Mythbuster: Does Cowboys QB Dak Prescott have an Accuracy Problem?

Rockport · Jun 15, 2020

Reverend Conehead said:
You could do that sure, but with Dak it's not cherry picked. This is a pattern for him, and it has been his whole career, including college. He simply doesn't have the pinpoint accuracy of a Dan Marino or a Joe Montana, and he probably never will. The best he can do is good enough accuracy to be caught, but he can't split the eye of the needle to do those plays where you put the ball exactly where only his guy can get it. He's also thrown the ball just behind his receiver a lot so that the receiver has to reach back, thus impeding the run after the catch. I'm not saying he's a terrible QB. He has other big strengths that he's used to make up for his glaring weakness. He's durable. His leadership is good. He reads defenses usually pretty well and avoids taking stupid chances. He's got a lot going for him. I wouldn't trade him for Carsen Wentz, even though Wentz has better accuracy. That's because Wentz isn't durable, thus negating the value of his accuracy. But if the team could find a QB with that pinpoint accuracy who is durable and has an overall better set of skills, yeah, I'd go for that. I said in my original post that it's not easy. I think I was quite clear that either choice -- going with Dak or going with a stop-gap and then trying to draft someone better -- is hard. Almost nothing in football is easy. If you're trying to twist things to put words into my mouth that I'm saying Dak is a terrible QB, just stop. I'm not saying that at all. I'm only pointing out his biggest weakness and discussing that Dak isn't this team's only possibility. I've said all along that there's a max price where Dak is worth it, and now I believe what he's asking goes over where he's worth it any longer. You don't have to agree, but my choice is based on understanding the sport rather than wild speculation. Do you think Dak has the pinpoint accuracy of an elite quarterback? Because that's not what I see.

Again, Aikman and the real experts say otherwise. I'll take them over you or anyone else all the time.

Direwolf63 · Jun 15, 2020

FWIW, CBS just ranked thir top 10 QB's

1. Mahomes
2. Jackson
3. Wilson
4. Brees
5. Dak

"The Cowboys' refusal to give Dak Prescott the contract he wants and deserves continues to make no sense. They have a 26-year-old franchise quarterback they were lucky enough to draft in the fourth round four years ago and for some dumb reason, they haven't given him a long-term contract. And let's be clear: Dak deserves it.

In four seasons, Prescott is completing 65.8 percent of his passes, and averaging 3,944.5 passing yards per season, 7.6 yards per attempt, and 24.3 touchdown passes and nine interceptions per season. He's accumulated a 97.0 passer rating. He's also averaging 305.3 rushing yards and 5.3 rushing touchdowns per season. Since 2016, he ranks sixth in passing yards, tied for ninth in touchdown passes, and tied (with Russell Wilson) for second in quarterback wins (only Brady has more). He's coming off a season that saw him finish sixth in DVOA and fourth in total QBR.

So, it's not farfetched to think Prescott will play like a top-10 quarterback in 2020. He's mostly been playing at that level over the past four seasons. Now, in addition to Amari Cooper and Michael Gallup, he gets to throw to someone like CeeDee Lamb. I think there's a good chance Prescott outplays his ranking on this list. He's set up to thrive, which is why the Cowboys should sign him before the season begins and he drives up his asking price once again -- just like how they should've signed before last season, but I digress."

6. Deshaun
7. Stafford
8. Wentz
9. Brady
10. Rothlisberger

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...y-misses-cut-stafford-poised-for-career-year/

I would have put Rodgers ni there over a couple of these guys, but whatever.

Reverend Conehead · Jun 15, 2020

Rockport said:
Again, Aikman and the real experts say otherwise. I'll take them over you or anyone else all the time.

Those guys didn't discuss the elite accuracy issue. They only talked about how he's a good quarterback, which is true. Aikman also can't appear like a jerk on TV, but the truth is that his accuracy was way better than Dak's. Michael Irvin talked about how he and Aikman were so tight that he could have run a route blindfolded and then reached out at the right time and the ball would be right there. I don't have confidence that Dak could do that.

