What makes someone love Dak while hating Romo, or vice versa?

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For me I have never "Loved" or "Hated" any Cowboy's quarterback, but looking at both players I have noticed they both often Failed under the biggest pressure. One was a free agent signee while the other was taken in the 4th round. Maybe Jerry Jones doesnt think you need to take a quarerback in the first round, as Tom Brady has proved that, but I would hope the next quarterback the team selects is in the higher draft bracket.
More often than not those make the best players.
 

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I thought Romo was a really good QB, boarderline Elite. He had his flaws and he made mistakes but the dude could play the QB position. I don't think Dak is that good. He either doesn't read a D well or he doesn't see the field well, one or the other. His pocket awareness is non existent, his technique gets really sloppy at times causing a lot of errant throws, some are quite easy throws as well. But then at times, he looks like a HOF QB. He is just horribly inconsistent, he will look like crap for 3 quarters and then be great for 1 quarter. Just never know what you are getting when Dak is on the field. And no where near worth what the Cowboys are about to pay him. But I don't "hate" Dak. I think we could do better and if they do end up paying 35m +, that will not turn out well for this franchise. But at the same time, I root like crazy every game for him and the other 52 players and coaches to be great.
 

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Romo was a good QB who was helped/saved by Scott Linehan in 2014 and one leaping Dez Bryant. . Dak is a good QB, with the chance to be better.
 

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I don't hate either one, I know that much.
But come on, the pockets of hate for Romo were very real.

I agree i dont hate on either one, but Romo was an ID10T early in games but man could he put the team on his back and win one. On the other hand Dak is better at taking care of the ball and not making the mistakes and puts you in a chance to win as well just not as dramatic fashion like Romo.
 

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Tony used to tick me off early in his career but later wont me over till his body broke down. Dak I welcomed because by 2015 i was ready for anyone but Romo. His unreliability in terms of health was just tough on the team. I never really had alot of disdain for romo its his over the top fans that are sickening to me.

Every excuse in the book but it was never him and that's what was annoying thread after thread of poor Tony he has no help.No defense No line etc.
 

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Cowboy fans hated Romo so much that they were okay letting a very average rookie QB keep his job on arguably our most talented team in a decade. Truthfully though, only people who have watched every one of both players snaps will truly understand the differences between the 2 players. I did not miss one single snap of Romo's career and I haven't missed one single snap of Dak's career. It's easy to watch highlights of a game or look up stats and put together a conclusion of who you think is better. That's all fine and dandy but to really understand the difference between the two it's almost a "you had to be there" moment. Throughout the 1st, 2nd 3rd and 4th quarters, while the game was live and the emotions were rolling, you could tell he was a lot more talented then any other player on the field. You could feel the magic when he had the ball in his hand. He wasn't as careful as Dak and might of tried to make plays that weren't there sure, but he was the best player on the field almost every time he was on the field. I've never once felt like Dak was better then anyone else playing on that day. Not once. That's my personal opinion of the difference between the 2. I don't hate Dak but he just isn't the talent Romo was. Dak is the perfect example of a lunch pail worker. Brings his lunch to work puts in his hours and clocks out. He does his job decently and goes home. He's not going to be noticed by everyone for messing up and he's not going to be noticed for being the best guy on site.
 

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Note: I don't want this to be the 500th edition of "Dak sucks" or "Romo sucks." Let's keep this one different - let's stay on topic, focused, and not stray into the usual same-old same-old arguments we've had elsewhere for years.




There are many Cowboys fans who love both Romo and Dak. There are also a few who, for some reason, hate both Romo and Dak. Okay, that's fine - at least they're consistent.

What puzzles me is fans who love Romo while hating Dak, or love Dak while hating Romo.

Because, from a purely objective standpoint, both players were quite similar. They both have a 1:2 ratio of playoff wins to losses, for instance. They were usually good enough to put the Cowboys in playoff contention every single December, even if not getting them in outright. They both made plays with their arms and legs, they had times when they were let down by shoddy defense or a bad O-line, they were both players of good character, etc. They both had good touchdown-to-interception ratios. They are both Pro Bowl level quarterbacks that the Cowboys were lucky to stumble into (one was a 4th-round pick, one was undrafted.)


In fact, I bet I could get some stats for both players - passing stats, win-to-loss ratio, etc. - and Cowboys Zoners wouldn't be able to readily guess which belonged to Romo and which belonged to Dak.

Yet - over the past few years - we've seen a stunning turnaround. The exact same posters here who criticized Romo, "It's wins that count, not stats" - now suddenly defend Dak by touting his stats and also saying, "A quarterback can't win by himself, it's a team game." And the exact same posters who defended Romo by saying "a quarterback can't win by himself" suddenly now criticize Dak "it's wins that count, not stats."

