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Let me guess, he's now a Bucs fans right? Lol

I cant stand a team changer. Its a lack of loyalty.

actually after NE won their last SB he claimed he always liked NE and Brady. Says same thing about Alabama. Then switched from Rangers to Astros after Nolan Ryan went there to help his son. And became a fan after they cheated and won.

only team he has not switched is he is a huge UT Longhorns fan.
Claims all their players will do great in the NFL. He takes homerism to a new level there. He did not go to college there.

I known him since 1998, and he never mentioned Alabama, NE or Astros until recently.
And I remind him of that.

and he did say he liked TB last year because of Brady.
 
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B to C is fair. Higher is too optimistic. Lower too pessimistic.

There were some missed opportunities that shouldn't be ignored. But we added alot of quality talent as well. I think an individuals assessment focusing mostly on either one of those is fair as long as the take the other into account as well
 

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actually after NE won their last SB he claimed he always liked NE and Brady. Says same thing about Alabama. Then switched from Rangers to Astros after Nolan Ryan went there to help his son. And became a fan after they cheated and won.

only team he has not switched is he is a huge UT Longhorns fan.
Claims all their players will do great in the NFL. He takes homerism to a new level there. He did not go to college there.

I known him since 1998, and he never mentioned Alabama, NE or Astros until recently.
And I remind him of that.

and he did say he liked TB last year because of Brady.

Lol yup, Tampa is gonna be his team now. Obviously, because of Brady. I know the type, and call them out every single time.

I'm sure he has an uncle from KC too and if things fall that way he's always kinda followed the Chiefs. Lol
 

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Lol yup, Tampa is gonna be his team now. Obviously, because of Brady. I know the type, and call them out every single time.

I'm sure he has an uncle from KC too and if things fall that way he's always kinda followed the Chiefs. Lol

oh yes he was all over them last year.
His deal is…well they are the original Dallas team. Not the Cowboys.
I call him out on that also.
I told him well if it is so important to you to think that way go right ahead. We all know the truth.

He is a nice guy overall, but also very odd in his own ways, hard headed.
 

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B to C is fair. Higher is too optimistic. Lower too pessimistic.

There were some missed opportunities that shouldn't be ignored. But we added alot of quality talent as well. I think an individuals assessment focusing mostly on either one of those is fair as long as the take the other into account as well
Exactly. I think if it hadn't been for the Golston and Wright picks this would have been an easy A to give. It wasn't that they were necessarily bad picks, just bad picks for where they were made.
 

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Only grade I care about is impact grade. How many of these young guys can come in and make a positive impact on this defense. I expect a lot of the players with in the first 3 Rounds in Parsons, Joseph, Odighizuwa, Golston and Wright. Regardless of how others feel about these players the organization and coaches put their faith in these guys and I hope to see these guys contribute sooner rather than later.
I’m warning up to the Golston pick. Lots of people who seem to know, like the pick.
 

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And they don't mean diddly-poo until 2-3 years down the road. I've seen everything ranging from A's to C's on this draft. That's a pretty big spread.

There's a lot to be optimistic about with this draft. There's also plenty of room for skepticism/rage induced hissy fits. Neither of which will be validated for at least a couple of years.

I personally loved the way the Parsons pick played out with us being able to pick up an extra 3rd and still get the player we wanted, blocking NY from getting Smith, and sending Smith to a team with a lesser QB talent where I don't think he'll be as much of a factor as he would have been in NY with Golladay playing on the other side. This was a shrewd move by our FO on all of those merits.

The 3rd round was a bit of a head scratcher with Golston and Wright and probably where the team gets a lot of the aforementioned skepticism/rage induced hissy fits. However, these are guys that could surprise and change the perspective of the draft in a couple years, or they could suck and be gone by the end of training camp. OO was a nice get but I preferred McNeill who I feel was more of what we needed in a run stopper, unfortunately so did the Lions...c'est la vie.

Getting Cox in the 4th was a home run and I look forward to seeing what he and Parsons make this defense look like in a couple years.