He's just not so good that if you over pay him to the point of hampering other positions that you can win a championship with him. If he gets his super pay day, meaning more than 30 mil a year, we can't win the Super Bowl with him and would be better off taking our chances moving on. Use a stop-gap for a year or two and then trade up to the highest pick possible in the first round and draft the best prospect possible. It's not a guarantee, I know. You could end up with a Ryan Leaf or an RG3, but you could also end up with a Payton Manning. If Dak accepts around 30 mil a year, I would be okay with going with him. You've got to draw the line somewhere.

Rockport · Jun 15, 2020

Reverend Conehead said:
Those guys didn't discuss the elite accuracy issue. They only talked about how he's a good quarterback, which is true. Aikman also can't appear like a jerk on TV, but the truth is that his accuracy was way better than Dak's. Michael Irvin talked about how he and Aikman were so tight that he could have run a route blindfolded and then reached out at the right time and the ball would be right there. I don't have confidence that Dak could do that.

He's just not so good that if you over pay him to the point of hampering other positions that you can win a championship with him. If he gets his super pay day, meaning more than 30 mil a year, we can't win the Super Bowl with him and would be better off taking our chances moving on. Use a stop-gap for a year or two and then trade up to the highest pick possible in the first round and draft the best prospect possible. It's not a guarantee, I know. You could end up with a Ryan Leaf or an RG3, but you could also end up with a Payton Manning. If Dak accepts around 30 mil a year, I would be okay with going with him. You've got to draw the line somewhere.

Aikman did in fact comment last year on how Dak has fixed his accuracy issues.

Captain-Crash · Jun 15, 2020

naw, I have seen him hit the side of the barn once or twice.

HungryLion · Jun 15, 2020

Reverend Conehead said:
Those guys didn't discuss the elite accuracy issue. They only talked about how he's a good quarterback, which is true. Aikman also can't appear like a jerk on TV, but the truth is that his accuracy was way better than Dak's. Michael Irvin talked about how he and Aikman were so tight that he could have run a route blindfolded and then reached out at the right time and the ball would be right there. I don't have confidence that Dak could do that.

He's just not so good that if you over pay him to the point of hampering other positions that you can win a championship with him. If he gets his super pay day, meaning more than 30 mil a year, we can't win the Super Bowl with him and would be better off taking our chances moving on. Use a stop-gap for a year or two and then trade up to the highest pick possible in the first round and draft the best prospect possible. It's not a guarantee, I know. You could end up with a Ryan Leaf or an RG3, but you could also end up with a Payton Manning. If Dak accepts around 30 mil a year, I would be okay with going with him. You've got to draw the line somewhere.

Aikman is one of the most accurate QB’s ever. He is a hall of famer. As a matter of fact there probably isn’t a QB in the league right now who is more accurate than Troy was.

So things need to be kept in perspective when people talk about Dak’s accuracy.

Reverend Conehead · Jun 16, 2020

Rockport said:
Aikman did in fact comment last year on how Dak has fixed his accuracy issues.

Not doubting you, though I'd love to see is quote. The reason is that it's really hard, and in fact unusual, for a quarterback to fix these kind of accuracy issues. However, if Dak has, that's great news. A lot of QBs with those kind of issues spend their entire careers with either no improvement, or only marginal improvement. Old habits die hard. But if he's gotten way better at pinpoint placement of the ball where only his guy can get it, that's great. I would be happy to be wrong on this. I don't think I always have to be right. If the clip is out there and you know where it is, I'm happy to check it out.

JoeKing · Jun 16, 2020

Reverend Conehead said:
Not doubting you, though I'd love to see is quote. The reason is that it's really hard, and in fact unusual, for a quarterback to fix these kind of accuracy issues. However, if Dak has, that's great news. A lot of QBs with those kind of issues spend their entire careers with either no improvement, or only marginal improvement. Old habits die hard. But if he's gotten way better at pinpoint placement of the ball where only his guy can get it, that's great. I would be happy to be wrong on this. I don't think I always have to be right. If the clip is out there and you know where it is, I'm happy to check it out.

