What would you give up for Wilson?

GMO415 said:

Trade em Dak and a 1st round.

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Keep Dak, use all pics on the D.

JoeKing said:

My Dick Tracy decoder ring.

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This is a family site.

Ezekiel Elliott, DeMarcus Lawrence, Chris Jones, LVE, Jaylon Smith, Kellen Moore.

Sadly Russell's still under contract & isn't going anywhere lol. Carry on....

J12B said:

This is a family site.

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So what, I got that ring as a child and it was my precious for many years which says a lot that I'm will to give it up for Wilson. We are talking about the "Castaway" soccer ball, right?

J12B said:

Several NFC West divisions.

And that is with no elite defense, bad oline, average RB, and average WRs for the most part although Metcalfe is emerging.

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That's not winning. Where are the SB rings?

J12B said:

What's the best offer you'd send to the Seahawks.

I like Dak a lot, but Wilson is a natural born winner. I'd give up the house for him. He can carry this team with a solid oline, Zeke, Cooper, Gallup and Lamb.

2020
1st round
3rd round

2021
1st round
3rd round

2022
2nd round

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Hmm, I don't know his name, but his initials are DAK.

J12B said:

Several NFC West divisions.

And that is with no elite defense, bad oline, average RB, and average WRs for the most part although Metcalfe is emerging.

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The reason he doesn't have an elite defense and a bad OL and average running backs is b/c Seattle is hamstrung by his salary cap number. Thats not going to change moving him to Dallas which has a far worse defense.

OmerV said:

I'm sure some will start insulting people for their view on this, but to my thinking it's not irrational for a person to have either one of these views even though they are in opposition to each other.

Contrary to what is popular for people to think these days, it is possible for rational people to have different viewpoints.

Ultimately it just takes reasonable people to discuss the options in a reasonable manner and come up with the best solution they can

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Ranching said:

Wilson is good, but I think signing Dak and keeping all those picks would make us better.

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The sticking point is 'signing Dak' - has not happened over the last two offseasons - and no indication that an agreement is close at hand.
Curious to why Wilson would list Dallas as a franchise to continue his career.
Perhaps he wants to barter an NFL Championship delivery into obtaining a piece of the Cowboys financial kingdom?

if no deal could be reached...i'd do a trade involving Dak and the 10th pick.
thats it.
no more players thrown in.
no more picks.
i ain't sean mcvay.

but if this team doesnt want to pay Dak....they won't like wilson's price any better.
its better to just get a deal done with Dak.

Sydla said:

That's not true. Those are his cap hits for Seattle who has paid him signing and roster bonuses. If they trade him, they have to take advance those bonus cap hits onto their existing 2021 cap. Wilson on another team has lower cap hits and is quite affordable (relative to other QBs).

I believe I read his cap hits for any team trading for him would be: $19 million in 2021, $24 million in 2022 and $27 million in 2023. That's his base in 2021 of $19 million, then the same base in 2022 + a 5 million roster bonus and then a $22 million base in 2023 + $5 million roster bonus. There are some base escalators in there as well but not a huge amount.

Any team trading for Wilson is getting a great deal in terms of contract for the next three seasons.

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Interesting. Also more reasons why Seattle won't be trading him.
This sounds like a power play from Wilson. I just don't see Seattle trading him away. Makes for interesting conversation during a boring offseason though.

J12B said:

I like Dak a lot, but Wilson is a natural born winner. I'd give up the house for him.

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Yet another member comparing a 9+ seasons veteran to a kid whose only played a little over 4 years.

atlantacowboy said:

Nothing. He won a super bowl on his rookie deal b/c Seattle was able to load up on defense. Since signing his big contract, Seattle has done nothing but gut the defense to accomodate his huge cap number. Seattle has now realized they can't win with him so why would we? Seattle is run by much smarter people than Dallas.

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It really is absurd that people think he would “instantly” make us playoff contenders when we’ve already had the number one offense once and a top 5 offense a couple times and yet we still sucked because we had no defense. Now they want to give up more draft picks thus further hindering any chance at improving our defense?! To gain what? The number one offense?

