Video: Dak 46 in top 100

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rocyaice said:
Well I mean who else should they vote for lol? Their enemies?
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No, they could vote for people they kinda-sorta know. Like, you say hello to them in the hallway, but don't really talk to them otherwise.
 
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JoaquinFenix said:
Hope Dak and his agent, Todd France, take note of how many QBs are ranked higher than Dak. They then should consider some introspection regarding their approach to Dak's contract demands. But I doubt they will.
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When will people take notice contracts are not given out based on these rankings or success? Stafford was once the highest paid player ever and he never has never came close to winning anything. Jimmy G was given a huge deal and did nada but a few starts in place of Brady being suspended. Dak is a QB and not bad at all. QB's salaries are inflated and have no signs of coming down. People need to realize this. His camp does not care about some random rankings.
 
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CowboysFaninHouston said:
so according to some here, given Dak is 46 and wentz 96, then does that mean his contract should be that much more than Wentz? then his demands aren't unrealistic. I mean its the ranking right?
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My b that list was 2019 sorry, my mistake
 

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DFWJC said:
Well, Garopollo is 41, Tannehil is 68.......

And most likely, 9 others are also ahead of him as well.
Not that this list means anything, but just pointing it out.
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this makes a great point, these rankings are meaningless and for fans. contracts are what the market bears and what the team values and how they manage the team building as a result of that. I do think Dak is top 10 QB, I wouldn't put tannehill ahead of wentz, specially after half a season of performance and awful awful awful playoff performance he had.
 

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"Fully Guaranteed" Kurt Cousins was 58 with a losing record to Dak Prescott. I know Stephen and Jerry Dumbo GM Jones have made another idiotic move not to have Dak long term in Dallas. That means players and his peers consider Dak a top 10 QB, and he has the 3 out of 4 Pro Bowl years to prove it. Stephen A Smith continues to be a Cowboys prophet with Cowboys accident no.1 of not signing a franchise QB to a long term deal. Not because Smith is knowledgeable about football it is that Jerry and Stephen are so Football dumb.

2nd to only Tom Brady in wins. So much for "winning is the name of the game", it does not matter in Jerry World.
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Anybody who thinks of Screaming A. Smith as a "prophet" shouldn't be taken seriously. This is especially true given his animosity toward the Cowboys. Somebody that antagonistic toward your organization is probably giving you bad advice.
 

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When will people take notice contracts are not given out based on these rankings or success? Stafford was once the highest paid player ever and he never has never came close to winning anything. Jimmy G was given a huge deal and did nada but a few starts in place of Brady being suspended. Dak is a QB and not bad at all. QB's salaries are inflated and have no signs of coming down. People need to realize this. His camp does not care about some random rankings.
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Because Dak's contract demands aren't consistent with reality. He wants to be paid like the top QB in the NFL. His peers clearly don't agree with that assessment.
 
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DFWJC said:
So it looks like they will have between 9-12 QBs rated higher...so top 10 to 14 range

?Mahomes
?Wilson
?Rodgers
?Brees
?Jackson
?Brady
?Watson
?Ryan

Not so sure about Stafford or Roethlisberger (injuries) or Wentz

41) Garopollo

46) Prescott
58) Cousins
68) Tannehill
87) Allen
90) Murray

Guys I’ll guess for sure wont make it (not in order)

Carr, Goff, Lock, Newton, Bridgewater, Darnold, Mayfield, Burrow, Rivers, Tua, Jones, Minshew, Foles/Trubisky, Haskins
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if i am seeking a QB to take me to the super bowl in the NEXT TWO YEARs , i honestly would take several QBs , rated below Dak , over dak . The QBs would be

Brady ( Accuracy, Experience, great at reading defenses )
Rothlisberger ( Experience and poise under pressure)
Stafford ( Experience and accuracy , reads the defenses)
Murray ( Game changer, shifty, accurate, big league arm )
Baker Mayfield ( Accuracy and Moxie , and poise under pressure)
Dalton ( accurate , experienced , huge Savings on the cap to help fix the D)
Cousins ( Accuracy , reads defenses well)

bottom line, with what Dak is asking to be paid , like a top QB , and what the experts and peers have rated him , Dak has put himself under further scrutiny and pressure to prove he is a super bowl caliber QB .
 

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DFWJC said:
Well, Garopollo is 41, Tannehil is 68.......

And most likely, 9 others are also ahead of him as well.
Not that this list means anything, but just pointing it out.
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I think that's some major recency bias. No way Tannehill is the 68th best player in the NFL.
 