Ranched · Jun 16, 2020

I don’t believe Dak has an accuracy problem in hitting his receivers, but he doesn’t lead his receivers often enough and the offense loses a lot of yards after the catch due to that.

tyke1doe · Jun 16, 2020

Whirlwin said:
Last year we had the worst special teams in the entire league. We only started one drive on the opponents side of the field. And I don’t like using statistics. But Prescott’s were better than Mahomes

All I know is against the Patriots, the Saints and the Eagles, we needed our quarterback to guide us to a touchdown, and he couldn't. We win either of those games, we're in the playoffs. You need your fourth year quarterback to give you more than that.

But he gets another chance this year. I hope he does well, but I'm wondering what excuse it's going to be if he falls short again. Shrug.

Whirlwin · Jun 16, 2020

tyke1doe said:
All I know is against the Patriots, the Saints and the Eagles, we needed our quarterback to guide us to a touchdown, and he couldn't. We win either of those games, we're in the playoffs. You need your fourth year quarterback to give you more than that.

But he gets another chance this year. I hope he does well, but I'm wondering what excuse it's going to be if he falls short again. Shrug.

Prescott was the best quarterback in the league is first three seasons, when he had the ball in his hands last. You can’t go 80 yards less than two minutes I need a touchdown. Poor poor analogy . Jason Garrett need I say more

Whirlwin · Jun 16, 2020

tyke1doe said:
All I know is against the Patriots, the Saints and the Eagles, we needed our quarterback to guide us to a touchdown, and he couldn't. We win either of those games, we're in the playoffs. You need your fourth year quarterback to give you more than that.

But he gets another chance this year. I hope he does well, but I'm wondering what excuse it's going to be if he falls short again. Shrug.

I’m not making excuses for my cowboy brother. I believe the kid is a winner. And I truly believe you’re only as good as your team. And we haven’t been that good since 2016

Whirlwin · Jun 16, 2020

daboyzruleperiod said:
I don’t believe Dak has an accuracy problem in hitting his receivers, but he doesn’t lead his receivers often enough and the offense loses a lot of yards after the catch due to that.

I actually thought that was one of his improve it leading his receivers. Last season. I know what he can do 2016 proved it. After that the team was in total turmoil and I can’t judge any talent at all especially under Jason Garrett. The problem is he wants a lot of money. And we don’t know what he’s going to do under this new coach. But I do know that there’s no one out there available that’s better

blueblood70 · Jun 16, 2020

Direwolf63 said:
FWIW, CBS just ranked thir top 10 QB's

1. Mahomes
2. Jackson
3. Wilson
4. Brees
5. Dak

"The Cowboys' refusal to give Dak Prescott the contract he wants and deserves continues to make no sense. They have a 26-year-old franchise quarterback they were lucky enough to draft in the fourth round four years ago and for some dumb reason, they haven't given him a long-term contract. And let's be clear: Dak deserves it.

In four seasons, Prescott is completing 65.8 percent of his passes, and averaging 3,944.5 passing yards per season, 7.6 yards per attempt, and 24.3 touchdown passes and nine interceptions per season. He's accumulated a 97.0 passer rating. He's also averaging 305.3 rushing yards and 5.3 rushing touchdowns per season. Since 2016, he ranks sixth in passing yards, tied for ninth in touchdown passes, and tied (with Russell Wilson) for second in quarterback wins (only Brady has more). He's coming off a season that saw him finish sixth in DVOA and fourth in total QBR.

So, it's not farfetched to think Prescott will play like a top-10 quarterback in 2020. He's mostly been playing at that level over the past four seasons. Now, in addition to Amari Cooper and Michael Gallup, he gets to throw to someone like CeeDee Lamb. I think there's a good chance Prescott outplays his ranking on this list. He's set up to thrive, which is why the Cowboys should sign him before the season begins and he drives up his asking price once again -- just like how they should've signed before last season, but I digress."

