Imagine if Amari deal hadn't been done before the draft

J12B

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Of course Lamb would have still been the pick.

But do you think the front office would have still extended Cooper?

I think they would have given him his deal anyway. Reason being they did give up a 1st round pick for him and he has produced. But it certainly could have gave them more leverage during negotiations.

I would bet drafting Lamb and Cooper still only franchise tagged would have created more offseason drama.

Can only imagine the threads/debates on here had that been the case :laugh:

Still glad Cooper is a Cowboy for years to come!

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I think they would have franchise tagged him and seen how the season played out. If Lamb/Gallup really performed well they probably would of let Cooper walk and found a cheaper slot guy in the draft or free agency.

Of course that wasn’t possible with the new CBA and Dak.
 

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I think they would have franchise tagged him and seen how the season played out. If Lamb/Gallup really performed well they probably would of let Cooper walk and foundation cheaper slot guy in the draft or free agency.

That is a definite possibility.

Wonder if Cooper would have sat out.
 

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As it is the contract is very team friendly so I'm not terribly concerned about it. What I am concerned about is if we have all three going over 1200+ yards per year the next 2 years and make some noise in the playoffs. Good problem to have until you have to figure out who to sign and who to let go. At the moment I'm thinking keep Gallup and Lamb and let Cooper go, but I really hope we can find a way to keep all three.
 

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That is a definite possibility.

Wonder if Cooper would have sat out.


It’s much harder to sit out under the new CBA. I don’t think that will be a thing anymore.
 

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Of course Lamb would have still been the pick.

But do you think the front office would have still extended Cooper?

I think they would have given him his deal anyway. Reason being they did give up a 1st round pick for him and he has produced. But it certainly could have gave them more leverage during negotiations.

I would bet drafting Lamb and Cooper still only franchise tagged would have created more offseason drama.

Can only imagine the threads/debates on here had that been the case :laugh:

Still glad Cooper is a Cowboy for years to come!

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If it wasn't done before the draft, how do we still have rights to him? My recollection is that we couldn't tag both Cooper and Dak.
 

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No way the franchise tag would have ever been used on Coop over Dak. Dak is the priority on this team. Anyone that doubts that needs to have their head extracted from their anal passage. Coop was the priority over any possible WR draft pick this year which is exactly why he was signed at great expense. You people need to stop kissing Lamb's butt. He's just a rookie that has done nothing in the pro game to date. No star on his helmet just yet and rightfully so.
 

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Of course Lamb would have still been the pick.

But do you think the front office would have still extended Cooper?

I think they would have given him his deal anyway. Reason being they did give up a 1st round pick for him and he has produced. But it certainly could have gave them more leverage during negotiations.

I would bet drafting Lamb and Cooper still only franchise tagged would have created more offseason drama.

Can only imagine the threads/debates on here had that been the case :laugh:

Still glad Cooper is a Cowboy for years to come!

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Hard to tell how rookie WR's will play. And there is also a high bust rate
 

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If it wasn't done before the draft, how do we still have rights to him? My recollection is that we couldn't tag both Cooper and Dak.

You must be right. My thinking was that teams could franchise tag two players. But it's actually they can tag a player for 2 years. My bad on that.
 

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You must be right. My thinking was that teams could franchise tag two players. But it's actually they can tag a player for 2 years. My bad on that.
They would have been able to use two tags this past year because it was the last year of the CBA. Once the new CBA was signed that went away
 

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Of course Lamb would have still been the pick.

But do you think the front office would have still extended Cooper?

I think they would have given him his deal anyway. Reason being they did give up a 1st round pick for him and he has produced. But it certainly could have gave them more leverage during negotiations.

I would bet drafting Lamb and Cooper still only franchise tagged would have created more offseason drama.

Can only imagine the threads/debates on here had that been the case :laugh:

Still glad Cooper is a Cowboy for years to come!

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yeh , but who could have foreseen Lamb (who was rated 6th overall by Cowboys board) mysteriously dropping further down right into the Cowboys lap.

i do wonder if eagles had anticipated Cowboys drafting lamb, (vs virtually everyone
assuming Cowboys would've take LSU edger Chaisson) would they had enrich their trade proposals much harder to teams picking a few spots ahead of us. i definitely know now how much their dear (dreaded?) fans were really piss crying to get Lamb and how much they were heart broken to NOT get Lamb.
- This has to rate behind Drew Pearson as the 2nd best get back at ya Philly fan moments !

- But hypothetically assuming Cooper walked per FA (and signed with Skins) ...had Lamb Not had been there for the picking ( and Eagles successfully traded up to get Lamb ?) ... then that would have placed us Cowboys in a deep pickle, and that far less WR weapons for Dak.

