If released in theory. would Dak start elsewhere?

ABQCOWBOY · May 7, 2020

ondaedg said:
Ahh yes he is average because he had good players around him! That explains everything.
So based on your statement

Dan Marino was average because he had Clayton and Duper.

Montana was MEGA average because he had Clark, Rice, Craig, Solomon, Taylor, etc

Favre? Average! Sharpe, Jennings, Driver, Brooks, Chmura, Franks. Way too many good players.

Brady? Overrated! Needed Gronk, Randy Moss, Welker, Edelman, Branch, Troy Brown and some great Ds

Elway? Useless without Vance Johnson, Mark Jackson, Nattiel, Ed Mccaffrey, Rod Smith, Sharpe and Terrell Davis.

Peyton Manning? Practically handed superbowls because of Wayne, Harrison, Clark, Edgerrin, Stokley, Demaryius Thomas, Decker. Geesh didn't realize how much Peyton really sucked!

Aikman? Wow based on your logic that a qb cant be good if he has good players around him, Troy has to be considered sub average. Best OL in history, best RB in history, Novacek, Irvin, Johnston, Larry Allen, Stepnoski, Eric Wilkiams, etc etc.

This is getting boring so I'm stopping here.

Honest question. When you watch Dak play, do you see Marino or Montana or Favre or Elway or Peyton or Aikman?

Doomsday101 · May 7, 2020

ABQCOWBOY said:
Well, I would not say that Dak has no chance of being a starter elsewhere but, it kind of depends on how you context it. From strictly the stand point of talent and ability, I believe Dak could be a starter elsewhere. But if you view this holistically, it's certainly an interesting question and one that I do not believe you can just say, out of hand, that he would be a starting QB in the League.

His representation clearly wants the top contract in the entire league. Would other teams want to spend that much money for him? To even get him, a team would likely have to invest considerable draft capitol. Would teams be interested in giving up what it might take to get him? He has his strengths but he also has his weaknesses. Does his value outweigh his limitations, in terms of other teams situations? These are all questions we don't know the answer to so to me, it's certainly not a guarantee that he would be.

JMO

Hard to say Mathew Stafford in 2017 was the highest paid QB did he deserve it. I think you can do that with a lot of QB's. Jimmy G in SF only played a handful of games and was constantly dealing with injuries yet pulled down a top contract based on little to nothing. I have said time and again that I hate the business side of the NFL and I think there are contracts that if you put under the same microscope we are with Dak I think you would see guys getting contracts that maybe they do not deserve.

DFWJC · May 7, 2020

Darkhound said:
In an absolutely impossible scenario, but I CAN DREAM can I? If Dak gets released will be be the absolute starter in any other team?

What are your thoughts?
Sadly, I think that Dak is a very good BACKUP.

Maybe Jacksonville or Denver if the GMs don't want to give Minshew or Lock a full prove-it year.
New England would be....but if you factor in contract, that is impossible.
Washington?

The teams who committed big recently to star QBs in the draft will NOT do it. (That's Az, Cincy, NYJ, Buff, Miami, Balt, NYG)
As for the good veteran starters, It'd depend on if they were traded away or not. (Stafford, Ryan, etc)

The Fonz · May 7, 2020

Darkhound said:
In an absolutely impossible scenario, but I CAN DREAM can I? If Dak gets released will be be the absolute starter in any other team?

What are your thoughts?
Sadly, I think that Dak is a very good BACKUP.

Glad you finally seeing the lights ...welcome to the club my friend

As for Dak if he to be let go which i don't think is the case he will find another start...he won't be an elite but he will still be good enough for some teams

JW82 · May 7, 2020

Darkhound said:
In an absolutely impossible scenario, but I CAN DREAM can I? If Dak gets released will be be the absolute starter in any other team?

What are your thoughts?
Sadly, I think that Dak is a very good BACKUP.

It really is sad...that you've probably watched football for years and yet you don't know your butt from a hole in the wall...

sean10mm · May 7, 2020

Part of the problem is people are throwing words around without thinking about what they even mean.

Like if you think Dak is average, that means about half the league's starting QBs are worse, and about half the league's starting QBs are better. That's literally what "average" friggin' means.

If you think he's average, it makes no sense to think he can't get a job starting anywhere else in the NFL. It's contradictory.

ABQCOWBOY said:
Honest question. When you watch Dak play, do you see Marino or Montana or Favre or Elway or Peyton or Aikman?

I don't, but neither do I see Nathan Peterman, which is somehow what the more extreme critics here seem to sincerely believe, somehow.

I do find it funny that people somehow think Jerry is a bad GM, and Jason Garrett was a bad head coach, and the coordinators were bad most of the time... yet somehow playing on the Cowboys is easy mode and any putz could go 13-3 here? None of that adds up at all. So some of you simultaneously think that everything about the organization was moronic, but also that it's the greatest place any QB could possibly get to play?

Say what now?

JW82 · May 7, 2020

If we are going by talent and availability and not by new contracts, he'd probably only start on these teams.

Giants
Commanders
Eagles by week 4
Minny
Detroit by week 8
Chicago
SF
LA Rams
Carolina
Pats
Jets
Bills
Dolphins
Indy
Jags
Tennessee
Raiders
Chargers
Broncos
Cleveland
Cincy for now

sean10mm · May 7, 2020

I think the truth is that Dak in 2019 was a good but not great player, and for some reason a bunch of people here can't cope with that fact and have to either put him in the "hero" bucket or the "bum" bucket.