6. Deshaun
7. Stafford
8. Wentz
9. Brady
10. Rothlisberger

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...y-misses-cut-stafford-poised-for-career-year/

I would have put Rodgers ni there over a couple of these guys, but whatever.

o way rogers should be left out and no way daks ahead of Watson..good dak might be in 6th but I have him around 10 but adjustments for age and careers coming to an end and some decline in the older HOF Vets Dak could be 6th sure..i might still take Stafford over dak and wents vs dak is a coin flip.. thats why I say closer to 10 especially how dak ended last year..

leeblair · Jun 18, 2020

Floatyworm said:
Maybe we can bring Carr out of retirement?...or maybe trade for his brother...

Derek Carr would be a gift if the Cowboys could land him.
Maybe Gruden needs some Dak fans.

DCowboyz · Jun 18, 2020

Floatyworm said:
Maybe we can bring Carr out of retirement?...or maybe trade for his brother...

Lol, I hate when people post this. How was Carr on the field? Yeah, I wouldn't want that guy over Dak.

SpaceCowboy99 · Jun 19, 2020

Do you guys actually watch the games? It's very noticeable that he is not an elite accurate QB. He throws high, low, behind, etc. He rarely outs it in the sweet spot. It's so frustrating to watch him.

I compare the difference between playing football with your buddies and a pro QB.

Playing with your buddies, Im happy to be in the vicinity of the person when throwing at them.

Pro QB needs to be leading the player in the direction they should be going without losing speed.

Does this happen. All the time? No. But it should happen most of the time in the NFL. The NFL is a game of inches. Everything counts.

Dak simply is not an NFL elite accurate QB and shouldn't be paid like one.

Now before the Dak lovers kill me, all I'm saying is he is not deserving of a 35-40$ million a year contract. He is a good field general. He has some good qualities and can possibly take us to a SB.

If we can get him at $30 for 5 I'm down. Otherwise, get rid of him. We got Andy now.

Aviano90 · Jun 19, 2020

SpaceCowboy99 said:
Do you guys actually watch the games? It's very noticeable that he is not an elite accurate QB. He throws high, low, behind, etc. He rarely outs it in the sweet spot. It's so frustrating to watch him.

I compare the difference between playing football with your buddies and a pro QB.

Playing with your buddies, Im happy to be in the vicinity of the person when throwing at them.

Pro QB needs to be leading the player in the direction they should be going without losing speed.

Does this happen. All the time? No. But it should happen most of the time in the NFL. The NFL is a game of inches. Everything counts.

Dak simply is not an NFL elite accurate QB and shouldn't be paid like one.

Now before the Dak lovers kill me, all I'm saying is he is not deserving of a 35-40$ million a year contract. He is a good field general. He has some good qualities and can possibly take us to a SB.

If we can get him at $30 for 5 I'm down. Otherwise, get rid of him. We got Andy now.

I've been watching games on NFL game pass. Now that accuracy has become such a hot topic because of Dak it is I have noticed just often Romo was slightly off target on his passes. I don't believe Romo was "inaccurate" but what I do believe is you guys are overly critical about Dak's accuracy now. Dak was pretty inaccurate his first couple years and a perception has developed. He has improved but the perception still exists and now you're looking for it so every single time he is off target it is a big deal whereas with other QBs you just chalk it up to everyone makes the occasional bad throw.

If you want an example of a game, go watch the opening game of 2015 when Tony led the team back in the final minute. Check out how many passes were off target and some were big plays. One caused an interception because Witten reached back and tipped the ball up and the other he missed Dez wide open in the red zone on 3rd down. Dak would get killed for that type of game on these boards.

PAPPYDOG · Jun 19, 2020

PJTHEDOORS said:
LOL. Every QB has that problem. He chokes? LOL!!!!!

Dak's Deer in the headlights dance.....classic...

PAPPYDOG · Jun 19, 2020

DCowboyz said:
Lol, I hate when people post this. How was Carr on the field? Yeah, I wouldn't want that guy over Dak.

This video hurts down to your DAK core....you have our sympathies but not our Contract! :muttley:

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