What gives? It's a strange, bizarre, hypocrisy.
That is a very well-worded, thoughtful OP. I can only dream there have only been 500 Dak/Romo suck threads/posts ever created on CowboysZone though. :laugh:Good luck with responses! :thumbup:
 

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Cowboy fans hated Romo so much that they were okay letting a very average rookie QB keep his job on arguably our most talented team in a decade. Truthfully though, only people who have watched every one of both players snaps will truly understand the differences between the 2 players. I did not miss one single snap of Romo's career and I haven't missed one single snap of Dak's career. It's easy to watch highlights of a game or look up stats and put together a conclusion of who you think is better. That's all fine and dandy but to really understand the difference between the two it's almost a "you had to be there" moment. Throughout the 1st, 2nd 3rd and 4th quarters, while the game was live and the emotions were rolling, you could tell he was a lot more talented then any other player on the field. You could feel the magic when he had the ball in his hand. He wasn't as careful as Dak and might of tried to make plays that weren't there sure, but he was the best player on the field almost every time he was on the field. I've never once felt like Dak was better then anyone else playing on that day. Not once. That's my personal opinion of the difference between the 2. I don't hate Dak but he just isn't the talent Romo was. Dak is the perfect example of a lunch pail worker. Brings his lunch to work puts in his hours and clocks out. He does his job decently and goes home. He's not going to be noticed by everyone for messing up and he's not going to be noticed for being the best guy on site.

The chances are VERY high that at least 95% of posters in this forum have seen every single snap of both players.

Aside from that, I get what you're saying.
I like them both, but you make some valid points.
 

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Selective memory then, PJ
Man, it was very vocal and loud.
20, 30, maybe even 50 people in this very forum wanted him gone after 2013.
Especially the Manziel crew...and there were (I counted at one point) at least 90 of them....half wanted him gone immediately and the other half wanted one year to groom Johnny football.
The vitriol was deafening.

Guys like ufcrules, Clove, Aviano, Blake, lostar, Gimmetheball, Gameover, and many more
Nonstop personal attacks on Romo with nastiness WAY beyond what we are seeing with dak. Not even close.

By the way, PJ, you were not one of them. You even said if we drafted Manziel "he would just be on the bench"

Look, I know all this because of way back then it got so ugly I started saving quotes that were outlandish--mainly the ones that got personal. Seems silly, but that's how bad it got.

As is your memory. I am talking Romo signing his 1st big conract, wasn't 2013.
 

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I thought Romo was a really good QB, boarderline Elite. He had his flaws and he made mistakes but the dude could play the QB position. I don't think Dak is that good. He either doesn't read a D well or he doesn't see the field well, one or the other. His pocket awareness is non existent, his technique gets really sloppy at times causing a lot of errant throws, some are quite easy throws as well. But then at times, he looks like a HOF QB. He is just horribly inconsistent, he will look like crap for 3 quarters and then be great for 1 quarter. Just never know what you are getting when Dak is on the field. And no where near worth what the Cowboys are about to pay him. But I don't "hate" Dak. I think we could do better and if they do end up paying 35m +, that will not turn out well for this franchise. But at the same time, I root like crazy every game for him and the other 52 players and coaches to be great.

Doesn't read the D and see the field well? Hilarious.
 

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How long did it take for you to feel Romo could bring you back from anything? People seem to only remember Romo's magical 2014 season, he was indeed spectacular. One of the best seasons played by a QB imo. It was also his 9th year starting. This season came after having 3 straight 8-8 years, where we couldn't get over the hump on the final game. Because if you felt Romo could come back from anything since his breakout year in 2007, you had your fair share of disappointment throughout the years to follow.
I know you weren't asking me, but I'd say starting in 2006
And then in that ugly/crazy/beautiful Buffalo game in 2007, he did exactly that.
You were never out of it with that guy. he had his flaws but being able to bring a team back was not one of them.

I mean, Romo literally led the entire league in 4th quarter comebacks from 2006-2015
So by definition, he was great at it.

As for Dak breaking eventually breaking the Cowboys passing marks....I agree.
 

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Dak had a chance to win, off the top of my head, 4 maybe 5 games last year in the 4th quarter. He didn't one time. There is no person on this entire planet that can convince me that Romo doesn't win at the very least half of those games.
 

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I know you weren't asking me, but I'd say starting in 2006
And then in that ugly/crazy/beautiful Buffalo game in 2007, he did exactly that.
You were never out of it with that guy. he had his flaws but being able to bring a team back was not one of them.

I mean, Romo literally led the entire league in 4th quarter comebacks from 2006-2015
So by definition, he was great at it.

As for Dak breaking eventually breaking the Cowboys passing marks....I agree.

He truly was great at it, but he also served multiple heart breaks, I really wish we could've won it all with him. I think Romo is easy to love because the last QB you can actually compare him to that played well in Dallas was Aikman. He blew all other QBs after that away. Dak's perception would be different if he didn't take over the beloved Romo, and instead had over half a decade of poor QB play to replace.
 

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Dak had a chance to win, off the top of my head, 4 maybe 5 games last year in the 4th quarter. He didn't one time. There is no person on this entire planet that can convince me that Romo doesn't win at the very least half of those games.
I'm with you there. But assuming Romo can withstand every hit in those games. His body was done.
 

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There are no Dak haters.

Only Dak critics asking legitimate questions.

This is hilariously untrue. The insults slung back & forth in these arguments by both sides puts the lie to that.

Trying to spin stuff like "Dak slobberers are despicable" as ~reasoned discourse~ is disingenuous as all hell.
 

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This is hilariously untrue. The insults slung back & forth in these arguments by both sides puts the lie to that.

Trying to spin stuff like "Dak slobberers are despicable" as ~reasoned discourse~ is disingenuous as all hell.
Wrong. It's the Dak critics responding to the attacks on them.
 
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