Romo had the exact same problem with the "fans" around here. Because he wasn't Tom Brady people talked about him like he was Spergon Wynn.

ondaedg · May 7, 2020

ABQCOWBOY said:
Honest question. When you watch Dak play, do you see Marino or Montana or Favre or Elway or Peyton or Aikman?

Why should i compare Dak to those HOFers? Honest question.

I want you to think hard about the original post I responded to before answering.

ABQCOWBOY · May 7, 2020

Doomsday101 said:
Hard to say Mathew Stafford in 2017 was the highest paid QB did he deserve it. I think you can do that with a lot of QB's. Jimmy G in SF only played a handful of games and was constantly dealing with injuries yet pulled down a top contract based on little to nothing. I have said time and again that I hate the business side of the NFL and I think there are contracts that if you put under the same microscope we are with Dak I think you would see guys getting contracts that maybe they do not deserve.

You can't look at those situations and compare them to Dallas and Dak. I mean, they are completely different. Drives me crazy.

Why did Stafford get paid in Detroit? He was the only draw they had so for them, it was worth it to pay him.

Garoppolo got paid but the contract, itself, was very team friendly. If Dak would agree to that deal, I think Dallas would do it in a minute. I would have. But again, you can't compare them because what Dak is asking for and what Garoppolo's deal was are two very different things I suspect.

It's apples and African Horned Cucumbers.......... :laugh:

DFWJC · May 7, 2020

tyke1doe said:
9. The Chargers (Tyrod Taylor is a glorified Dak Prescott. Or is it Dak is a glorified Tyrod?)

Chargers drafted Herbert in the top 10, so kind of the Tua scenario there.

OmerV · May 7, 2020

tyke1doe said:
Based on your scenario, these are the teams Dak could start for if he were released and signed by another team before Training Camp:
1. The Commanders (clearly better than Haskins at this point)
2. The Bears (though I'm not certain he could beat out Foles)
3. The Dolphins (until Tua is ready)
4. The Steelers (if Big Ben isn't ready)
5. The Bengals (if Cincy isn't ready to start Burrow)
6. The Jaguars (uh, yeah, he's better than Cashew, Minshew)
7. The Titans (who couldn't do what Tanehill has done?)
8. The Broncos (I'm not sold on Lockett just yet)
9. The Chargers (Tyrod Taylor is a glorified Dak Prescott. Or is it Dak is a glorified Tyrod?)

Tyrod Taylor is glorified? And like Dak?

Darkhound · May 7, 2020

It would be interesting if we had this conversation back in 1991 and instead of Dak we discussed Aikman.
I respect all those of you that see DAK as elite... i simply dont

ondaedg · May 7, 2020

sean10mm said:
I think the truth is that Dak in 2019 was a good but not great player, and for some reason a bunch of people here can't cope with that fact and have to either put him in the "hero" bucket or the "bum" bucket.

Romo had the exact same problem with the "fans" around here. Because he wasn't Tom Brady people talked about him like he was Spergon Wynn.

That's not the problem IMHO. I say this because I don't see the "Dak for mvp" or the "Dak is better than Mahomes" threads which are the extreme opposite version of this thread. They don't exist.

This thread is off the deep end and completely disassociates the facts with their "opinion".

QuincyCarterEra · May 7, 2020

ABQCOWBOY said:
You can't look at those situations and compare them to Dallas and Dak. I mean, they are completely different. Drives me crazy.

Why did Stafford get paid in Detroit? He was the only draw they had so for them, it was worth it to pay him.

Garoppolo got paid but the contract, itself, was very team friendly. If Dak would agree to that deal, I think Dallas would do it in a minute. I would have. But again, you can't compare them because what Dak is asking for and what Garoppolo's deal was are two very different things I suspect.

It's apples and African Horned Cucumbers..........

What Jimmy Garrapolo asked for was the largest contract in NFL history.

What in the **** are you talking about? Lmao

dckid · May 7, 2020

Darkhound said:
In an absolutely impossible scenario, but I CAN DREAM can I? If Dak gets released will be be the absolute starter in any other team?

What are your thoughts?
Sadly, I think that Dak is a very good BACKUP.

Ok I am not a Dak supporter or a Romo supporter.
This question is a bit crazy. Dak could start on several teams if he was Free Agent at the right time.

Giants, Commanders, Bears, TB, Carolina , Miami, Colts, Jaguars, Raiders, Detroit, Steelers.

My biggest heartache is the fact that we have to pay an average QB 35 million a year. The problem is the calculus of this logic does not compute.
That is the biggest problem people have.
Our brain is programmed to only pay big money to Elite... Elite guys. Manning,Brady, Wilson, Rodgers, Mahomes, etc..
The sad truth is the cost of having a capable QB is now very very expensive. The one guy that I think changed it all was Sam Bradford.
I mean how many teams paid that got 20+ million a year to basically do nothing, other than throw checkdowns?

Future · May 7, 2020

LMAO

Dak is the hands-down, unquestioned starter on like 25 teams.

Darkhound · May 7, 2020

Does the MAJORITY of you guys here think of believe that:

Dak > Carson Wentz?
Dak > Goff ?

INCowboysFan · May 7, 2020

Darkhound said:
Hopefully this season happens, Dak plays and we finally see the dud he is

Why on earth, as a supposed Cowboys fan, would you hope that Dak is a dud? **** with that attitude.

Rockport · May 7, 2020

Darkhound said:
In an absolutely impossible scenario, but I CAN DREAM can I? If Dak gets released will be be the absolute starter in any other team?

What are your thoughts?
Sadly, I think that Dak is a very good BACKUP.

Troll and you should be banned.

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