News: Projecting 2021 Comp Picks

J12B · Apr 30, 2020

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-compensatory-pick-projections-for-every-team

Dallas is projected to receive 4 comp picks.

1 3rd rounder (Jones)
1 4th rounder (Quinn)
1 5th rounder (Cobb)
1 6th rounder (Heath)

Hopefully Quinn results in a 3rd.

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jazzcat22 · Apr 30, 2020

Two other links that verify this. But has Heath as a 7th. Heath may get bumped off if incentives come into play. Just our luck.

https://overthecap.com/compensatory-draft-picks-cancellation-chart/

https://overthecap.com/draft/

817Gill · Apr 30, 2020

Wow, if Quin results in a 3rd and we have three picks there that would be crazy. We could move all around the draft board on Days 1&2. Lol this last draft was so good it makes me want to go again

408Cowboy · Apr 30, 2020

Heath finally did something good for the team.

Kaiser · Apr 30, 2020

J12B said:
Hopefully Quinn results in a 3rd.

What has to happen for the Quinn pick to move to a 3rd? TIA

TheMarathonContinues · Apr 30, 2020

You look at some of the teams getting compensatory picks and who's not....seems like a lot of bad teams aren't getting any.

ksg811 · Apr 30, 2020

Kaiser said:
What has to happen for the Quinn pick to move to a 3rd? TIA

Be All-pro while playing about 70% of the snaps or play 90% of defensive snaps. For reference, last year was the first time since 2014 he played even 60% of snaps.

lkelly · Apr 30, 2020

Signing a devalued QB to a 1 year cheap deal is a great strategic move. Even if he doesn't sign for Bridgewater money, you're still looking at a 4-6 round pick as a comp even if he doesn't get starter money with the new team. If you can do it after the draft (i.e. Cam/Winston) or if you can get a guy that was released (Dalton), even better because it doesn't impact your +/- for this season's tally.

As much as I detest Cam, signing him to a Winston sized deal would be a free draft pick next offseason. Well, possible a viable QB for this season depending on his health.

Oneiros · Apr 30, 2020

J12B said:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-compensatory-pick-projections-for-every-team

Dallas is projected to receive 4 comp picks.

1 3rd rounder (Jones)
1 4th rounder (Quinn)
1 5th rounder (Cobb)
1 6th rounder (Heath)

Hopefully Quinn results in a 3rd.

I'm still trying to figure out how on earth we only got a 4th rounder from Quinn.

J12B · Apr 30, 2020

Kaiser said:
What has to happen for the Quinn pick to move to a 3rd? TIA

Not 100% sure, but I believe it has to do with playing time and performance. That is factored into the comp pick formula.

jazzcat22 · Apr 30, 2020

Oneiros said:
I'm still trying to figure out how on earth we only got a 4th rounder from Quinn.

J12B said:
Not 100% sure, but I believe it has to do with playing time and performance. That is factored into the comp pick formula.

Mostly it is the value of the contract. Incentives and playing time does come into it as well. As it drives the contract value up or down.

I would not count on any of those to be a sure draft pick. As players get released or if injured, it will effect the final list.

Say Heath is released before game 10 of the season. He will not count. Doubt he is, but you never know. We did that with the WR a few years back to get the comp pick.

ksg811 · Apr 30, 2020

Oneiros said:
I'm still trying to figure out how on earth we only got a 4th rounder from Quinn.

Playing time. His contract alone puts him at the bottom end of 3rd round value. There are playing time points added (1 point per snap%, 25% minimum) that push others above him. Immediately behind him in AAV or several players who barring injury, will play a much higher percentage of snaps, pushing him down to the 4th.

SSoup · Apr 30, 2020

408Cowboy said:
Heath finally did something good for the team.

It was also good that one time when he stepped in as the emergency kicker and was functional enough to allow us to win. Granted, we won huge that day, so I'm not sure a kicker could be bad enough to wipe out that kind of victory margin -- short of, instead of kicking the ball, he just snatches it from the holder and turns around and chucks it back toward the other team's endzone.

But he was functional enough to not force us to ask the punter to do the job, which I know most people don't think is a big deal since they figure kicking is kicking is kicking, and the punter would be fine. But, I dunno, I don't think it's the same at all. And I don't like asking guys to perform jobs/tasks they don't typically do because I feel like you're just asking for a dumb injury (we all remember the time a kicker injured himself just jumping up and down to celebrate a kick). I often think about the time when Jose Canseco had to have season-ending elbow surgery because he hurt himself when his team let him pitch late in a meaningless July game.

TheMarathonContinues · Apr 30, 2020

So are these guesses based on how they think these guys will play this season as well as contract? Like Byron is expected to play a lot of snaps so they have him listed as a 3rd rounder?

Teague31 · Apr 30, 2020

You can only have a max of 4 comp picks so Heath doesn’t count

LandryFan · Apr 30, 2020

rocyaice said:
You look at some of the teams getting compensatory picks and who's not....seems like a lot of bad teams aren't getting any.

I'm guessing that bad teams, by their nature, have very few good/great players to lose in FA and on the flip side, they're more likely to sign bigger $$ FA's because of greater need for players. The players they lose (relatively few good players) are most often offset by the number of players they have to sign. That's my philosophy on it for what little it's worth.

TheMarathonContinues · Apr 30, 2020

LandryFan said:
I'm guessing that bad teams, by their nature, have very few good/great players to lose in FA and on the flip side, they're more likely to sign bigger $$ FA's because of greater need for players. The players they lose (relatively few good players) are most often offset by the number of players they have to sign. That's my philosophy on it for what little it's worth.

Probably some truth to this. Seems like some good teams are getting multiple picks though.

Kaiser · Apr 30, 2020

ksg811 said:
Playing time. His contract alone puts him at the bottom end of 3rd round value. There are playing time points added (1 point per snap%, 25% minimum) that push others above him. Immediately behind him in AAV or several players who barring injury, will play a much higher percentage of snaps, pushing him down to the 4th.

Go Bears!

J12B · Apr 30, 2020

rocyaice said:
So are these guesses based on how they think these guys will play this season as well as contract? Like Byron is expected to play a lot of snaps so they have him listed as a 3rd rounder?

I'm pretty sure the contract plays a significant part in determining comp picks and it is safe to say Jones will be a 3rd round comp pick.

Rivers, Brady and Bridgewater were the only other free agents that signed larger deals.

There were 10 3rd round comp picks for 2020.

Even if Byron gets injured, he still should be a 3rd round comp pick.

Wood · Apr 30, 2020

J12B said:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-compensatory-pick-projections-for-every-team

Dallas is projected to receive 4 comp picks.

1 3rd rounder (Jones)
1 4th rounder (Quinn)
1 5th rounder (Cobb)
1 6th rounder (Heath)

Hopefully Quinn results in a 3rd.

I have felt all along Quinn will result in 3rd. Two 3rds, 5th & 6th.

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