This seems like such a typical Jerry move I could actually see it happening. Jerry would bring more exposure and hype to the Cowboys, the likes of which they haven’t seen in years and a lot of fans would eat it up. Fast forward 5 years when we’ve only won one playoff game and Wilson is on the decline then those same fans, along with every other football fan and media personality, will be mocking Jerry and the Cowboys once again for being so dumb and trading a bunch of picks for a QB when they already had a top offense but then blew their shot at building a defense.

daboyzruleperiod said:

Yet another member comparing a 9+ seasons veteran to a kid whose only played a little over 4 years.

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Wilson has a proven track record of success.

What's wrong with that.

Sydla said:

CBS Sports had a crazy three team trade with the Raiders involved where we give up Dak, a 2022 first round and then like a 4th round pick.

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I went and looked at that trade
Not sure how realistic it is but I’d do that deal in a heartbeat

Am I getting my 2 first with the non-exclusive tag on Dak because Seattle is not taking Dak and paying him 40-can’t believe that.

Typhus said:

Why the left,, is there something wrong with the right?

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It hangs lower. I'm keeping it.

I'd rather rebuild.

superonyx said:

Wilson makes 32m, 37m and 40m over the next 3 years. Thats not cheap.

Swap Dak for Wilson and you win the same number of games.
Keep the draft picks and fix the defense or Wilson and Ciara will be griping at Jerry about losing and not controlling things like he does in Seattle.

The guy seems to have turned in to one of those types that likes to drink his own bath water and smell his own farts.

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Ok to be honest, we all smell our own farts. But the noise out of Dak's camp is he wants a contract in the 40 million range which is more expensive than Wilson so it's the same argument of spending big money on a QB or having cap room for the defense. It's the argument we've had on this board all year.

My personal opinion if we spend 40 million a year on a QB and the choice is Dak or Russel, I'm going with Russell every time. He's got a longer body of work of elite QB play, Dak has had 2 great years and 2 below average years. I like Dak but not for 40 million a year.

If I got my wish. My wish would be to trade Dak for a couple 1st rounders. Trade a mid round pick for someone like Darnold or Trubisky. Rebuild the roster this year, get out of salary cap hell with Zeke and Jaylon type contracts. Then see what happens in 2022 as far as attracting a more talented QB on the end of his career (like the bucs with Brady) or maybe one of the draft picks we pick up from the Dak trade goes to a QB and that QB takes over for Darnold or Trubisky or Newton or whoever we get on the cheap for a one year rental.

I personally don't think a team can win it all with a 40-45 million QB and a weaker roster. I feel defense wins championships and we have to blow up our defense and completely rebuild it. I feel an above average QB can win a super bowl with an elite defense and offensive line.

But if we have to pay a QB 40 million, which I don't want to do, then I'd go with the elite Wilson. At least you'll be paying for elite play. Paying elite money for non elite play is a ticket to mediocrity.

What does Jerry want to do? We should probably do the exact opposite of that.

superonyx said:

Wilson makes 32m, 37m and 40m over the next 3 years. Thats not cheap.

Swap Dak for Wilson and you win the same number of games.
Keep the draft picks and fix the defense or Wilson and Ciara will be griping at Jerry about losing and not controlling things like he does in Seattle.

The guy seems to have turned in to one of those types that likes to drink his own bath water and smell his own farts.

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Almost correct, but not actually correct. You are correct that those are his cap hits IF he stayed in Seattle. However, if he were to be traded his cap hits for the team that traded for him would be 19 million, 24 million, and 27 million. The reason you made this mistake, and its one that is made quite often, is that you are not factoring in the prorated signing bonus that would be on the Seahawks to eat of which 39 million still remains or 13 million per season. Wilson is an incredibly cheap option at QB which is why for the Cowboys to pry him away it would have to be something like Dak and 2 1s.