For the late round guys, I'm excited to see what Mukuamu can do. This team has needed a ball hawk in the secondary since forever ago and the kid looks to be just that. I'll let you experts debate on whether he has the skills to succeed. Bohanna looks like the fatty we've needed to plug up the middle in the run game. Hopefully he will be our version of Snacks Harrison.

Overall, I give it a solid B+

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Wide range of grades for Dallas draft because I think it can be boom or bust. This draft will be really great or could be historically bad. Only time will tell but plenty to be optimistic about
 

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I’m warning up to the Golston pick. Lots of people who seem to know, like the pick.
Yeah, like I mentioned above, it's not necessarily a "bad pick" just a guy they could have gotten later so I think that's why all the negativity surrounding it. Like, if Cox had been taken in his place, or better yet, in place of Wright, and Golston had gone in the 4th or 5th or Wright was picked up in the 7th then nobody would likely be complaining about it. It was all about the value of the picks.
 

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And they don't mean diddly-poo until 2-3 years down the road. I've seen everything ranging from A's to C's on this draft. That's a pretty big spread.

There's a lot to be optimistic about with this draft. There's also plenty of room for skepticism/rage induced hissy fits. Neither of which will be validated for at least a couple of years.

I personally loved the way the Parsons pick played out with us being able to pick up an extra 3rd and still get the player we wanted, blocking NY from getting Smith, and sending Smith to a team with a lesser QB talent where I don't think he'll be as much of a factor as he would have been in NY with Golladay playing on the other side. This was a shrewd move by our FO on all of those merits.

The 3rd round was a bit of a head scratcher with Golston and Wright and probably where the team gets a lot of the aforementioned skepticism/rage induced hissy fits. However, these are guys that could surprise and change the perspective of the draft in a couple years, or they could suck and be gone by the end of training camp. OO was a nice get but I preferred McNeill who I feel was more of what we needed in a run stopper, unfortunately so did the Lions...c'est la vie.

Getting Cox in the 4th was a home run and I look forward to seeing what he and Parsons make this defense look like in a couple years.

For the late round guys, I'm excited to see what Mukuamu can do. This team has needed a ball hawk in the secondary since forever ago and the kid looks to be just that. I'll let you experts debate on whether he has the skills to succeed. Bohanna looks like the fatty we've needed to plug up the middle in the run game. Hopefully he will be our version of Snacks Harrison.

Overall, I give it a solid B+

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It’s a reflection of the times! Opinions now need disclaimers! I noticed you included no legal documents, signed affidavits, governmental support, Supreme Court testimony, or any other applicable information to make your views acceptable to decent society.
 

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That draft didn't age well. NFL.com gave us an A- for this one.......which is ironically the same grade they just gave us for this past one.


I don't agree. Easy A draft if LVE isnt always hurt. Nobody can predict injuries. You get 4 or 5 guys out of a draft that are good solid players thats a good draft
 

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Agreed. From what I've read of the character concerns, they seemed to be one off instances and not part of a larger pattern of behavior, but I could be wrong.
I've posted this before but a famous national collegiate coach (Holtz) once said that if character and discipline mattered then Navy and Air Force would play for the National Championship every year. I've looked at all the issues and they seem to be a bunch of things that 19 year old pampered athletes might do. Let's just hope they mature. I just hope they have dark and violent hearts on the field.
 

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If nothing else you have to look at this draft and think the run defense will be much improved.

Yeah, b/c 3rd and 4th round picks are like the foundation of any good DL.
I don't agree. Easy A draft if LVE isnt always hurt. Nobody can predict injuries. You get 4 or 5 guys out of a draft that are good solid players thats a good draft

I'm looking at the draft and don't see 4 or 5 good solid players. Connor Williams is a bust. He's consistently among the lowest rated G's in the league. Schultz was the leagues 38th ranked TE....... Armstrong sucks......... LVE was good for a year but he had health concerns. We gambled and lost. Gallup was the only win here. This was a C draft easy.
 