- What would have happen then ? .... we either pick the next best top rated player on our board ( Chasson?)
or move down further in the 1st round, likely a few spots, pick up a 2nd rounder, and draft the next best
available WR still left on their board .
..either that be 1st round ( LSU's justin jefferson?...) or 2nd round (USC's Michael Pittman?) or Clemson's Tee Higgins ?)

- But i've no doubt that we would have been immediately drafting WR within the first two rounds.
That's why i believe the Cowboys not only gave (cave?) in to panic at last minute in re-signing Cooper over
the fear and possibility of losing him in FA, ..and not having the chance to draft (in their minds) the only two
lead WRs in draft warranted of 17th overall pick.

- Mind you also that not only did they re-sign Cooper to a mega deal that makes among highest paid WRs in NFL history, ...but that contract was mended with a option out after 2 years, ... why an " escape" clause ?
i can only assume that if Cooper displays some of the concerning flaws he's been most criticized for, then
the option allows team to move on,.as Lamb becomes our new No.1 lead WR.

:cool:
 

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They now have two 1st round WRs with the oldest being only 26. Wow
 

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yeh , but who could have foreseen Lamb (who was rated 6th overall by Cowboys board) mysteriously dropping further down right into the Cowboys lap.

i do wonder if eagles had anticipated Cowboys drafting lamb, (vs virtually everyone
assuming Cowboys would've take LSU edger Chaisson) would they had enrich their trade proposals much harder to teams picking a few spots ahead of us. i definitely know now how much their dear (dreaded?) fans were really piss crying to get Lamb and how much they were heart broken to NOT get Lamb.
- This has to rate behind Drew Pearson as the 2nd best get back at ya Philly fan moments !

- But hypothetically assuming Cooper walked per FA (and signed with Skins) ...had Lamb Not had been there for the picking ( and Eagles successfully traded up to get Lamb ?) ... then that would have placed us Cowboys in a deep pickle, and that far less WR weapons for Dak.

- What would have happen then ? .... we either pick the next best top rated player on our board ( Chasson?)
or move down further in the 1st round, likely a few spots, pick up a 2nd rounder, and draft the next best
available WR still left on their board .
..either that be 1st round ( LSU's justin jefferson?...) or 2nd round (USC's Michael Pittman?) or Clemson's Tee Higgins ?)

- But i've no doubt that we would have been immediately drafting WR within the first two rounds.
That's why i believe the Cowboys not only gave (cave?) in to panic at last minute in re-signing Cooper over
the fear and possibility of losing him in FA, ..and not having the chance to draft (in their minds) the only two
lead WRs in draft warranted of 17th overall pick.

- Mind you also that not only did they re-sign Cooper to a mega deal that makes among highest paid WRs in NFL history, ...but that contract was mended with a option out after 2 years, ... why an " escape" clause ?
i can only assume that if Cooper displays some of the concerning flaws he's been most criticized for, then
the option allows team to move on,.as Lamb becomes our new No.1 lead WR.

:cool:

That's a great point. The Eagles could have very well traded up to grab Lamb a spot or two before us knowing it was possible Lamb would be the pick without having Cooper under contract.
 

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You must be right. My thinking was that teams could franchise tag two players. But it's actually they can tag a player for 2 years. My bad on that.

There were going to be 2 tags available before they approved the collective bargaining agreement, and then it went back down to 1.
 

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As it is the contract is very team friendly so I'm not terribly concerned about it. What I am concerned about is if we have all three going over 1200+ yards per year the next 2 years and make some noise in the playoffs. Good problem to have until you have to figure out who to sign and who to let go. At the moment I'm thinking keep Gallup and Lamb and let Cooper go, but I really hope we can find a way to keep all three.
Do it like Belicheck does and trade Gallup for a 1st & 3rd last year of his contract
 

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Of course Lamb would have still been the pick.

But do you think the front office would have still extended Cooper?

I think they would have given him his deal anyway. Reason being they did give up a 1st round pick for him and he has produced. But it certainly could have gave them more leverage during negotiations.

I would bet drafting Lamb and Cooper still only franchise tagged would have created more offseason drama.

Can only imagine the threads/debates on here had that been the case :laugh:

Still glad Cooper is a Cowboy for years to come!

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Very interesting premise. Thought provoking. Lots of good comments.
 

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Does Lamb still fall to us is also the question. Some teams didn’t think we would take a WR, they know for sure we would if we didn’t have Cooper. Maybe someone trades up
 
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