cedrick Wilson, Devin Smith, Ventrell Bryant and other depth options plus a draftee like KJ Hill.

Also still have street FA options like Dez and Tavon Austin out there.

Feel a lot better there than say DE if DLaw goes out or QB if Dak does.
What about CB if Chido is out?
Or LB if LVE's neck is bad again?

DAL needs depth badly in many areas; few of which they could cover by simply running the ball more.

Kaiser said:

I've been looking at Brugler's guide this morning, I did the same thing and jump to his top 100 list.

I agree on WR, Dallas has their own rankings and Brugler lists these players this way -

12. HENRY RUGGS WR3 Alabama
13. CJ HENDERSON CB2 Florida
14. K’LAVON CHAISSON EDGE2 LSU
15. ANDREW THOMAS OT4 Georgia
16. JAVON KINLAW DT2 South Carolina


I would much rather take Henderson (if the scouts approve) to fill the last obvious hole in the lineup than take a WR behind Amari and Gallup. BPA isn't an absolute and most of these rankings have big plateaus like this where the group above all have very similar rankings.

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yup.

My DALLAS ranking of those guys would be:
Kinlaw
Henderson
Chaisson
Thomas
then
Ruggs

Again how good has ATL been since they stole Calvin Ridley in round late 1??

jterrell said:

gain how good has ATL been since they stole Calvin Ridley in round late 1??

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And Ridley was as finished a product as you can get out of the college ranks.

I'm trying not to do it but I'm basically going to be this guy thinking about Kinlaw the week of the draft:

jterrell said:

I'm admittedly not sure why this has gained steam as a concept.

DAL is a team with like 5/6 questionable 'starting' spots. (OC, SS, DT3, RDE, CB1/2, TE. Of those, WR3 plays the least snaps.

And WR3 was manned by a top 5 WR3 last year. Cobb produced significantly but this team didn't feel it was worth 9m a year. (Smartly, imho). So it now worth pick 17? Your only pick in the top 50 and hopefully your only top 20 pick in the next 2-3 seasons???
Naw fam.

But 17 looks like BPA may be a WR?? It does. So does rounds 2-5 FWIW.
Teams generally don't grade dudes 1-125. DAL has graded them in areas. Elite, R1, R1/R2, R2, R2/3 et al.
Then you can play with them in an are to get to a specific number. I.E. this player was out 5th ranked player....
But if he wasn't elite... and 4 were. And 15 guys were R1... he is essentially just the same as 5-19. Splitting hairs area.


But when pick 51 comes around you may only have 1 or 2 R2 rated guys left. (The team seldom has even 20 guys rated R1 and def seldom had 50+ rated R2 or higher. So now you have say RB rated R1, a WR rated R1 and a DT rated R2/R3 to choose from. RB isn't a realistic option. Not just because of Zeke but Pollard and your positional value here is simply low. So that kinda leaves a WR(say maybe local kids Jaylon Reagor or Denzel Mims) or a DT like also local kid Justin Madubuike. Round 2 is now a really tough call.

Now let's talk Dane Brugler. (BUY HIS GUIDE!!)
He is essentially the best guy doing this stuff now.
Far better than the Espy guys who have mailed it in for years now.

His WR rankings have 4 legit R1 guys.
2 more R1/R2
5 more R2

He has TWENTY-SIX players rated through R4/R5.
That's A LOT.

Compare.

RB: 13
DL: 15
OL: 15 OT, 6 OG, 5 OC so same 26 TOTAL OL as just WR.
S: 11 but none R1 or even R1/R2.

19 CB suggest it is also a deep group.

So what does Dane project DAL to do in his Mar 4 three round mock?

17. Dallas Cowboys – C.J. Henderson, CB, Florida (rated his CB2)
51. Dallas Cowboys – Justin Madubuike, DT, Texas A&M (rated his DL2)
82. Dallas Cowboys – Malik Harrison, LB, Ohio State (rated his LB8)
(Dane knows DAL FO guys and you can see that reflected in his mock. Heavy big school powerhouse choices here; Defensive rebuild focus)

What about WR?
Available at 17.
21 Pit of Despair - Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State
22. Buffalo Bills – Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU

Available at 51.
60. Baltimore Ravens – Laviska Shenault, WR, Colorado --Dallas kid BTW.
62. Green Bay Packers – Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame
64. Seattle Seahawks – KJ Hamler, WR, Penn State

Available at 82.
88. New Orleans Saints – Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR, Liberty
89. Minnesota Vikings – Gabriel Davis, WR, UCF
90. Cleveland Browns (via HOU) – Bryan Edwards, WR, South Carolina

So you enter Round 4 now
drafted CB2, DL2, LB8....
and with THIRTEEN more WRs rated at least R4/R5.
R4 options include UT's combo of Collin Johnson and Devin Duvernay, Dallas and SMU WR James Proche, and Boise State Wr John Hightower who has eerily Gallup-like numbers.
And 9 other guys who'd be a decent or better value.

There is zero reason to overdraft a WR this year.
You have a 20M WR1, a big play monster at WR2 and plenty of ST/depth WR.
A R4 or R5 WR could come in and lead that group of back ups with starting upside.

None of that draft depth even touches on the fact WR is the only position where talent like Dez Bryant and Antonio Brown sits unsigned.

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Its a very polarizing subject, its always the BPA argument, I lean that way esp with the first pick,, and I understand exactly where you are coming from,,,
We don't know,, maybe some of us have that gift,, lol,,, but if WM and staff evaluate a top WR1 status still there, and slight question marks elsewhere, Im some what inclined
to take whoever the player is on our board that is ranked highest,, nobody wants to talk about it but what if one of the top 3 OTs actually slipped a bit.
Im not opposed to any top end bet.