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DFWJC said:
A hugely flawed agent-driven system that needs to be fixed.

The concept of "next man up", regardless of how good they are, is beyond silly.
The agents are winning on that front.
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That’s literally how the entire world works. What your saying is that once the market is set it shouldn’t move. It’s like going into a car dealership and saying that you want to buy a 2020 model for what the 2015 cost. Or telling a real estate agent that you only want to pay what the house was sold for previously. Hell, walk into a pizza joint and try to pay the same price for a slice as you did 5 years ago. Every $ moves

Of course QB contracts will continue to go up, just like nfl revenue keeps rising. Accepting a 5 year contract based on 2019 salaries would be dumb. It’s not that complicated
 
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That’s literally how the entire world works. What your saying is that once the market is set it shouldn’t move. It’s like going into a car dealership and saying that you want to buy a 2020 model for what the 2015 cost. Or telling a real estate agent that you only want to pay what the house was sold for previously. Hell, walk into a pizza joint and try to pay the same price for a slice as you did 5 years ago. Every $ moves

Of course QB contracts will continue to go up, just like nfl revenue keeps rising. Accepting a 5 year contract based on 2019 salaries would be dumb. It’s not that complicated
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No , not really
Not really at all.

The latest contract does not have to be the highest just because it's the latest.
The whole concept is beyond ludicrous.

The only way that really works is if all else is equal---similar or same talent, etc. Then yes, in a rising price environment like the NFL, the latest would usually get the most. Use Wilson and Mahomes as examples....as they are probably ranked 1-2.

But, just as an example, if you're 20th best at your position (not saying that's dak, just an example) but your contract just came up....you should not get more than the best player in the league who signed last year.
It's just plain idiotic.

As for pizza joints and general stuff like that....you are just talking about the simple concept of inflation. That being, all else exactly equal, prices go up.
Thats very different.
 

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tm1119 said:
That’s literally how the entire world works. What your saying is that once the market is set it shouldn’t move. It’s like going into a car dealership and saying that you want to buy a 2020 model for what the 2015 cost. Or telling a real estate agent that you only want to pay what the house was sold for previously. Hell, walk into a pizza joint and try to pay the same price for a slice as you did 5 years ago. Every $ moves

Of course QB contracts will continue to go up, just like nfl revenue keeps rising. Accepting a 5 year contract based on 2019 salaries would be dumb. It’s not that complicated
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Or like saying I just bought this Ford Fiat for 20 grand, so I should be able to trade it in straight up for a 60 grand truck.

You're completely ignoring the fact that players are not equal.
 

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tm1119 said:
That’s literally how the entire world works. What your saying is that once the market is set it shouldn’t move. It’s like going into a car dealership and saying that you want to buy a 2020 model for what the 2015 cost. Or telling a real estate agent that you only want to pay what the house was sold for previously. Hell, walk into a pizza joint and try to pay the same price for a slice as you did 5 years ago. Every $ moves

Of course QB contracts will continue to go up, just like nfl revenue keeps rising. Accepting a 5 year contract based on 2019 salaries would be dumb. It’s not that complicated
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Or like saying I just bought this Ford Fiat for 20 grand, so I should be able to trade it in straight up for a 60 grand truck.

You're completely ignoring the fact that players are not equal.
 

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JoaquinFenix said:
Of course they do. Better players earn more money. Not sure why you're so confused about that.
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sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. age, etc. all come into play. wentz is not ranked this year, but he is making $33M, so if Wentz is not ranked and Dak is ranked then shouldn't Dak make something like $40M? its a dumb ranking and these rankings have nothing to do with how front offices, scouts value players and how they rank them.
 
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JoaquinFenix said:
Hope Dak and his agent, Todd France, take note of how many QBs are ranked higher than Dak. They then should consider some introspection regarding their approach to Dak's contract demands. But I doubt they will.
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Yea all those years Dak was asking for was ridiculous....no wait
 
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Playmaker247 said:
https://www.nfl.com/videos/top-100-players-of-2020-dak-prescott-no-46


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I have no problem seeing Dak at 46.

But i do have a problem when i see Tyron Smith who is at least top 3 at the tackle position and Zack Martin who is at least top 2 at his position both ranking way lower then him. Even if you consider Dak a top 7 QB a player who is no7 at his position should not be ranked higher then a top 2 player.

This list seems to be more about the value of a position and the marketing-factor of a position (see for instance Zeke at 25 which is a bad joke) then the actual strength of the player at his position compared to others.
 
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