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I think we did well this year, considering how much we have to overcome defensively. Getting past what we paid Dak didn't help our cause in FA but things should improve enough this year to encourage many of us to look for better things to come. I'm not likely to be overly optimistic about us being a promising playoff contender but pleasant surprises aren't out of the question. Always hope for the best and deal with the worst. ;)
 
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Yeah, b/c 3rd and 4th round picks are like the foundation of any good DL.

Usually that's not where you are looking for your cornerstones on DL, no. And I'm not saying any of those picks are foundational, build your defense around them types of guys. However, this was a horrible draft for DL and after Barmore it was a pretty wide open field, and he didn't even go until the second, so that just shows how bad it was. Like I mentioned earlier, I would have preferred McNeil over any of the linemen we ended up with as far as a run stopper.

What I mean when I say much improved is this: We set the bar really freakin low. I think the additions of Parsons, Cox, OO and Bohanna can only make it a lot better than they were last year.
 
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I had draft ratings, not just because there is no way to tell how good any of these players will be in the NFL. We have seen the majority of QBs taken in round 1 fail, for example.

I think some analysts look at the players and judge how good they are, not where they were taken or who else was available at the time. This is why I think the Cowboys did a good job in this draft. In almost every round there were players taken just before the Cowboys that maybe the Cowboys would have taken, and maybe they would have been better than what they wound up taking. But when it was their turn, I think they only made one major mistake and that was Nahshon Wright. He was probably going to be around in the 6th round to be honest. I might also fault the cowboys for not being more aggressive. Las Vegas, for example, moved up in front of Dallas to grab Moehrig thinking Dallas would taken him. I have no idea if Dallas would have, I think not, but Las Vegas wanted to make sure they got him. Smart, aggressive move. I thought the Cowboys should have moved up in the 3rd round or into the 2nd if they had a target they wanted badly.

Otherwise, the Cowboys got some good value picks. I like what they did, but was disappointed some of the players I wanted were taken before Dallas. I gave their draft a B because of the two issues I noted above, but I don't a serious mistake.

An example of a serious mistake, IMO, is Denver passing up a QB to take Patrick Surtain when they had just signed two free agent CBs, resigned safeties Justin Simmons and Kareen Jackson . Normally I believe in BPA when you have patched your major holes in free agency, but not in the case of QBs. Franchise QBs are everything and passing on Justin Fields and Mac Jones because they have Drew Lock and Teddy Bridgewater is a major draft mistake they could regret for a long time.
 

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Agreed. From what I've read of the character concerns, they seemed to be one off instances and not part of a larger pattern of behavior, but I could be wrong.
Glad I put that last part about possibly being wrong in there...Just read about Ball having like a dozen DV encounters so yeah, except that guy.
 

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And they don't mean diddly-poo until 2-3 years down the road. I've seen everything ranging from A's to C's on this draft. That's a pretty big spread.

There's a lot to be optimistic about with this draft. There's also plenty of room for skepticism/rage induced hissy fits. Neither of which will be validated for at least a couple of years.

I personally loved the way the Parsons pick played out with us being able to pick up an extra 3rd and still get the player we wanted, blocking NY from getting Smith, and sending Smith to a team with a lesser QB talent where I don't think he'll be as much of a factor as he would have been in NY with Golladay playing on the other side. This was a shrewd move by our FO on all of those merits.

The 3rd round was a bit of a head scratcher with Golston and Wright and probably where the team gets a lot of the aforementioned skepticism/rage induced hissy fits. However, these are guys that could surprise and change the perspective of the draft in a couple years, or they could suck and be gone by the end of training camp. OO was a nice get but I preferred McNeill who I feel was more of what we needed in a run stopper, unfortunately so did the Lions...c'est la vie.

Getting Cox in the 4th was a home run and I look forward to seeing what he and Parsons make this defense look like in a couple years.

For the late round guys, I'm excited to see what Mukuamu can do. This team has needed a ball hawk in the secondary since forever ago and the kid looks to be just that. I'll let you experts debate on whether he has the skills to succeed. Bohanna looks like the fatty we've needed to plug up the middle in the run game. Hopefully he will be our version of Snacks Harrison.

Overall, I give it a solid B+

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You don't post much, but you should!
Excellent write up and appreciated!
 
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